"Panasonic G series" Owners Thread

Nice shots, Alan. :)
Haven't had a chance to get the camera out much this week as the new pup has decided I'm his mummy and won't leave me alone. If I get the camera out he wants to see what it is and I can't get any shots of him as he's always too close.
 
Thank you. Have another :D

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You're very lucky. I'd love a dog but I'm spending much of my time caring for someone these days and I doubt I'll be able to have one in the future as my GF doesn't like animals.

PS. That's GF as in "girl friend" rather than a Lumix GF.
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I'm toying with the idea of getting a macro lens.

Has anyone used the Panny 45mm f2.8?

What are others using?

I was hoping for an AF lens but I suppose I'll think about manual so anything via an adapter could be a possibility. Before thinking about the 45mm I was thinking about something in the region of 150mm FF equiv. as I use a 150mm on my 5D.

Ideas anyone?
 
woof woof said:
I'm toying with the idea of getting a macro lens.

Has anyone used the Panny 45mm f2.8?

What are others using?

I was hoping for an AF lens but I suppose I'll think about manual so anything via an adapter could be a possibility. Before thinking about the 45mm I was thinking about something in the region of 150mm FF equiv. as I use a 150mm on my 5D.

Ideas anyone?
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I would love a macro lens for my m43 system, but the price is a tad too high for a native lens. Tried an adaptor with my 90mm Tamron but the results weren't good... Could be my technique though. Thinking about a Raynox as a stopgap though :-)
 
I'm lucky in that in theory I have few responsibilities and can therefore spend money on man toys, but on the other hand I'm a bit tight... :naughty:

I was thinking of something a little longer than 45mm but as far as I can see that's the only MFT macro? If going for a legacy lens I'd want to get something reasonably compact and more in keeping with the camera body size. Bit stuck at the mo so I'll have to have a Google.
 
woof woof said:
I'm lucky in that in theory I have few responsibilities and can therefore spend money on man toys, but on the other hand I'm a bit tight... :naughty:

I was thinking of something a little longer than 45mm but as far as I can see that's the only MFT macro? If going for a legacy lens I'd want to get something reasonably compact and more in keeping with the camera body size. Bit stuck at the mo so I'll have to have a Google.
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Same boat, but I'm an UTTER skinflint :D Can't justify spending more money on a macro for my Panny system (that's basically for fun) than I have for my Nikon system (which is for being deadly serious/boring) :)
 
ronnus said:
I would love a macro lens for my m43 system, but the price is a tad too high for a native lens. Tried an adaptor with my 90mm Tamron but the results weren't good... Could be my technique though. Thinking about a Raynox as a stopgap though :-)
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Yes....I am in the same boat, those Raynox look ok though
 
I am the other way round! I have a kiron 105 f2.8 macro waiting for me to purchase a mirrorless body to put it on! Too many choices! G3, OM-D, the new G5 when it is released and the big possibility of Canon dropping a mirrorless out this month too! Decisions, don't you just hate them :lol:
 
This thread seems to have dried up a little. Where is all the talk of the upcoming rumoured Panasonic G5 to be announced soon?
 
clicktor said:
This thread seems to have dried up a little. Where is all the talk of the upcoming rumoured Panasonic G5 to be announced soon?
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Rumour is that it'll use the same chip but in a slightly more rounded body. Rumour site posts seem to be saying that Panny are a little boring these days and need to try harder. I think I agree, sadly.
 
samems said:
Do you think Canon will have a Micro 4 thirds this year?
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I would be prepared to bet that Canon will never release a m4/3rds camera, they are very likely to release a mirrorless body, but like Nikon are more likely to do their own mount.
 
I reckon Canon's most likely move will be to bring the G1x sensor into a mirrorless body, which iirc is around 1.8x on the crop factor. That was on one of the rumor sites. I am still not sure which route to go down. I have ruled out the OM-d due to cost now, it is not a viable option. So G3, Gx1 or G5 I think, unless canon do actually do something to tempt me to stay with them!
 
I try not to look at the rumour sites too much, it starts me thinking that my current kit is inadequate and that I need to buy a new toy!
I am quite interested to see if a Canon model arrives though.
 
Mandoo said:
I am quite interested to see if a Canon model arrives though.
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that will happen soon, I wouldn't be surprised if it was announced sometime this year.

It just won't be m4/3rds, there is absolutely zero chance of Canon doing it and possibly losing future lens sales.

It will probably be a bad thing for the m4/3rds companies, as Canon has the ability and resources to launch and market their system far more effectively than the m4/3rds companies do.
 
I'm sure Canon will do a CSC but I'm not too sure that it's going to blow MFT out of the water and Canon, like Panasonic, seem to be behind Sony in sensors these days.

