Posterbe - Ripoff American poster seller using OUR photographs!

Thanks to EPUK, I have just found at least four of my images on the Posterbe website which offers prints from our photographs without paying us. I think I may have deleted some of the EPUK posts relating to this but it would be worth checking the site to see if any of yours are included.

www.posterbe.com
What is EPUK?
 
Plenty of images with Photobucket watermark. A reverse search of some images found the originals in their "native" websites. It seems to me that when you search a term, they in turn search the internet and load the results as their products.
 
I searched for my name and got this.

Strong email to be penned I feel.

(Not that it will do any good).

Yep, that's my missus with James Toseland outside his motorhome. Bloody years old

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They don't hang around. This one only got posted on the BBC site three days ago. And they don't hide where they've nicked the pics from!
 
I searched for my name and got this.

Strong email to be penned I feel.

(Not that it will do any good).

Yep, that's my missus with James Toseland outside his motorhome. Bloody years old

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Bugger me, they just scrape the interwebs. Loads of stuff from my fishing blog on there! I only put low res files on there so they'll make lovely posters.
 
Thanks to EPUK, I have just found at least four of my images on the Posterbe website which offers prints from our photographs without paying us. I think I may have deleted some of the EPUK posts relating to this but it would be worth checking the site to see if any of yours are included.

www.posterbe.com
It seems that they see this as their 'get out clause'.....as in "not us guv but our subscribers/users that are the infringes.......we are only a platform...." stance.

Copied from their own Copyright page.

"Procedure for Making Claims of Copyright Infringement​

If you want unauthorized content removed from Posterbe, please read the instructions below:
It is Posterbe’s policy to work with copyright owners to protect their intellectual property and to insure that unauthorized content is not distributed via the Posterbe network.
If you believe in good faith that any material provided through the Service infringes upon your copyright, you may send notice to Posterbe requesting that the material or access to the material be removed, pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"), by providing our Copyright Agent with the following information in writing (see 17 U.S.C 512(c)(3) for further details). The notice must include all of the following:

A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed. (Simply typing your name at the end of an email or electronically transmitted letter will suffice as an "electronic signature.")
Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or, if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site. (You can give us a list of the copyrighted works you own and a brief description of the works, attach a copy of the works or send us the URL for a website that displays the works you own.)
Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material.
Information reasonably sufficient to permit Posterbe to contact you, such as an address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may be contacted.
A statement that you "have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law." (You can simply copy this statement and put it in your letter, as long as the statement is true.)
A statement that "the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed." (You can simply copy this statement and put it in your letter, as long as the statement is true.)
Without such information Posterbe cannot reasonably comply with its obligations to intellectual property owners and to the members of the Posterbecommunity.
Please note that under Section 512(f) of the Copyright Act, any person who knowingly materially misrepresents that material or activity was removed or disabled by mistake or misidentification may be subject to liability.
Be assured that Posterbe is designed to fully respect intellectual property rights. Posterbe has proprietary software that allows it to block infringing material once taken down from being "re-posted" by anyone. Posterbe enforces and will continue to enforce its Terms of Service which strictly prohibit the public posting of copyrighted material to which the poster does not have rights and together with the aforementioned activities Posterbe brings further protection to content owners seeking to prohibit the distribution of their copyrighted works, while offering a user the best collaborative mobile platform.
Please also be advised that we enforce a policy that provides for the termination in appropriate circumstances of subscribers who are repeat infringers.
Please note that Posterbe operates globally and had adopted this policy to meet the many legal requirements it must comply with."
 
It seems that they see this as their 'get out clause'.....as in "not us guv but our subscribers/users that are the infringes.......we are only a platform...." stance.

Copied from their own Copyright page.

