Nikon D5100 specs found.... Release april

There's no actual specs there, just speculation
 
squishy said:
There's no actual specs there, just speculation
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He never said what specs meant :lol: specsulation? :D

I agree though, nothing concrete, it seems to be as much of what the author wants to see.
 
ChrisMClark said:
He never said what specs meant :lol: specsulation? :D

I agree though, nothing concrete, it seems to be as much of what the author wants to see.
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I think out local optician is called specsulation :thinking: :lol:
 
Well, judging from the specsulation this is hardly the D90 replacement that it has been touted as. No focus motor (so limited to AF-S lenses for autofocus) and a pentamirror - not the wonderful pentaprism of the D90 - and what's happened to that beautifil 920,000 dot LCD screen?
 
redhed17 said:
Isn't the D7000 the D90 replacement? :shrug:
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That's certainly what I thought when the D7000 was announced, but if it is then Nikon have broken with (a long standing) tradition and kept the superceded body in production after the launch of its replacement.

My comment about the D5100 replacing the D90 was really based on comments in other threads both on TP and elsewhere. Time will tell, eh :shrug:
 
I received the 'Grays of Westminster Gazette' over the weekend, and they had review of the D7000. They say that the D7000 is a model to occupy a new place just below the D300S in the Nikon range. I assume that they should know such things seeing as they have close links with Nikon. Seems a bit odd to be fracturing their range a bit more. :shrug:
 
I guess they are trying to match Canon's lineup? Canon also has 4 DX models.

And I think what indicated that trend was the D5000 which was trying to be a 500D but didn't quite make it cause then it would have been far too close to the D90.

Cause if you think about it between the D3100 and the D7000 there was a world of difference even much more so o the D40 / D90 days when the D90 was simply too far ahead.

Having said that they could have easily pushed the D3xxx up a fair bit but then they'd have trouble competing with the very low end models.
 
DSLR said:
http://nikonrumors.com/
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Nikon aren't entirely confusing their line up - this is clearly the "consumer video" focused DSLR to compete with Canon 60D (the twisty screen is the give away), whereas the D7000 is more "consumer photo" orientated.

The model numbering will hopefully make sense by the end of the year, maybe they are going for everything as a 4-digit series, with the first digit to denote what level it is (since the 1,2,3,4-digit system had clearly run out of room to go in places!). Might mean the D300 sucessor (if there is one) will be a D8000 not a D400.... although with 3+ year release cycles they can ignore the FF model numbering for a long time though!
 
It is a bit disappointing that they are not considering the mirror-less/compact interchangeable lens market.

Might make the decision easier for me as I need something a bit more portable than even my D40 is.
 
Ohhh that looks very good!!

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hmmm

"Available from its 21 April UK release date, the Nikon D5100 price tag starts at £669.99 for the D5100 body only, jumping to £779.99 for the Nikon D5100 + 18-55mm VR kit."

I wonder if they will drop the price of the D90?
too be honest between the D5100 and D90 for mainly photos then I'd still stick to the D90. I'd only consider this if making movies was important.
 
Full specs now up at Nikon

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d5100/

No surprise that it's inherited the D7000's sensor, but it's still running with the 11 point multicam 1000 focus engine which is not bad, but looking a little long in the tooth these days.

The viewfinder is still a little affair (ca. 0.7 magnification), but I guess liveview is what the buyers of this camera are going to be interested in.

Actually looking at the specs the only real improvements appear to be the sensor, LCD, and newer exspeed processor (with yet more scene modes). No improvements on continuous shooting speed, max shutter speed still at 4000, flash synch speed still at 200, still no onboard commander mode. Although I don't think these will be the first thing that the target market of this camera will be looking at.

To be honest Nikon's current consumer range is making the pro range seem old on paper. Admittedly they have better built bodies with better placed controls, and in the case of the FX cameras more usable high ISO (D3x excluded, but that's a niche product). However, the retailers that I've talked to are selling virtually no D300s anymore meaning Nikon really has to do something with it's pro DX range soon
 
hmm that's quite pricey.. :( dammit, its got the ext. mic I've been wanting for sooo long!
 
Tempted...
This is the D7000/K-5 sensor, right? Very tempted as it fixes the noise issues (as much as you can at the moment on a crop body) and tiny low-res screen which bug me about the d5000 at the moment...

Are Nikon going to be making an official battery grip for this one?
 
Pretty underwhelming 'improvements' for a new camera really.

Same sensor as the Sony A580 (as well as D7000 and K5) but the rest of the specs don't really stack up against my A580.

I certainly won't be selling my Sony in a hurry to get this.
 
Don't think so. Sure I read that it doesn't.

Interesting about the D7000 being placed closer to the D300 than as a D90 rep. So when they rep the D90, will we be talking D6000?!
 
Fozzybear said:
No, I don't think it does.
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Seems like a trick missed, esp. with what is quite an expensive camera. I can understand it with the 3100 but if I had been nikon, I would have put it in the 5100. It just smacks of an artificial way of separating out the 'consumer' and 'prosumer' cameras.
 
Frobius said:
Don't think so. Sure I read that it doesn't.

