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PlayStation vr demo at kings x station a few mins ago. All adults in the queue I always thought game consoles were for children IMG_0506.JPG
 
I guess at least some of the adults will be there sussing out Christmas presents. I guess many `kids` won't be able to afford the new PS on their own.

How much is it btw?
 
The idea that gaming is 'for kids' is a bit odd.

It's a mainstream entertainment medium that makes more money than cinema. For those of us that never 'got it' it might seem odd, but then some of my interests look odd to others too.
 
While it's not consoles, I run a gaming community. We have members aged 18-70 who regularly play the games we support.

Many of my colleagues at work play PS4 games.

Many games are rated 18+

Games consoles are most definitely not for children.
 
By todays standards we are trying to compare apples to bananas.
Games consoles of old were more for kids......think your mega drives and SNES etc with games aimed at kids.

Over the years though consoles have become very sophisticated and the age rating of some games increased dramatically.

I started life with a Sega Master System and spent hours playing Alex the Kidd.
Now I have an Xbox One which is the hub of my home entertainment system but i spend time playing games as a means of chilling out.
 
Ref consoles for kids, I play destiny in a dad's only clan! OK some of our kids turn up now and again.
VR is supposed to be getting quite good now, give it a couple of years yet though.
 
With all the VR technology it will be perfect for both married men and young boys ;) :coat:
 
I haven't played video games in years, last would have been TOCA touring cars in the 90's. I did have a go at a rally game in a car on a stand at a motorshow about 6 or 7yrs ago, set a fairly respectable time too.
I just find the games of no interest to me anymore.
 
nilagin said:
I haven't played video games in years, last would have been TOCA touring cars in the 90's. I did have a go at a rally game in a car on a stand at a motorshow about 6 or 7yrs ago, set a fairly respectable time too.
I just find the games of no interest to me anymore.
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Me too., I don't play games but I appreciate that millions of adults do.

But unlike you I have tried several driving games and find them totally ridiculous, OTOH my son sets reasonable time on games (he loves Motorsport) but failed to pass his test twice :thinking:
 
Phil V said:
Me too., I don't play games but I appreciate that millions of adults do.

But unlike you I have tried several driving games and find them totally ridiculous, OTOH my son sets reasonable time on games (he loves Motorsport) but failed to pass his test twice :thinking:
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Indeed, My sisters lad is a gamer and can thrash me, However on him buying an RC car some years ago, nitro powered - after crashing it and doing 200 quids worth of damage, he said..."I panicked and was looking for the pause button....:rolleyes: No I said this is real life where a poor operator of said RC car will have to pay for repairs after a lack of talent leads to a collision with the tree stump.
 
Phil V said:
Me too., I don't play games but I appreciate that millions of adults do.

But unlike you I have tried several driving games and find them totally ridiculous, OTOH my son sets reasonable time on games (he loves Motorsport) but failed to pass his test twice :thinking:
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Totally agree with that, I've played against my son a few times with the driving games, (he used to really like those) in the past and he thrashed the arse off me, but when it came to real driving, he got bored with that, and went back to cycling everywhere. His now girlfriend drives, so he's sorted :D

Going back a few years when we bought him his first playstation (one) we would play "Alien" for hours, once I completed that, I lost interest, totally.
 
i think they ceased becoming just a game console when the original xbox and ps2 was launched
once you could plug them into the internet a whole new world started to develop and now are classed as a media centre rather than just a games console.

i have no interest in the gaming side of the latest line up of consoles i find the joy pads cumbersome to use but everything else they are capable of does interest me. the latest xbox one s will play UHD blu ray and at the entry price is the cheapest way of playing them but none of the latest consoles do everything properly
for example the xbox one s will not pass through the latest audio formats which means if you want to listen to your latest film in dolby atmos, dts x or even the hd ma formats it's not gonna happen anytime soon maybe a firmware update in the future might fix who knows

the nvidia shield tv on the other hand will pass all audio formats through to you av amp but struggles with different frame rates. the shield is advertised mainly as a gaming console but the reality is it's much better at media the likes of sony and microsoft consoles are by far a better option for games

these things are not aimed at children and havn't been for a long time
 
I'm not sure I would say all the people in that queue were adults. The first 3 in the queue I would put between 16 and 18, so teenagers. A lot of them look student age and a few more mature, but you know this might sound sexist, but men never really grow up. Do they? I'm not saying that as a put down by the way. I think it is an endearing quality and one of the things I like about men. For some reason most women forget the things they loved when they were young and don't look back. (Not all of us though)
 
Phil V said:
The idea that gaming is 'for kids' is a bit odd.

