Nikon 17-55mm f/2.8 DX vs Nikon 24-70 FX

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I know one is for crop and one for full frame. Thats ok because I have a D300 back. Im going to get one if these lenses so which one is better?

I thinking maybe 17-55 on D300 and keep my Sigma 50mm f/1.4 on my D700. Ill probably get a long prime as backup but its more important that I make good use of my sigma prime and it will be used mainly so thats why im thinking keep it on my D700, remember I shoot 80% of my work with it.I love it (when it finally gets back to me).
 
would be inclined to say 17-55 as 24mm maybe to wide for you on a crop body

i found my 24-60 or 24-70 sigma not wide enough for certain shots
 
whitey said:
would be inclined to say 17-55 as 24mm maybe to wide for you on a crop body

i found my 24-60 or 24-70 sigma not wide enough for certain shots
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Or I could have the 24-70 on the d700 and 50 on the D300 but if the image quality is basically the same I think id rather do it the other way round, also the 17-55 is cheaper and a bit smaller.
 
I recently changed from Canon to Nikon, so I can't really talk about IQ for the lenses you mentioned but what I can discuss is focal lengths.

I shot the 24-70L on a 50D body, for weddings etc and I was always struggling at the wide end. I now have a D300 with a 17-55 and I find it gives me a lot more freedom - I don't miss the 55-70 range.

If your just looking for a lens to use on a crop body I'd say the 17-55 would be great :thumbs:
 
hyakuhei said:
I recently changed from Canon to Nikon, so I can't really talk about IQ for the lenses you mentioned but what I can discuss is focal lengths.

I shot the 24-70L on a 50D body, for weddings etc and I was always struggling at the wide end. I now have a D300 with a 17-55 and I find it gives me a lot more freedom - I don't miss the 55-70 range.

If your just looking for a lens to use on a crop body I'd say the 17-55 would be great :thumbs:
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Yeah im pretty sure 17mm on crop will be wide enough. I know it might not be for everything but im so used to using a 50mm for everything im sure ill be fine. Ill get a few more replies and then I think ill ask for one in the wanted section :)
 
I would be inclined (assuming you have the money) to go for the 24-70. Its great on my d300 as well as tde d700 and that way you've a lens you can easily swap between the two cameras and you're future proofing you're lens set up. The 17-55 is a great lens, but unless you're always going tyo keep a DX camera then its a bit limiting

Hugh
 
boyfalldown said:
I would be inclined (assuming you have the money) to go for the 24-70. Its great on my d300 as well as tde d700 and that way you've a lens you can easily swap between the two cameras and you're future proofing you're lens set up. The 17-55 is a great lens, but unless you're always going tyo keep a DX camera then its a bit limiting

Hugh
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To be honest even after getting my D700 ive always regretted selling my D300 and I cant see myself selling it for a couple of years.
 
i would go 24-70, since if the d300 fails, the 17-55 will be useless to you. for the moments when you need more wideangle, you can swap it onto the d700
 
fletch5 said:
i would go 24-70, since if the d300 fails, the 17-55 will be useless to you. for the moments when you need more wideangle, you can swap it onto the d700
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I have the 28mm AI-S if it fails which may not be ideal but I did fine with that and the 50 at the lasdt wedding. Id also much rahter have the 50 on the D700. What I really want to know if actually how the lenses compare with each other.
 
fletch5 said:
i would go 24-70, since if the d300 fails, the 17-55 will be useless to you. for the moments when you need more wideangle, you can swap it onto the d700
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The 17-55 will work fine on the D700, however at 5MP in crop mode.
 
Luke it may be worth looking out for a used 35-70 f2.8 for the D700, around £250 great value for money.
 
lukewoodford said:
I have the 28mm AI-S if it fails which may not be ideal but I did fine with that and the 50 at the lasdt wedding. Id also much rahter have the 50 on the D700. What I really want to know if actually how the lenses compare with each other.
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Hi Luke,

Sorry - I don't have the 17-55 anymore to shoot an identical shot for you, which makes it a little difficult, both are great lens though.

Both shot are straight out of camera, no processing

1st D700 with 24-70


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2nd 17-55 d300

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If you pm me an email address I'll send you RAW files to compare properly

Cheers

Hugh
 
I'd have thought as the D700 is your main camera, the 24-70 would have made more sense.
 
sdb123 said:
I'd have thought as the D700 is your main camera, the 24-70 would have made more sense.
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No because I plan on shooting with the 50mm as usual and that would be best on my D700, slightly long on D300. I shoot nearly everything with my 50mm.

