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I know Jared Polin isn't everyone's cup of tea, but this is worth a look.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TVo8N6m8zQ
If you were to watch it you'd see it's not "Political". I don't post political threads.No thanks.
I stay away from political threads.
Way way too much politics in the world these days, its almost become a religion.
I think we all post "political" simply because politics is,,,If you were to watch it you'd see it's not "Political". I don't post political threads.
...so everything is in some way political.late Middle English: from Old French politique ‘political’, via Latin from Greek politikos, from politēs ‘citizen’, from polis ‘city’.
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If only they had had the same amount of security outside the capitol building as they did during the BLM protests then maybe things would have been different. But white folks are law abiding citizens aren't they.
During the BLM protests the National Guard was posted on the steps of the capitol building to protect it.
During the Trump inspired protests it was just the normal security protecting the capitol building. Yet it was these white thugs that invaded the capitol building. Quite ironic don’t you think.
And that was the point of my previous post.
During the BLM protests the National Guard was posted on the steps of the capitol building to protect it.
During the Trump inspired protests it was just the normal security protecting the capitol building. Yet it was these white thugs that invaded the capitol building. Quite ironic don’t you think.
And that was the point of my previous post.
Because the PJs photos will have a different point of view and will reach different news outlets.Why get involved in an incident that is going to have thousnds of images taken by the people involved that are great even when taken on a smartphone. 2
I've shot lots of protests in the UK, and one or two peaceful protests in Washington DC. The risk to photographers and journalists is generally low. Where there's been trouble, the policing has nearly always been effective at containing it. But this wasn't a protest. It was a violent attempt to subvert democracy. And in this situation the difficult and now dangerous role of journalists is more important than ever. Trump spent both of his election campaigns and the four years of his lamentable presidency training his followers to hate the 'fake news media'. Instead, his supporters could have their own 'alternative facts' and live in a toxic bubble untroubled by objective truth. The iPhone footage taken by a MAGA-hatted rioter who regards 'the MSM' as the enemy is worthless as reportage, though I'm sure it plays well on whatever social media Trump is still allowed on. The journalists needed to be there to tell the rest of us what actually happened, not the twisted version extremists who were prepared to attack the media physically would have given us.I think Jared just used this incident(riot) as a vehicle to show some interseting photographs of the event.
Every protest for whatever reason runs a risk for any photographers in attendance as a photo Journo.
If you want great shots you have to take big risks. That's always been known.
So what's new Jared.
It is also worth remembering that hundreds of people at that incident will have photographed and filmed many fantastic shots on there smart phones. Because of that the requirement for a professional photo journalist to get involved in these dangerous situations is now questionable.
Why get involved in an incident that is going to have thousnds of images taken by the people involved that are great even when taken on a smartphone. 20 yrs ago yes, there was a definite need for professional journalist to take these risks, but not now.
Those photo journalists were there because they wanted to be, not because they had to be. Those days are gone, everyone has a camera now.
I think Jared just used this incident(riot) as a vehicle to show some interseting photographs of the event.
Every protest for whatever reason runs a risk for any photographers in attendance as a photo Journo.
If you want great shots you have to take big risks. That's always been known.
So what's new Jared.
It is also worth remembering that hundreds of people at that incident will have photographed and filmed many fantastic shots on there smart phones. Because of that the requirement for a professional photo journalist to get involved in these dangerous situations is now questionable.
Why get involved in an incident that is going to have thousands of images taken by the people involved that are great even when taken on a smartphone. 20 yrs ago yes, there was a definite need for professional journalist to take these risks, but not now.
Those photo journalists were there because they wanted to be, not because they had to be. Those days are gone, everyone has a camera now.
I think Jared just used this incident(riot) as a vehicle to show some interseting photographs of the event.
Every protest for whatever reason runs a risk for any photographers in attendance as a photo Journo.
If you want great shots you have to take big risks. That's always been known.
So what's new Jared.
It is also worth remembering that hundreds of people at that incident will have photographed and filmed many fantastic shots on there smart phones. Because of that the requirement for a professional photo journalist to get involved in these dangerous situations is now questionable.
Why get involved in an incident that is going to have thousnds of images taken by the people involved that are great even when taken on a smartphone. 20 yrs ago yes, there was a definite need for professional journalist to take these risks, but not now.
Those photo journalists were there because they wanted to be, not because they had to be. Those days are gone, everyone has a camera now.
Striking images don’t necessarily show what is actually happening. Stone throwing in Palestine, or toppling of dictators statues, for example.Well, it's a good question. It's true, but the standard of photography in situations like that can be awful and confused. You might not have a clue what's going on. There's a need for trained photographers to capture striking images, even in situations such as that. Those are the ones that will go down in history. It needs to be remembered, just not with a jumble of images.
Striking images don’t necessarily show what is actually happening. Stone throwing in Palestine, or toppling of dictators statues, for example.
Those photo journalists were there because they wanted to be, not because they had to be. Those days are gone, everyone has a camera now.
You only had to look at some of the people who were attending that protest to see the way it was going. When something like that kicks off it becomes anarchy and bad things can (and do) happen. An experienced photojournalist would surely realise that and understand the potential outcome, that's they price they pay for getting the money shot.
I think Jared just used this incident(riot) as a vehicle to show some interseting photographs of the event.
Every protest for whatever reason runs a risk for any photographers in attendance as a photo Journo.
If you want great shots you have to take big risks. That's always been known.
So what's new Jared.
It is also worth remembering that hundreds of people at that incident will have photographed and filmed many fantastic shots on there smart phones. Because of that the requirement for a professional photo journalist to get involved in these dangerous situations is now questionable.
Why get involved in an incident that is going to have thousnds of images taken by the people involved that are great even when taken on a smartphone. 20 yrs ago yes, there was a definite need for professional journalist to take these risks, but not now.
Those photo journalists were there because they wanted to be, not because they had to be. Those days are gone, everyone has a camera now.
The woman photojournalist attacked inside the capitol building likely falls within that bracket of being inside the building covering the events inside and likely didn’t expect what happened to put her at risk. I doubt anyone inside the capitol expected it to be breached like it was. What should be one of the most secure buildings in the US was pretty easily breached. There were huge failings in security for a government building.I can have a bit of sympathy for the ones inside who wouldnt be expecting anyhting to happen.. But the ones outside themselves dressed in protective gear know exactly what they are letting themselves in for and decided to go for it... Its not nice to see but the sympathy level is low from me
The only people making it political are people replying to this thread. The video covers the role of photojournalists covering civil unrest and the risks they take knowing or even unknowingly. This video could have been any civil unrest event in recent years. It just happens the most recent was this event. If we kept to the subject the OP raised it wouldn’t be political.I stay away from political threads.
Way way too much politics in the world these days, its almost become a religion.