It's a mainstream entertainment medium that makes more money than cinema. For those of us that never 'got it' it might seem odd, but then some of my interests look odd to others too.
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I'm 60 next year and have just finished Bioshock collection, I spend on average around 15-16 hours a week playing computer games, even more sometimes. I too could never understand why people seem to think games are for kids, or maybe, I'm just an old kid :) Not sure I fancy the VR headset though, I think it might go the way of 3D tv's, time will tell.
 
Poppypix said:
I'm not sure I would say all the people in that queue were adults. The first 3 in the queue I would put between 16 and 18, so teenagers. A lot of them look student age and a few more mature, but you know this might sound sexist, but men never really grow up. Do they? I'm not saying that as a put down by the way. I think it is an endearing quality and one of the things I like about men. For some reason most women forget the things they loved when they were young and don't look back. (Not all of us though)
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Puer aeternus, or the peter pan syndrome, its a pop psychology term for men who never grow up.
 
jakeblu said:
Not sure I fancy the VR headset though, I think it might go the way of 3D tv's, time will tell.
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For general `gaming` you could be right there, but I can see it becoming a bit more specialist in certain areas :whistle: even geared to the more mature gentleman, as interactive moving accessories become available ;)
 
Poppypix said:
I'm not sure I would say all the people in that queue were adults. The first 3 in the queue I would put between 16 and 18, so teenagers. A lot of them look student age and a few more mature, but you know this might sound sexist, but men never really grow up. Do they? I'm not saying that as a put down by the way. I think it is an endearing quality and one of the things I like about men. For some reason most women forget the things they loved when they were young and don't look back. (Not all of us though)
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This reminds me of the quote about getting married: where the woman thinks she'll change her husband, but he never does, while the man expects his wife to remain the same and instead she changes.

Our role is to provide stability in the relationship. ;)

Seriously, we do change, but it can take some fairly major blows to redirect our course, and that's not always even good.

I stopped gaming about 10-12 years ago, in my early 40s, probably as a result of one of those major blows - it just seems too trivial to bother any more.
 
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Maybe it's the male coping mechanism to keep that inner child alive? You're not supposed to cry or show emotion as that is classed as a weakness, so instead you hold on to something that makes you feel carefree and able to forget the pressures of every day living. With that thought in mind I would tend to agree with you ancient_mariner, it's not necessarily a good thing, because to abandon that is taking away what you need to keep the stress levels down. A lot of the things that are there to keep stress down seem to be looked down upon. It's wrong, but what can you do when society refuses to accept what makes us feel good?
 
Poppypix said:
Maybe it's the male coping mechanism to keep that inner child alive? You're not supposed to cry or show emotion as that is classed as a weakness, so instead you hold on to something that makes you feel carefree and able to forget the pressures of every day living. With that thought in mind I would tend to agree with you ancient_mariner, it's not necessarily a good thing, because to abandon that is taking away what you need to keep the stress levels down. A lot of the things that are there to keep stress down seem to be looked down upon. It's wrong, but what can you do when society refuses to accept what makes us feel good?
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4 of the 12 people in that booth are female ;)
This is a very narrow minded view of 'gaming' unfortunately all too common amongst those who don't 'get it'. Gaming is no more about childhood than movies or TV dramas, theatre or books are. It's entertainment, which like those other genres allows people to immerse themselves in an alternative space. And a similar number of females play games as males, in fact all the close females to me play games to some degree, my daughters being an exception (though with my genes that's not a surprise)
Now I'm not a big reader of books, theatregoer, watcher of TV or movies, or gamer, but I've done (and continue to do - except Gaming) each of them and can see the attraction, which has nothing to do with childhood.

I suppose the reason for the 'confusion' comes from the relative 'newness' of the genre, it appeared when some of us were quite young so we associate it with that time, or we are older and only ever saw 'young' people gaming.
 
