Nikon 24-120/f4 - good buy?

FFS you lot!
This is the 3rd and final warning!
 
If by micro-contrast you mean MTF levels at high resolution, that's not what produces 'pop'. That is high contrast at lower resolution levels around 10-15 lpmm rather than at 30-50 lpmm that you can't even see without pixel peeping. However, if you have high micro-contrast then it's a fair bet that you'll also have high contrast at all resolution levels.



I'm not one for MTF charts. The Zeiss look better, that's good enough for me.

It's not really anything to do with MTF charts, but very much to do with MTF theory which is fundamental to understanding lens sharpness. It's also the driver behind why larger formats always perform better than smaller sensors, given a similar pixel count - even with the same lens.

What an image looks like is good enough for me too, but it does sound like the 'pop' you're describing is not micro-contrast, but contrast levels at the other end of the resolution scale.
 
My 24-120 f4 was the only lens i took to Venice recently and attached to the D700 performed admirably IMO....it was certainly wide enough at 24 to capture everything i wanted it to in the tight back streets and was long enough at 120 when it was needed ....for me a great lens with few compromises :thumbs:

The only issue i have is one of lens creep when dangling from the BR R7...any one else having the same issue?
 
It's not really anything to do with MTF charts, but very much to do with MTF theory which is fundamental to understanding lens sharpness. It's also the driver behind why larger formats always perform better than smaller sensors, given a similar pixel count - even with the same lens.

What an image looks like is good enough for me too, but it does sound like the 'pop' you're describing is not micro-contrast, but contrast levels at the other end of the resolution scale.

The Zeiss has the better ability to differentiate between smaller details of similar tonal value, so it would be the micro contrast. It's more than just a high global contrast.
 
My 24-120 f4 was the only lens i took to Venice recently and attached to the D700 performed admirably IMO....it was certainly wide enough at 24 to capture everything i wanted it to in the tight back streets and was long enough at 120 when it was needed ....for me a great lens with few compromises :thumbs:

The only issue i have is one of lens creep when dangling from the BR R7...any one else having the same issue?

Yep I have had with one or two Nikon lens,on my 28-300mm their a lock on it at the 28mm end,so when carrying no creep,it's a shame they didn't put it on the 24-120mm.

:)
 
When I left my comments earlier I genuinely hoped it would be of use and (ideally) stop the squabbling. Once again I'm left wondering if genuinely useful posts that directly answer the question are totally over looked by the majority of TP members. Is there any chance of a TP for adults forum?
 
Eventually took the plunge and treated myself to this lens. Took it on the Scott Kelby Photowalk in Belfast yesterday with both inside and outside subjects. Loved the focal length and got away with quite a few slow shutter speeds indoors so the VR did its job well. Glad I went ahead but as some say I realise I have duplicated part of the focal range of the 24-70. Thanks for all the comments. merv:)
 
ryanyboy said:
...Once again I'm left wondering if genuinely useful posts that directly answer the question are totally over looked by the majority of TP members....

Not at all, I'm pondering a D700 + 24-120 combo at the moment and your (and others' in this thread) post was very helpful indeed and much appreciated.
 
Not at all, I'm pondering a D700 + 24-120 combo at the moment and your (and others' in this thread) post was very helpful indeed and much appreciated.

Without having owned it but having looked at alot of opinions and reviews with reguards to a potential mid range zoom for a D800 one of the main things I notice is that the camera involved seems to play a big factor.

The D3X/D800 seems to find fault with the boarders at the wide end and the the frame as a whole at the long end that the D700 doesnt.
 
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