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Just use windows 10. It will be fine.

Ransomware disproportionally affects even big companies with massive IT budgets. I doubt your run of the mill windows defender or avast is up to scratch really so you are just rolling the dice and go to bed hoping in the morning your files are still there. Maybe you need a very clever backup strategy (to make sure backup doesn't get infected)... I'm really not sure.
I have come to realise I had a very easy life IT-wise until now. It's like getting off your car onto motorbike, just a very fast one.
 
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Ransomware disproportionally affects even big companies with massive IT budgets. I doubt your run of the mill windows defender or avast is up to scratch really so you are just rolling the dice and go to bed hoping in the morning your files are still there. Maybe you need a very clever backup strategy (to make sure backup doesn't get infected)... I'm really not sure.
I have come to realise I had a very easy life IT-wise until now. It's like getting off your car onto motorbike, just a very fast one.
Our IT department have a phishing email program, sending fake phishing emails (based on real ones) out to everyone a couple of times a month. Up to 30% of people in some groups click the link. Just unbelievable.

Windows is fine until someone loads up malware.
 
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£800 spent so far and without GPU it is just sitting there and collecting dust.... It looks mighty unlikely to find a decent offer till at least February now. The just announced RTX 3060 looks very interesting with 12GB DDR6 at RRP £299. Problem is it will ship from end of FEB and availability may be just as bad as 8GB £369 3060 Ti (how odd - more memory for less?!). I suspect the cheaper one would perform better in editing tasks?!

For CPU I just grabbed 5600X from currys the other day out of pure desperation. I may come to regret this, or perhaps I will just treat it as as a very brief stopgap till the end of the year. It was a really stupid idea to build a desktop in 2020/21. You either build a monster Threadripper / XEON or go laptop...
 
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Buy what precisely? https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/shop/geforce/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-gb

Certainly not paying £400 for abused 2016 1060 etc. It's not worth £100.

It looks more likely I will get to dump everything I've got on eBay

Just choose something, doesn't have to be perfect. JUst get the thing built and it will make life easier for you rather than selling stuff off.
 
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Just choose something, doesn't have to be perfect. JUst get the thing built and it will make life easier for you rather than selling stuff off.
Rubbish 2016 card for the price of new 3060... Great. I have zero work now anyway thanks to Boris and co. Besides it is not even available!!

That's like paying £4000 for Nikon d700 today
 
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Wow, I went to try to look for a card for you, something like 1070. Even that is mostly more than £200. Wow! I sold my 970 in May for £80 and sold the "I want to play Asgard's Wrath now" stop-gap 1070Ti for £210 in September, on this very forum.

The way to look at it, buy something cheap to get you started, at least able to use the computer. Then when you sell it on, you won't take too much loss in the grand scheme of things. Something like gtx970 or rx570?
 
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Wow, I went to try to look for a card for you, something like 1070. Even that is mostly more than £200. Wow! I sold my 970 in May for £80 and sold the "I want to play Asgard's Wrath now" stop-gap 1070Ti for £210 in September, on this very forum.

The way to look at it, buy something cheap to get you started, at least able to use the computer. Then when you sell it on, you won't take too much loss in the grand scheme of things. Something like gtx970 or rx570?
You should see how much used 570 are now going for and probably it's not the limit. Even 470 or 550! People are irrationally desperate.

Yesterday I read some articles and basically even auto makers are cutting back and shutting down because they can't get some chips. There is some very serious s*** going on out there.
 

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The way to look at it, buy something cheap to get you started, at least able to use the computer. Then when you sell it on, you won't take too much loss in the grand scheme of things. Something like gtx970 or rx570?
I think this - otherwise the OP will take a bath on the parts they've bought if they sell them on.

And that's the joy of a PC - you can upgrade parts along the way.

I'd just get the thing built.
 