Interesting about the D7000 being placed closer to the D300 than as a D90 rep. So when they rep the D90, will we be talking D6000?!
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I don't think there is going to be a straight D90 replacement as such. They have just gapped the distance between D3xxx and D3xx with two cameras instead of one.

The D5100 is a bit more consumer oriented while the D7000 is a bit more pro oriented.
 
Ah yeah I suppose that makes sense. But then when the D90 is discontinued, I suppose the D7000 will sort of have been it's rep all along!

Bring on the new Dxxx and Dx bodies I say!
 
Frobius said:
Oh and a 55-200 DX lens with pro build quality & optics! ;D
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The 55-200 is preeeeety sharp tbh!

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menthel said:
Seems like a trick missed, esp. with what is quite an expensive camera. I can understand it with the 3100 but if I had been nikon, I would have put it in the 5100. It just smacks of an artificial way of separating out the 'consumer' and 'prosumer' cameras.
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It's only expensive as that's the RRP, give it a month or so and the street price will drop into line with the current D5000 prices of about £500ish with the kit lens.

It was the same with the D7000 RRP is something like £1100 body only but the street price is about £900 now a few months after release.
 
Frobius said:
Ah yeah I suppose that makes sense. But then when the D90 is discontinued, I suppose the D7000 will sort of have been it's rep all along!

Bring on the new Dxxx and Dx bodies I say!
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Yes for most people the D7000 is the replacement of the D90 mainly because replacement normally means upgrade really and even the D5100 is a step back from the D90 in some areas.
 
maninsuitcase said:
It's only expensive as that's the RRP, give it a month or so and the street price will drop into line with the current D5000 prices of about £500ish with the kit lens.

It was the same with the D7000 RRP is something like £1100 body only but the street price is about £900 now a few months after release.
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But still a £500 camera that can't auto focus with the full range of nikon's lenses. If I were to be thinking of changing that would annoy me intensely as it does seem a purely artifical separation of their range.
 
menthel said:
But still a £500 camera that can't auto focus with the full range of nikon's lenses. If I were to be thinking of changing that would annoy me intensely as it does seem a purely artifical separation of their range.
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Owning both a D50 and a D40x, which have and haven't got the AF motor respectivly this isn't as big a deal as you'd think.

Looking at the current nikkor range there's 20 D lenses, most of these have a AF-S equivelent in the current range, and a fair few are older more specialised lenses eg (80-400, 300 f4) and people who buy these will probably already have a higher spec body with the motor to run them.

The only real lens (IMO) which is a problem is the 50mm 1.8D and that's only because it's so cheap compared to the alternative which is the 1.4G. The current alternative would probably be the 35 1.8G DX. While I am sure there will be a 1.8G sooner or later it will probably double the price.
 
maninsuitcase said:
Owning both a D50 and a D40x, which have and haven't got the AF motor respectivly this isn't as big a deal as you'd think.

Looking at the current nikkor range there's 20 D lenses, most of these have a AF-S equivelent in the current range, and a fair few are older more specialised lenses eg (80-400, 300 f4) and people who buy these will probably already have a higher spec body with the motor to run them.

The only real lens (IMO) which is a problem is the 50mm 1.8D and that's only because it's so cheap compared to the alternative which is the 1.4G. The current alternative would probably be the 35 1.8G DX. While I am sure there will be a 1.8G sooner or later it will probably double the price.
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I don't want to get into an arguement but a 35mm lens is not an alternative, the FOV will be very much different! However, I do understand what you say. Still, Nikon's refusal to put an AF motor in all of their cameras is a mystery to me. Then again I am not a mass producer of consumer electronics! :D
 
menthel said:
I don't want to get into an arguement but a 35mm lens is not an alternative, the FOV will be very much different! However, I do understand what you say. Still, Nikon's refusal to put an AF motor in all of their cameras is a mystery to me. Then again I am not a mass producer of consumer electronics! :D
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That's why it's a problem, there isn't really an alternative you either lose AF, or go for something like the 35mm which gives a wider FOV or the 1.4G which is about 3 times the price and so defeats the point of a cheap sharp lens.

edit; I would assume they aren't is to force the newbys to buy the newer AFS G lenses so they can retire the cheaper D lenses going forwards as there's less people who want them.
 
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maninsuitcase said:
That's why it's a problem, there isn't really an alternative you either lose AF, or go for something like the 35mm which gives a wider FOV or the 1.4G which is about 3 times the price and so defeats the point of a cheap sharp lens.

edit; I would assume they aren't is to force the newbys to buy the newer AFS G lenses so they can retire the cheaper D lenses going forwards as there's less people who want them.
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You may well be right!
 
Seems the spec is good, but the only real difference is the new sensor over the older D5000.

The other changes are largely cosmetic, meaning I will be keeping my D5000 for a while
 
It looks as if the D90 will not really be replaced just as the D50 was never really replaced by the D40, D90 production will just be discontinued. (If it hasn't been already). Your choices are to move up to the D7000 or down to the D5100 with less features but better sensor and video.

The D90 is still a very good buy with the deals you can get on it at the moment, and I would still recommend it over the 5100 if small size or video are not requirements. Snap one up while you still can!!
 
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