Nikon 70-200 VRII useability question

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I use the 80-200 f/2.8 non VR for sports (NOT the push pull) which is fine as I am shooting at 1/400th in the main. I understand the VRII is a little quicker to focus and allows closer focus but image quality is very similar. For non sports use at slower shutter speeds my current 80-200 is not as useable due to camera shake so I am thinking of getting the VRII which will allow me to use for weddings which is my question. I have some nice primes but feel the zoom will give a little more flexibility. What sort of hand held shutter speeds can you realistically use with it and for those that do use at weddings how useable do you find it?
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I havnt directly used that lens but I've seen many images shot at 1/60 at 200mm quite easily so should get you a lot slower than 1/400th
 
I can hand-hold mine down to 1/30th and get crisp images but don't forget that your minimum acceptable shutter speed is going to have a lot to do with your grip and technique as well as the lens. As a comparison my minimum with the VR I was about 1/60th - so for *me* about a 1 stop improvement.

I have used it for a couple of seasons of weddings, and it is a superb lens if your style includes a longer zoom. There is a contrast and sharpness improvement over the VRI and I suspect a significant improvement over the 80-200. In fact I switched to using the 70-200 for smaller groups, and for the B&G alone from my 24-70 because of the quality and reliability for sharp images across the frame as well as the look.

You are always going to hit the limit of human movement so I rarely used my 70-200 down at minimum hand-hold because whilst I can be still the subjects rarely were.

You also get the benefit in the VRII from the VRI (although not the 80-200) of no vignette due to the VRII design being refined to accommodate an FX chip rather than the DX chip which was the only digital option when the VRI was designed. Not necessarily an issue for weddings and portraits but I'd rather add my vignette in post than have it imposed on me.

I typically used the 70-200 at weddings for;

- individual portraits
- back of the church
- close ups during the ceremony
- B&G alone
- smaller formal groups
- speeches

I didn't use it for bridal prep as I was rarely in a room big enough - usually on an 85mm prime for my tighter shots. On the other body it is complemented by a 24-70mm, a 50mm for details shot at f1.4, or very occasionally a 14-24.
 
I can hand-hold mine down to 1/30th and get crisp images but don't forget that your minimum acceptable shutter speed is going to have a lot to do with your grip and technique as well as the lens. As a comparison my minimum with the VR I was about 1/60th - so for *me* about a 1 stop improvement.

I have used it for a couple of seasons of weddings, and it is a superb lens if your style includes a longer zoom. There is a contrast and sharpness improvement over the VRI and I suspect a significant improvement over the 80-200. In fact I switched to using the 70-200 for smaller groups, and for the B&G alone from my 24-70 because of the quality and reliability for sharp images across the frame as well as the look.

You are always going to hit the limit of human movement so I rarely used my 70-200 down at minimum hand-hold because whilst I can be still the subjects rarely were.

You also get the benefit in the VRII from the VRI (although not the 80-200) of no vignette due to the VRII design being refined to accommodate an FX chip rather than the DX chip which was the only digital option when the VRI was designed. Not necessarily an issue for weddings and portraits but I'd rather add my vignette in post than have it imposed on me.

I typically used the 70-200 at weddings for;

- individual portraits
- back of the church
- close ups during the ceremony
- B&G alone
- smaller formal groups
- speeches

I didn't use it for bridal prep as I was rarely in a room big enough - usually on an 85mm prime for my tighter shots. On the other body it is complemented by a 24-70mm, a 50mm for details shot at f1.4, or very occasionally a 14-24.

Thanks for that info - pretty much backs up what I was hoping for. Do you use the 50mm f/1.4 for any groups and if you do how does the image quality compare to the VRII?
 
Thanks for that info - pretty much backs up what I was hoping for. Do you use the 50mm f/1.4 for any groups and if you do how does the image quality compare to the VRII?

The only time I used the 50mm f1.4 for groups was when I dropped a body with the 24-70 attached and broke them. Whilst I had another two bodies my backup in the 24-70 range was the 50mm and so I shot groups with that. It was back in 2010 and I hadn't switched to shooting groups with the 70-200 at that point.

There is nothing wrong with it at all. Personally I prefer the look of the 70-200mm but for me shooting groups with the prime was a pain in the ass as I am used to shooting them with a zoom and making fine adjustments in framing with the lens and not my feet. I find it was simpler than moving the observing crowd every time I wanted a different viewpoint.

I use the 50mm f1.4 for my newborn work all the time and it is a lovely little sharp lens.
 
Check out Neilnv's review:

http://neilvn.com/tangents/2010/02/07/nikon-70-200-vr2/

The top photo - 1/6th @ 200mm - should tell you all you need to know.

I also use one for weddings and it is a big improvement on the 80-200 in every way. The sharpness and contrast are better, and you actually get a sharp 2.8 at 200mm, no need to stop down. The VR is incredible, as seen on the photo linked to.
 
Haven't used it for weddings but my 70-200 VRll is the sharpest lens in my bag for handheld and I am constantly amazed how it just 'nails it' even in what I would consider some instances of poor holding by me.
 
Thanks for the responses, prob sell my 80-200 when the VRII arrives to help fund the purchase.
 
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