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OldCarlos said:
For general `gaming` you could be right there, but I can see it becoming a bit more specialist in certain areas :whistle: even geared to the more mature gentleman, as interactive moving accessories become available ;)
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Well...then I might be interested ;)
 
Phil V said:
I suppose the reason for the 'confusion' comes from the relative 'newness' of the genre, it appeared when some of us were quite young so we associate it with that time, or we are older and only ever saw 'young' people gaming.
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It's a very different animal these days, but thinking about it now it isn't really `new`, we played the space invaders, pac-man etc in the pubs in the 70's/80's, so really I guess it's just a natural progression for many.
 
Poppypix said:
Maybe it's the male coping mechanism to keep that inner child alive? You're not supposed to cry or show emotion as that is classed as a weakness, so instead you hold on to something that makes you feel carefree and able to forget the pressures of every day living. With that thought in mind I would tend to agree with you ancient_mariner, it's not necessarily a good thing, because to abandon that is taking away what you need to keep the stress levels down. A lot of the things that are there to keep stress down seem to be looked down upon. It's wrong, but what can you do when society refuses to accept what makes us feel good?
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the xbox 1 s that sits under the telly in our house belongs to the wife, iv'e never played a single game on it or on the previous consoles before it
my household is dominated female and they all play games
 
OldCarlos said:
It's a very different animal these days, but thinking about it now it isn't really `new`, we played the space invaders, pac-man etc in the pubs in the 70's/80's, so really I guess it's just a natural progression for many.
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That's new compared to more traditional entertainment genres.

Theatre and literature are thousands of years old and cinema well over a hundred.
 
Phil V said:
That's new compared to more traditional entertainment genres.

Theatre and literature are thousands of years old and cinema well over a hundred.
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I know that, ;) but was just referring to electronic games & how even I was first introduced. :cool:
 
OldCarlos said:
Santa won't be bringing one to our house, that's for sure!
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I have it on good authority that Santa won't be visiting you any way, (you're on the norty list :p )
 
Cobra said:
I have it on good authority that Santa won't be visiting you any way, (you're on the norty list :p )
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Oh he does visit, but I think he just forgets to leave most of my pressies, with him being in such a rush.
I reckon one of these years he'll collect all my undelivered gifts together & make a special journey just for me. (y) (a bit like winning The Gadget Show prize :D )
 
I'm afraid saying that computer games are for kids is a little old fashioned.
The top games available for console and PC are directed specifically to 18+.

With many more jobs involving computers and mobile games getting quite respectable I'd imagine a high proportion of 20-40 year olds game regularly.

Even the sporty guys from school who had no interest in gaming, now play FIFA regularly. VR is also new tech and obviously not affordable to your average 15 year old.

As for Santa, he's forgotten about me years ago, but he seems to remember the missus, he just borrows my card to pay for things :)
 
cosmicma said:
the xbox 1 s that sits under the telly in our house belongs to the wife, iv'e never played a single game on it or on the previous consoles before it
my household is dominated female and they all play games
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Where does she get the time to play it? Good to hear. I'm more of a WII girl myself :)
 
For me it's all about time and with a young family right now I ain't got time, priorities.

But who knows is years to come maybe,?? when the lad ask for his, console buts that's a long way off!
 
MR_Productions said:
For me it's all about time and with a young family right now I ain't got time, priorities.
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This. I'm lucky if I get an hour a week of gaming time, which is currently being spent getting to grips with Europa Universalis IV.
 
Llamaman said:
This. I'm lucky if I get an hour a week of gaming time, which is currently being spent getting to grips with Europa Universalis IV.
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Haha!!

we had our second child in august and the playstation has not been touched!
 
I think part of it is that in the late 70s/early 80s, kids grew up with video games. That same generation (and those after) will view videogames as another form of entertainment. I'm in my 30s and would regularly buy and play newly released games for both PC and PS3. I see it as something I would spend money on that would otherwise be spent on going to the cinema, going out for drinks etc.

I was a big COD-head so would happily play COD with friends online. We all had headsets so we would banter and chit-chat the way the previous generation might do in a pub.

Having said all that, since I got married and bought our first house, my PS3 is still in the garage in its original box. The most "gaming" I do now is on my iPhone. I have a feeling my console days are over :(
 
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