"Procedure for Making Claims of Copyright Infringement​

If you want unauthorized content removed from Posterbe, please read the instructions below:
It is Posterbe’s policy to work with copyright owners to protect their intellectual property and to insure that unauthorized content is not distributed via the Posterbe network.
If you believe in good faith that any material provided through the Service infringes upon your copyright, you may send notice to Posterbe requesting that the material or access to the material be removed, pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"), by providing our Copyright Agent with the following information in writing (see 17 U.S.C 512(c)(3) for further details). The notice must include all of the following:

A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed. (Simply typing your name at the end of an email or electronically transmitted letter will suffice as an "electronic signature.")
Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or, if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site. (You can give us a list of the copyrighted works you own and a brief description of the works, attach a copy of the works or send us the URL for a website that displays the works you own.)
Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material.
Information reasonably sufficient to permit Posterbe to contact you, such as an address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may be contacted.
A statement that you "have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law." (You can simply copy this statement and put it in your letter, as long as the statement is true.)
A statement that "the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed." (You can simply copy this statement and put it in your letter, as long as the statement is true.)
Without such information Posterbe cannot reasonably comply with its obligations to intellectual property owners and to the members of the Posterbecommunity.
Please note that under Section 512(f) of the Copyright Act, any person who knowingly materially misrepresents that material or activity was removed or disabled by mistake or misidentification may be subject to liability.
Be assured that Posterbe is designed to fully respect intellectual property rights. Posterbe has proprietary software that allows it to block infringing material once taken down from being "re-posted" by anyone. Posterbe enforces and will continue to enforce its Terms of Service which strictly prohibit the public posting of copyrighted material to which the poster does not have rights and together with the aforementioned activities Posterbe brings further protection to content owners seeking to prohibit the distribution of their copyrighted works, while offering a user the best collaborative mobile platform.
Please also be advised that we enforce a policy that provides for the termination in appropriate circumstances of subscribers who are repeat infringers.
Please note that Posterbe operates globally and had adopted this policy to meet the many legal requirements it must comply with."


Jeez - the hoops you have to go through to remove your own work from their infringing website........
 
I can't understand how they can offer "huge" prints from small jpgs they get off the web........
The whole operation looks suspect to me. I wouldn't bet on receiving a poster of any size.
 
They appear to be California based with 'global print partners' I wonder if those print partners know about their cavalier approach to copyright......or perhaps they care not either?
 
Are you guys searching by your name or your online presence 'handles'???
 
I got a page not found when I searched for Greenninja67

But they've disabled the search function now.
Perhaps the attention being paid them from here and elsewhere has impacted them in some way?
 
I got a page not found when I searched for Greenninja67

But they've disabled the search function now.
You only get so many searches. Delete cookies for the site and you can search again.
 
Your work may well be appearing BECAUSE you're searching for it.
Interesting point if it is "screen scraping" but if so the business model is still flawed and surely leaves them wide open to copyright infringement laws in many countries. Their copyright page which seems to be linked from every page cannot (I would hope) be a defence of their practices!

As they are in the states......I wonder if you search for any known USA photographers and they appear.....if they or their estates would be taking action in the states???
 
I searched for a few pro photographers and there are loads of examples (Simon D’Entremont, Tony Northrup, Andy Rouse). Some of the images supposedly for sale appear to be screenshots from videos rather than photos. This looks extremely suspect.
 
@Tori_T Are there any tools you have at your disposal to search and destroy crawler bots? We can take this outside the thread
 
Plenty of images with Photobucket watermark. A reverse search of some images found the originals in their "native" websites. It seems to me that when you search a term, they in turn search the internet and load the results as their products.
It looks like this. The searches I have done throw up some of my images on review and newspaper sites.
 
They are quite shameless, aren't they?

A search for my own name brings up a quite a number of my photos. They have often left … | Flickr at the end of the titles from when they scraped the images

Rather bizarrely, as far as I can tell at this point, they seem to have only appropriated photos that I took with a Panasonic G2, which is a relatively small part of my output on Flickr

Edit: Ah. The Panasonic shots are only what comes up when I search just for my name. If I add Sony or Canon, then it finds plenty of other photos of mine.
 
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They have lots on there from my Flickr site. Many of them even have my name / watermark on the image!
 
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