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And that's the joy of a PC - you can upgrade parts along the way.
The only useful thing in 2022 from this kit left will be the GPU and maybe the case. And that's a big maybe because it has no USB4 ports. DDR4 RAM, MB and CPU, possibly even PSU will be incompatible with anything new. I reckon I'll sell the whole thing towards the end of the year and maybe by then we will have some more macs on offer and better software compatibility. At least I will know if my printer will be supported on there going forward. I certainly don't wish to experience the repeat of this parts fiasco nor have any intention to spend any more time on Windows than strictly necessary. If it proves noisy it will move even quicker.
Perhaps I'll use it as a strictly editing-only, Offline PC. I'm realistically forced to keep the old MBP for car diagnostics (Virtualbox windows) and on-site work and it has no issues for web browsing and email. It will be crazy if it becomes a printer interface too in a little while.

My son ordered one of these from eBuyer last week, was given delivery dates of 20th Jan and 20th Feb, but its turned up today

Sometimes you get lucky. The sellers drop a few cards per day, many severely overpriced. I think I would certainly take the 8GB 3060 TI FE or 8GB 3070 FE now given the situation, but if it drags on to FEB I am genuinely interested if the cheaper non-TI 12GB card is actually better for editing needs. nVidia really confused the situation yesterday.
 
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If it’s one of the newer 3000 series you are looking for, nvidia are doing a bait and switch: send out FE cards for review at lower price, then when FE card stock dry up, board partners raise their prices.

In the DIY market, the PSU should be compatible for the foreseeable future. The mobo, CPU and RAM will not be compatible when AM5 DDR5 comes out. But remember new stuff won’t change your current stuff capability. You should be able to add USB 4 PCIe card and use existing hardware. It’ll likely be just 10% slower than latest and greatest, no biggie.

Or you could make some money selling that 5600x now, if you can’t beat them.....


(edit: clarified: slower than latest greatest, speed won't change overnight)
 
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Buy what precisely? https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/shop/geforce/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-gb

Certainly not paying £400 for abused 2016 1060 etc. It's not worth £100.

It looks more likely I will get to dump everything I've got on eBay
Overclockers have Radeon 580s in stock for £300. You could have your machine up and running by the weekend. It's more than they used to cost but, you know....

I'm not sure what you're trying to run - but my 590 is perfectly adequate for lightweight tasks like Cyberpunk and Watch Dogs Legion :)
 
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Overclockers have Radeon 580s in stock for £300.
You are very welcome to buy my heavily used 5d3 for £2400. It is perfectly fine and will happily cover weddings. We can then discuss other similarly insane purchases. I do mean it
 
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You are very welcome to buy my heavily used 5d3 for £2400. It is perfectly fine and will happily cover weddings. We can then discuss other similarly insane purchases. I do mean it
As it happens, I have enough cameras thanks.

But if I needed one I'd buy the best I could at the price available rather than reminiscing about when they cost less :). Since it appears you don't need your computer I guess you'll just wait the drought out.
 
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As it happens, I have enough cameras thanks.

But if I needed one I'd buy the best I could at the price available rather than reminiscing about when they cost less :). Since it appears you don't need your computer I guess you'll just wait the drought out.
Reminds me of the great Dutch tulip craze quite a while ago :) That's a textbook example how to bin your hard earned cash and worse this encourages Scalpers and OverPricers,
 
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Reminds me of the great Dutch tulip craze quite a while ago :) That's a textbook example how to bin your hard earned cash and worse this encourages Scalpers and OverPricers,
Apologies - I thought you were looking for ways to make your computer work. I understand now that you want to complain about it not working. My mistake.
 
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Apologies - I thought you were looking for ways to make your computer work. I understand now that you want to complain about it not working. My mistake.
Whatever. I didn't ask to completely bankrupt me. Covid is quite enough
 
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does your MOBO have onboard graphics. If so - just use that and put in a GPU later and use the thing. Your parts will depreciate anyway and it sounds like you need it.
It has nothing to do with mb. All amd retail consumer CPUs have no GPU now, opposite of intel. I find it very surprising that they include the graphics link in the mb and thus makes us pay for something entirely useless, just like those usb2 ports.

There is just no f*****g way I am going to spend £300 on 2016 doorstop. End of discussion. Period.
 
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