Reading the reviews the impression I get is that the latest Nikon/Sony offerings have much more DR (that interests me) whereas Canon are arguably (or very arguably) treading water and not really moving things on. More MP's, a bigger screen, better AF performance etc seem to be the upgrades Canon offer and none of those things really interest me. So, I'd expect a Canon CSC to offer their latest sensor tech and for it to be competent but (again, arguably) lagging behind what seem to be the state of the art latest tech from Sony/Nikon and therefore much less of a threat to MTF in terms of IQ... but Canon's marketing pull may be a threat.
 
woof woof said:
I'm sure Canon will do a CSC but I'm not too sure that it's going to blow MFT out of the water


but Canon's marketing pull may be a threat.
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That was my point, if Canon launch a mirrorless, perhaps with a sensor similar to the G1x, while it may not be hugely better (if at all than m4/3rds), Canons marketing will have a detrimental effect on m4/3rds. In the UK, Jessops is getting into bed with Canon, in the US if you read the forums based there, in the larger electrical places like Best Buy, Canon is dominant, Canon is pretty well dominant in Asia and will have a pincer grip of existing Canon compact users and xxxD users all gravitating towards it. The only company really able to compete with Canon is Nikon, and they don't have a product in this market (yet).

M4/3rds users getting excited about a m4/3rds size camera from Canon should probably watch what they wish for, it's actually a bigger threat to m4/3rds expansion than any other company out there.
 
Dave1 said:
The only company really able to compete with Canon is Nikon, and they don't have a product in this market (yet).
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Isn't that the J1/V1 series? Surely those are Nikon's competing products and CSC/M43rds equivalent effort?

I don't think anything can really touch m43rds for a while. Even if Canon brought out an awesome mirrorless solution tomorrow, with everything you could want in a mirrorless body, the lens line up that launches with it would be lacking in comparison to the extensive range on offer for m43rds. It's not about the fact they could pair it with their vast array of EF/EFS lenses. It's about providing modern day compact/pancake lenses for smaller CSC bodies that people want. Although, some of the smaller primes would be cool.

Canon will want to introduce a whole new format most likely with a new proprietary mount for Canon CSC. I can't see them wanting to allow their EF/EFS lenses to work with what they bring out. They'll surely want to develop their own new lenses and enter a new market £££.

I think for Canon it simply HAS to be 2.0x crop or below. Someone mentioned 1.8x in an above post. This could be the sweet spot if they can still make the bodies and lens combo small enough.
 
The rumour sites seem to be saying that the latest batch of f2.8 Canon primes, including the 40mm pancake, are possibly intended for CSC use probably via and adapter.

Only time will tell of course but the rumour sites have a pretty good record of getting very close to the truth and more so as launch date approaches so I wont be surprised to see a Canon CSC launched with a lens or two and an EF adapter. The thought of using a CSC with a large EF zoom lens attached doesn't interest me but it will some.
 
clicktor said:
Isn't that the J1/V1 series? Surely those are Nikon's competing products and CSC/M43rds equivalent effort?
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I omitted the J1/V1 as I see it as a souped up compact sensor and not really comparable with the 2x or larger sensors. Just my opinion of course, and I do think we will still see a proper CSC from Nikon with a larger sensor in the near future, especially if Canon launch a 1.8x or 2x CSC.
 
Might be looking for a G2 myself as i am finding the D90 quite heavy!! Love the shots with the 50mm guys.
 
woof woof said:
As I haven't contributed much to this thread recently... Flowers!!! :D

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I grabbed these between downpours.

I've been itching to buy something new...

I fancy the Fuji X Pro 1 but reports of poor AF/MF and bugs put me off and my local Jessops doesn't stock them so I haven't been able to try one yet. I sort of fancy a Nex 7 but the lens choice puts me off :thumbsdown: I switched my attention to the OMD but I spotted that the lowest ISO is 200 and as I'm a wide aperture fan that'll possibly mean using ND's more plus there's no inbuilt flash and I'd miss my G1's fully adjustable screen. I think I'll wait and see what the GH3's spec looks like.
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What lens did you use
 
Found some Jags on a test day, old and new so tried panning with the G3 and fish eye! This is me stood with my toes in the road as they flash past at 30-40mph getting dizzy with the spinning....

General view..
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It's funny how different parts of the frame rotate as you pan...
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About 3 foot from the lens
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A heavy crop.
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samems said:
Might be looking for a G2 myself as i am finding the D90 quite heavy!! Love the shots with the 50mm guys.
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There's one in the classifieds but looks a little pricey given the Tesco offer of not long ago (that I bought mine thru :) ). Still loving mine and have no compunction to upgrade to a G3... The G5 would have to be literally a quantum leap to persuade me too!
 