One thing though I have just realised is if I have the zoom on the D300, if f/2.8 is the max apeture I am going to have to up the iso and the D300 doesn't handle it as well.
 
lukewoodford said:
No because I plan on shooting with the 50mm as usual and that would be best on my D700, slightly long on D300. I shoot nearly everything with my 50mm.

One thing though I have just realised is if I have the zoom on the D300, if f/2.8 is the max apeture I am going to have to up the iso and the D300 doesn't handle it as well.
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Hi Luke,

I've used this lens on a D300 at iso800 without noise issues and produced shots good enough for the album from it - I wouldn't worry about iso issues

Cheers

Hugh
 
boyfalldown said:
Hi Luke,

I've used this lens on a D300 at iso800 without noise issues and produced shots good enough for the album from it - I wouldn't worry about iso issues

Cheers

Hugh
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If used at weddings I may have to push it up more than that,anyway im not going to worry to much about that. Im sure people coped fine before the D3 and D700.
 
lukewoodford said:
No because I plan on shooting with the 50mm as usual and that would be best on my D700, slightly long on D300. I shoot nearly everything with my 50mm.

One thing though I have just realised is if I have the zoom on the D300, if f/2.8 is the max apeture I am going to have to up the iso and the D300 doesn't handle it as well.
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Fair enough. If it were me I wouldn't think twice about using a 24-70mm on my D700 with the 50mm used for lower light shots. :p
 
Just to add, my set up is now a 24-70 on my D3 with a Sigma 50-150 f:2.8 on my D300. The 24-70 really is a cracker and the 50-150 isn't too bulky to hang off your shoulder while being an ideal DX focal length to compliment the 24-70 on an FX body.
 
NorthernNikon said:
Just to add, my set up is now a 24-70 on my D3 with a Sigma 50-150 f:2.8 on my D300. The 24-70 really is a cracker and the 50-150 isn't too bulky to hang off your shoulder while being an ideal DX focal length to compliment the 24-70 on an FX body.
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Yeah that sounds like a good set up but I just love my 50mm so much. If it wasn't so sharp wide open id be doing a diffrent set up for sure.
 
lukewoodford said:
Of course but having two cameras that I love I want to utilise them both. I don't like changing lenses unless I have to.
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just to throw a spanner in the works - rather than a 50mm and a similar ranged zoom, wouldn't you be better off with another prime in a range - say 85 or 105. Sorry stirring now

Hugh
 
boyfalldown said:
just to throw a spanner in the works - rather than a 50mm and a similar ranged zoom, wouldn't you be better off with another prime in a range - say 85 or 105. Sorry stirring now

Hugh
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in a perfext world I would love a 24mm f/1.4 on the D700 and a longer prime on D300.
 
lukewoodford said:
in a perfext world I would love a 24mm f/1.4 on the D700 and a longer prime on D300.
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it would be good - but you could get a sigma 24 1.8 and a nikkor 85 1.4 for the same as a new 17-55 f2.8

do you mind me asking why you'd put the 24 on the d700. To me its too wide for portrait shots, which is 75% of (my) wedding work.

Cheers

Hugh
 
boyfalldown said:
it would be good - but you could get a sigma 24 1.8 and a nikkor 85 1.4 for the same as a new 17-55 f2.8

do you mind me asking why you'd put the 24 on the d700. To me its too wide for portrait shots, which is 75% of (my) wedding work.

Cheers

Hugh
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As the D700 is full frame I suppose it would make sense to put the wideangle on that body.
 
lukewoodford said:
As the D700 is full frame I suppose it would make sense to put the wideangle on that body.
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to a point, but to me there are other consideration. I like to use my 'best' camera the most, and some of the qualities of the d700 seem like a shame to use just for wide angle shots.

Cheers

Hugh
 
I use a 24-70 and 50/1.4 most of the time at weddings, and the 24-70 get much more work. For that reason alone I'd have the 24-70 on your D700.
 
So the 24-70 gives you more flexibility. Stick that on the D700 as your main body/lens combination and use the 50 when it's needed. You can change a lens in 10 seconds.
 
lukewoodford said:
the more you chagme lenses the more you miss shots.
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That depends entirely on what you're shooting. If you're in a fast moving environment I'd say that you'd be missing loads of shots by shooting at f:1.4 and the focus being slightly out. If you're that concerned about not missing shots then shooting for a deeper depth of field is going to help you more than anything, in which case the 24-70 on your D700 would be better.
 
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