Well on the day I ordered the d500 + 16-80 + 35 f1.8, the buyer for my 12-40 has pulled out. Not the end of the world as it means the new set up has cost me £100...it's just delayed the purchase of a zoom. Lesson no1 -wait til everyone pays before ordering
On the upside, I still have a toe in with m43
The weight difference is noticeable imo, my D750 body only (which is roughly the same weight as the D500) is pretty much the same weight as my EM1 with 12-40mm f2.8 attached. The performance is well worth the weight though imoMy main “concern” is the body size compared to the e-m1, it doesn’t seem too heavy just bigger than I’m used to..
I think there isn’t too much weight difference in the like for like lens comparisons, something like 500g or so
The f2.8's not that bad in use tbh as it's balanced well. The f4 is a very nice lens though and noticeably lighter.you're right - a 70-200 2.8 is out of the question for me so i think i'll go for f4.
As above what do you want to shoot and why are you considering MFT?If you were on a tight budget but wanted to try the MFT system from scratch today, what would you buy? Let's say for example, £500 to start, and looking to the used market.
Exactly how I started. I then added the 40-150mm f4-5.6 R and Panny 20mm f1.7 IIits depends what you shoot of course, whether you need / want weather sealing. I started with the E-m10 and 14-42, then added the 45mm f1.8
As above what do you want to shoot and why are you considering MFT?
My main aim with moving from DSLR was to reduce the size and weight of my kit but keep good image quality.
I started with an Olympus E-PL5 with 14-42mm 3.5-5,6 RII (the manual zoom) and 40-150mm zoom kit. That covered everything my Pentax K100D could in a much smaller, lighter set up.
Yeah the older models are bargains. It was always the LCD resolution that put me off the EM5, but if you can see past that then the final image is no different to any other Olly (barring the 20mp Em1-II of course) and is a steal. Weather sealed too I believe. I'm not sure I would use Olly for macro though. I like the idea of the 2 x crop factor, but I'm often shooting at over 1000 ISO on my D750 and I think my cropped images on this would be better.I'm interested in the MFT range for macro mostly, portraiture and maybe some wildlife down the road. The reason I'm suddenly interested is I'm seeing a lot of the older models appear now on local used sites, some seem to be nice bargains. Like an EM5 + 12-50mm for €300 (£266) It is the IBIS and the nicely priced macro lenses I've seen for the format that attracts me.
I moved to Fuji for the same reasons, I switched from an FX Nikon, had some hefty lenses too like a Sigma 150mm macro that was 1.2kg alone
Yeah the older models are bargains. It was always the LCD resolution that put me off the EM5, but if you can see past that then the final image is no different to any other Olly (barring the 20mp Em1-II of course) and is a steal. Weather sealed too I believe. I'm not sure I would use Olly for macro though. I like the idea of the 2 x crop factor, but I'm often shooting at over 1000 ISO on my D750 and I think my cropped images on this would be better.
Dunno, I've not used Yongnuo. I used off camera flash but still find that I need high ISO a lot of the time, but it's not something I do a lot of tbh. I guess on m4/3 you've got more DOF so don't have to shoot at f16 and so maybe can get away with f8.I use off cam flash mostly when doing macro, and try to keep the ISO down. Even with the Fuji I don't like doing macro above 800, when you're in that close the noise tends to magnify. I will shoot natural light at times, but more for 'close up' scenes rather than intricate macro. The old YN-560 I have worked fine with Nikon, and now with the Fuji, I'm assuming it would be fine with the Oly too?
Don't you manually focus with macro? I set mine at 1:1 and then move myself closer/further away to focus.I used to have the o60 for macro - loads of detail but it was pretty slow to focus.
I had better success with my d7000, 70-300 and a raynox. Always used flash
It's all about jumping spiders don't you know I would never use AF on a macro lens for macro photography.With the Nikon, yes as I didn’t have a macro lens. With the O60, I used AF...got frustrated and sold it.
Then again, who gives a toss about ants anyway..
I can't see anything wrong with that combination and it's a good price.Like an EM5 + 12-50mm for €300 (£266) It is the IBIS and the nicely priced macro lenses I've seen for the format that attracts me.
