No Mac fanboys, just users passing on their experiences and reasons as to why they prefer macs, and some defensive replies from the Windows fanboys.
BTW, the Macs come with the option of wireless keyboard and mouse for a little over £30.
@Redcloud - if you purchased it from apple remember to do their uptodate program and get the new OS for £8 (could never see M$ doing that )
I can't help but chuckle at this thread though! seems like 'cyclone' 'fabs' and 'Raymond Lin' are as most people do stating that for them Apple/OS X/Apple hardware is working great for them and their needs however there is always one who then thinks they are being Apple fan boys and thinks he must defend Windows/generic PC's to the hilt!
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No, Microsoft don't charge for what amounts to little more than a service pack
And there are less cables ! and arguably uses less power too compared to a PC.
nor do apple, it is a new version of their OS but keep on trying....
I have an 24 inch iMac and really don't like it, there are several reasons but mainly this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38497820@N07/sets/72157620805817408/ - It's like using an old CRT screen all over again
Trev
I am in the IT industry and have quite a technical background. I had been a PC user since 1992.
My first PC (and I mean PC as we know it now... so not including zx spectrums etc) ran at 33Mhz, had 1Mb of RAM and NO hardisk at all... it was cutting edge.
I was a BIG fan of everything PC and loved Windows from the beginning, right up until XP which was the best O/S that Microsoft had ever produced...
Now that you know where I'm coming from.... About 18 months ago I bought an iMac (and then subsequently a MacBook Pro) and I can tell you that I am completely converted. MAC OS X makes anything Microsoft have produced look like a Fisherprice Toy. The OS is so slick it's unreal and the hardware is just beautiful.
Yes, the hardware is more expensive but the software is cheaper (Aperture 2 is just £126!) and that means that the whole package is comparably priced (if you are now thinking 'I don't pay for software' then shame on you!!)
I know there are plenty of folk that think they have reason to believe that PCs/Windows are superior to MAC hardware/software but they are.... well... wrong!!!
Congratulations on your new beast OP.... you won't regret it!!
P.S You NEED Aperture 2!!
Congratulations on missing the point
To be fair though, how many people have exclusively used MacOS for the last 10 years and then completely changed ship to Windows?
I know there are plenty of folk that think they have reason to believe that PCs/Windows are superior to MAC hardware/software but they are.... well... wrong!!!
I'd imagine not many, people usually need a reason to change.
To be fair though, how many people have exclusively used MacOS for the last 10 years and then completely changed ship to Windows?
Everyone is used to Windows anyway - they use it at work, school, public libraries etc.
It's never going to be new to anyone in the same way MacOS so you never will hear the same sort of praise. I like MacOS but not nearly enough to pay the premium the whole set up commands as ultimately, it doesn't do anything special that a PC running Windows can't do really.
One thing that I do find mildly ironic though is the way so many Mac users seem to run Windows via dual boot or virtualization etc. You don't see many Windows users booting up MacOS in VMWare though
I'd imagine not many, people usually need a reason to change.
who said anything was superior?
mac = intel based
PC = intel based
OSX = operating system
windows = operating system
personally i use both, i can see merits in both but windows 7 now presses all the right buttons for me in an IT support environment.. i just like to debug peoples daft comments. try supporting an entire floor of designers/production and see if you think OSX is better or worse.
like better networking and active directory integration and better file locking?
I know that, i know they both work, and I know they both do the same thing, there is nothing one does, and the others can't do. It is how they do it, and the way its done which is the attraction to Macs.
Gates is that you???
actually yes it is..
lol the amount of people see my surname in this industry and make a "any relation to bill" joke is commical in itself..
Oh is your surname really Gates?? Hahaha that IS funny. EDIT - I see that now in your sig, didn't notice before!
Also, as if to demonstrate my point... My work laptop has just hung while trying to open Outlook. :thumbsdown:
Glad you are liking the new iMac, I recently upgraded my PowerMac to a new 24" iMac.
I can't help but chuckle at this thread though! seems like 'cyclone' 'fabs' and 'Raymond Lin' are as most people do stating that for them Apple/OS X/Apple hardware is working great for them and their needs however there is always one who then thinks they are being Apple fan boys and thinks he must defend Windows/generic PC's to the hilt!