Beagletorque said:
Found some Jags on a test day, old and new so tried panning with the G3 and fish eye! This is me stood with my toes in the road as they flash past at 30-40mph getting dizzy with the spinning....
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Lovely, lovely cars.

I've only ever had one Jag, a 4ltr Jag S. The only older cars I've had are a MG Midget and MGB Roadster but to be honest older cars are better off being owned by someone else as I can't be bothered to look after them properly. Newer cars are best for me as they take less looking after but they're nowhere near as good looking or characterful.
 
ronnus said:
There's one in the classifieds but looks a little pricey given the Tesco offer of not long ago (that I bought mine thru :) ). Still loving mine and have no compunction to upgrade to a G3... The G5 would have to be literally a quantum leap to persuade me too!
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The only complaints I have are that the higher ISO peformance could be better and the DR is rather limited. If the GH3 has the DR and general IQ of the Oly OMD I could be rather tempted.
 
woof woof said:
The only complaints I have are that the higher ISO peformance could be better and the DR is rather limited. If the GH3 has the DR and general IQ of the Oly OMD I could be rather tempted.
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Yep, I'd go with that... Unless the body costs more than, say, a D7K. Even then tho I could potentially be tempted... ;)

For some reason the OMD leaves me very cold.
 
Llamaman said:
Because it's pig ugly and costs a grand? ;)
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:D Probably hit the nail on the head there... My first reaction when I saw the price was "Eh? You can buy a proper camera for that!" ;)
 
My sister showed me her Nex 3 today. She had some night time shots which were out of camera JPEG's and they looked impressive at ISO 1600, as did a movie clip she'd shot. Her hubby has the Nex 5 and the image quality of the two seem to look the same... and kick my G1 into touch to be honest.

I hope Panny come up with something with improved DR, ISO and general IQ rather than the stream of slow zooms they seem obsessed with :(
 
I do quite like the Sony models, but the size of some of the lenses puts me off. That and the cost of the pancake ones.
 
The Nex3 and Nex5 are the same sensor, their only difference is plastic/metal body and 720/1080 video. I sold my GF1 in favour of an Nex5 and on pure image quality it blows the GF1 out of the water in both high ISO and dynamic range. The handling of the GF1 is better initially but now I'm used to the Nex it's no problem and the flip screen is a massive improvement for both macro and video. I used my Nex alongside my Canon 40d to shoot a wedding a few weeks ago using OM Zuiko primes and a sigma 30mm pancake and it was ideal and delivered more candids than the 40d due to its' size. Although There is less choice in AF lenses for the Nex, I use manual glass almost exclusively so that's not an issue for me.

These were both with an OM Zuiko 50mm 3.5 Macro;

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Just my thoughts really!

Cheers
Steve
 
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I actually swapped from a Nex-5n to the GF1. The IQ of all the Nex cameras is way better than that of the GF1, but the lenses aren't portable enough and the controls are fiddly IMO.

My GF1 is paired with the 20/1.7, perfect for street shots. There's nothing comparable in the Nex range unless you go for the 24/1.8 which is big and damn expensive! Such a shame, as the range and size of lenses really let the E system down.
 
What the Nex really needs IMVHO is a 30 or 35mm f1.4/f1.8.

Maybe it's just me :thinking: but if I was launching a new system I'd go with a standard and a tele zoom, 28-70 and 70-200/300 equiv, and a set of maybe four primes, a wide, something like 24/28mm, a standard 50mm equiv, a 85mm and lastly a macro 50/90mm.

So for APS-C that'd be 18-50mm, 50-200mm f3.5-5.6's, 18mm f1.8, 35mm f1.4, 50mm f1.4 and a macro. Voilà! I'd buy into that :) I can't see how Sony got is so wrong :)

Actually what I'm hoping for is for Panny to bring out an RF form camera with fully articulating screen (so I can turn it to the body,) increased dynamic range, higher ISO performance and IQ and a hybrid display with EVF for daytime and low light shooting and an OVF or non light emitting EVF for night time shoting. Oh, and a set of lenses without FBW but with markings. Something like that should be along any minute now :lol:
 
I've got to say that I was never that impressed with the 20/1.7 on my GF1. I bought it on the back of the many glowing reviews and comments but found the AF just too slow and crunchy to shoot pics of my kids consistently. With fat shutter speeds I'd still get blurry pictures pointing to the AF and I wasn't exactly shooting sports! I ended up selling it on after a few months for the 14/2.5 which has considerably better AF but was unfortunately too wide for most portraits...- combination of the two would be perfect! O be fair to the 20mm though, in good conditions it is a very sharp lens, just not right for me.
 
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