I go through spells with Macro. It can get frustrating.I used to love macro - maybe I’ll get back into it when the new camera arrives...and when I do something with the “garden”...
I can't see anything wrong with that combination and it's a good price.
It's not that hard if you stick to the OMD range, there's only 3 models, the EM10 being the most basic, EM5 next and then EM1 at the top. The EM5 and EM1 are weather sealed, which is the main difference between the EM10 and EM5. The EM5-II also has a larger viewfinder, the same as the EM1. The EM1's are primarily the same as the EM5's but with phase detect AF and the grip. The EM1-II is the first 20mp m4/3, the rest of the OMD's are 16MP.Atm I'm using the Fuji 35mm 1.4 on extension rings with OCF. The extension rings have full AF capability but I mostly use Manual focus for macro. It's much more reliable. Though, if I use the shorter ext ring that gives more a 'close up' scene rather than true macro, AF is snappy and works fine. at 1:1 though, no matter the system, MF is always your better bet.
I like the look of the OMD-em10 II .... I think? have to brush up on the dozens of models and letters in the range
SO far, I'm assuming - OMD is the lower spec? then you have the EM-5/II which are weather sealed? and the EM1/II are their flagship? And no idea in between. Not quite as complex as the panasonic range though
It's not that hard if you stick to the OMD range, there's only 3 models, the EM10 being the most basic, EM5 next and then EM1 at the top. The EM5 and EM1 are weather sealed, which is the main difference between the EM10 and EM5. The EM5-II also has a larger viewfinder, the same as the EM1. The EM1's are primarily the same as the EM5's but with phase detect AF and the grip. The EM1-II is the first 20mp m4/3, the rest of the OMD's are 16MP.
There are other bits and bobs on different models such as hi res mode, and fully articulated screen vs tilt screen.
I go through spells with Macro. It can get frustrating.
I think there's quite a few differences between the EM10-II and the EM5 tbh, weather sealing, inbuilt flash, silent shutter/electronic shutter (not sure if the EM5 got this via firmware update), higher res screen and VF and probably a few other bits.The em10 is the smallest, em5 is bigger and weather sealed
iirc the em10 mkii is basically the em5 mki in a smaller body but double check.
The em1 is the daddy which has a better autofocus system.
I have a set of FOTGA extension rings that do the same trick on M43. As they make electrical contact then the electronic focus and aperture controls work. Auto focus too.Atm I'm using the Fuji 35mm 1.4 on extension rings with OCF. The extension rings have full AF capability but I mostly use Manual focus for macro. It's much more reliable. Though, if I use the shorter ext ring that gives more a 'close up' scene rather than true macro, AF is snappy and works fine. at 1:1 though, no matter the system, MF is always your better bet.
You're probably right I read someone talking about it on the Olympus forums but didn't really investigate and they're often not that accurate.I think there's quite a few differences between the EM10-II and the EM5 tbh, weather sealing, inbuilt flash, silent shutter/electronic shutter (not sure if the EM5 got this via firmware update), higher res screen and VF and probably a few other bits.
I have a set of FOTGA extension rings that do the same trick on M43. As they make electrical contact then the electronic focus and aperture controls work. Auto focus too.
About £20 on eBay. I've only dabbled with them really, a lot cheaper than a proper lens and it scratched the itch
Fwiw the 12-50 Olympus zoom has a macro mode and it's weather sealed so would make a good companion to the em5.Mine were same price, cheap and cheerful. Of course, one issue is you can't go straight from macro to general shooting without having to remove the rings.
Fwiw the 12-50 Olympus zoom has a macro mode and it's weather sealed so would make a good companion to the em5.
Yep, EM10 is definitely the smallest of the bunch.You're probably right I read someone talking about it on the Olympus forums but didn't really investigate and they're often not that accurate.
It might be the similarity between mki versions of both.
I've played with them all but the em10 is smallest which mattered most to me.
I personally prefer the EM1 to the EM5-II (owned both), but both are cracking cameras.If we're talking looks the best OM-D by far is the E-M5 MkII, such a solid little camera.
The E-M1 amd E-M1 MkII are not the best looking but are the best handling.