I have nothing against windows - I use it at work every day but I went with Apple at home many years ago just due to the sure ease of it. OS X is a lot more user friendly than any version of Windows I have ever used and yes a little more snappy at doing things.
It just seems that when ever someone puts across a personal opinion they are then told how wrong they are and they are doing things wrong! I can honestly say if someone told me windows is better for them I wouldn't start telling them they are wrong and need to do things differently and they are this and that for making a decision to get windows!
little rant over i think!
@Redcloud - if you purchased it from apple remember to do their uptodate program and get the new OS for £8 (could never see M$ doing that )
Exactly, I am not an Apple Fanboy, I am just expressing my current/limited user experience with Apple products.
Things i like/noticed:-
1 - Press the power button, it sleeps
You can do that with a windows machine too, my keyboard has a sleep button, press it and the machine goes to sleep, move the mouse or press any button and the machine wakes back up again. (I assume macs do this too).
2 - it wakes up and reconnects all network and emails and msn in 15 seconds after sleep
So does my Vista install, it's brilliant to get up in the morning, move the mouse, then see your emails in front of you within 5-10 seconds.
3 - Its just so quiet
So's mine
4 - The screen is brilliant (yes i know you can get monitors like that)
5 - Time Machine is so clever
I have to admit time machine is pretty nice (although expensive), and better than a lot of the competitor, it also works on windows machines.
6 - The Finder, awesome, its like itunes's coverart for everything, it even previews videos !
That not like WMP that automatically gets your album and song info when you import stuff into it's library, both mp3's and CD's?
7 - oh....the apple remote (little white stick of gum thing), no idea how that works, it even works when i am behind the monitor !
Bluetooth probably?
8 - The Remote app on the iPhone/Touch, never could get that to sync on the PC, worked first time on the iMac.....weird
The remote app on my WM phone does that with my windows machine too, probably something to do with each manufacturer working under the hood of both sets of OS's (commputer and phone) to get them to just work.. Remote control and remote desktop on your phone is brilliant.
9 - The Mighty Mouse is not so mighty
Don't they do a big and small one? Alternatively any wireless mouse should work with it?
10 - The built in wireless, works seemless, I don't even notice i am on wifi ! Last time in tried installing an wifi card into a PC, it took ages !
Same with my vista install, but isn't it the same as point 2? However just to point out, you are comparing a pre built machine with preinstalled drivers to a bit of hardware installed by yourself. If the wifi doesn't just work on a prebuilt machine I would take it back and complain.
Their keyboards are indestructable !
http://img14.imageshack.us/i/img0162oj.jpg/
Yes, i know you can do these with a PC too, but I tried the sleep thing with my laptop, it just dies...
I'd imagine not many, people usually need a reason to change.
6 - The Finder, awesome, its like itunes's coverart for everything, it even previews videos !
That not like WMP that automatically gets your album and song info when you import stuff into it's library, both mp3's and CD's?
Macs generally do them differently AND better.
No, that's not what he's talking about. What he is referring to is the ability to view your pictures, documents, spreadsheets, PDFs etc in CoverFlow (like iTunes displays album art). It also has a feature called Quicklook which lets you open up any doc in a preview window, instantly, by pressing the space bar. It is incredibly useful when you are trying to find a particular file and you aren't sure what it's called or if you just need to open it for viewing and not to edit.
BTW... I've had my iMac for 18 months and I love as much as the day I bought it and that was after having no interest in Macs at all. I would be very interested to get your opinion again a few months after you've bought a MacBook. Your statement about not bringing anything different or better is true but all the things that computers do, Macs generally do them differently AND better.
Ah ok, so it's just the standard Folder viewer with a coolirisesque layer on top when wanted? Looks quite nice, however I can't see the coverflow being used much unless you want to impress your friends or view web pages offline.
And as Neil_g mentioned, different, yes, better? Matter of opinion. (just to point out Mac has a less than 10% market share, Windows >85%, if it really was that much better I would expect that ratio to be very different. Not that i'm saying Windows is better)
Yes that it odd isn't it. Interestingly (for me at least), most of the people (friends and colleagues ) that I have demo'd my Macbook or iMac to have gone on to buy them (same with the iPhone actually but thats a different topic!).
Yes that it odd isn't it. Interestingly (for me at least), most of the people (friends and colleagues ) that I have demo'd my Macbook or iMac to have gone on to buy them (same with the iPhone actually but thats a different topic!).