Neewer with Godox triggers

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I saw a Neewer ad the other day where it appeared that someone was using a Godox X trigger to control a new Neewer flash (basically a V1 ripoff).

I’ve just been to look at the flash on Amazon, and there it is, with Godox compatibility mentioned in the sub head , and the V1 clone is £180 vs £300 for the Godox (64Ws).


Is this the beginning of Neewer doing to Godox, what Godox did to the rest of the market?

Has anyone got one? Does it do what it says on the tin?
 
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Yeah it looks like Godox have successfully started a standard for flash control. There's another outfit called Geekoto https://shop.geekoto.com/products/geekoto-gt200 that also offer Godox X compatibility, and it looks like you can buy them in the UK now. I like Geekoto as they make an AD200 clone (flat sided for stacking)

The Neewer Q4/Q6 is interesting :)
 
Phil V said:
I saw a Neewer ad the other day where it appeared that someone was using a Godox X trigger to control a new Neewer flash (basically a V1 ripoff).

I’ve just been to look at the flash on Amazon, and there it is, with Godox compatibility mentioned in the sub head , and the V1 clone is £180 vs £300 for the Godox (64Ws).


Is this the beginning of Neewer doing to Godox, what Godox did to the rest of the market?

Has anyone got one? Does it do what it says on the tin?
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Worth pointing out maybe that Godox is just a Profoto rip off.

Neewer has been selling rebadged Godox kit for as long as I can remember. I had a Neewer flash that worked with their triggers about 7/8 years ago.

They no longer seem to just rebadge Godox but assume they have some sort of agreement with them still as they have quite a few that work within the Godox system.
 
I know nothing about this, but I do have a pretty good understanding of how the manufacturing system works in China.

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Worth pointing out maybe that Godox is just a Profoto rip off.
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Not so. Godox, and many other manufacturers closely copy all products that are both expensive and popular. Profoto and others, especially Aputure, are obvious targets because of their very high prices.
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Neewer has been selling rebadged Godox kit for as long as I can remember. I had a Neewer flash that worked with their triggers about 7/8 years ago.
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They've been re-badging everything for as long as I can remember. But, they now also have their own manufacturing plant, turning out a wide range of stuff, some of which seems to be pretty good.
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They no longer seem to just rebadge Godox but assume they have some sort of agreement with them still as they have quite a few that work within the Godox system.
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I don't know, but Neewer are a very large and successful business, I'm sure that they have the engineering capability to produce identical or near-identical products, and they have the financial clout to get away with it, in a country that pays little attention to intellectual property rights.

Phil V said:
I saw a Neewer ad the other day where it appeared that someone was using a Godox X trigger to control a new Neewer flash (basically a V1 ripoff).

I’ve just been to look at the flash on Amazon, and there it is, with Godox compatibility mentioned in the sub head , and the V1 clone is £180 vs £300 for the Godox (64Ws).


Is this the beginning of Neewer doing to Godox, what Godox did to the rest of the market?

Has anyone got one? Does it do what it says on the tin?
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And there you go . . .

Yongnuou started the copy and undercut process with their flashguns and triggers, they were so incredibly successful at it that they completely dominated the market, to the point where they ran out of customers:)

Then Godox adopted a similar business model, they are hugely successful, a very large business that has diversified into non-photographic products too, with good reason, and their prices keep going up and up, continually. How can what is, after all, just an ordinary flashgun, possibly be worth £300? There's nothing special about it, they may make strange marketing claims about the round head producing a beautiful soft light, but it's just an ordinary flashgun, so we shouldn't be surprised if other manufacturers see and grasp the opportunity to undercut them.
 
Garry Edwards said:
How can what is, after all, just an ordinary flashgun, possibly be worth £300? There's nothing special about it, they may make strange marketing claims about the round head producing a beautiful soft light, but it's just an ordinary flashgun, so we shouldn't be surprised if other manufacturers see and grasp the opportunity to undercut them.
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Profoto did the roundhead flash first. The current equivalent of the Godox V100 at £300 costs £875.
 
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Profoto did the roundhead flash first. The current equivalent of the Godox V100 at £300 costs £875.
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And the roundhead speedlight thing is (almost?) entirely marketing BS, no matter the price...
 
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I know virtually nothing about flashguns because I have very little use for them.

I have a tiny one, very low-powered, which I use specifically for putting inside or hiding behind things, invaluable for that. I got it for a specific job, when I had to photograph a load of crash helmets, perfect for that because it not only lights the interior, it also prevents specular reflections on the visor. I also have a Nikon SB-700, which I bought (2nd-hand of course) years before Yongnuo came along. Flashguns are a very poor substitute for studio flash, when studio flash is an option, although they are also invaluable for those odd little jobs mentioned above.

Then, a few years ago, I was asked to carry out product training for Lencarta staff, which involved learning about the Godox gear – Godox because that’s pretty much all that the public buys, regardless of price, quality or choice.

I’d assumed that there must be something special about the V1 because of its price, but there wasn’t, the special qualities were just BS.

I found that the Godox triggers were clever, efficient and reliable, as long as I had time to photograph the instructions on my smartphone, enlarge them to the point where the type was big enough to actually read, and to remember those instructions, and then try to work out how to make them actually work with the various flashes, which also had very complicated menus – OK I guess for press and wedding photographers, who use them all the time, but far too fiddly for people who may want to use them occasionally . . .

Compare any of these new hi-tech flashes with my trusty SB-700, which not only just works as expected but also doesn’t overheat at the drop of a hat, and it’s a no-contest.

The main problem, as I see it, is that the manufacturers make these things far too complicated, just so that they can have an incredibly long list of bullet-point features (which pretend to be actual benefits) that very few of us will even understand, let alone use – and those features allow them to charge very high prices for what is, in effect, a simple and cheap-to-produce tool that shouldn’t need an instruction book to use.
 
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