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Just a query really, if anyone could answer it that'll be great.

If a photographer was invited by the landowner to take photos of an equestrian event of competitors who keep their horses on the land. Does the photographer have to have permission to take photos of any minors competing in the event?

Thanks

Lisa
 
I would cover yourself in 2 ways. Firstly I would ask the landowner to ensure that he tells the event organisers that a photographer will be filming the event and if possible to ensure that it is mentioned in the program. Secondly I would tell the participants during the course of the event, perhaps over the loudspeaker that if anyone objects to you taking photographs of ANY competitor, that they should contact you. Best you can do really.
 
I rang the Home Office. They assured me that there is no law against taking photographs of other people's children, provided you do not harass or harm them.

Next, I rang the Health and Safety Executive, where a long-suffering press officer confirmed this. "It's the sort of mad idea that over-zealous managers are always making up," he told me sorrowfully. "And we get the blame."
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Taken from an article in the Telegraph :rules:
 
Legally, you don't have to have permission to take photos of anyone. But if you want to avoid angry/fearful parents then do what MikeM suggests...
 
Hi

Thanks for the replies. Very useful.

Kind regards

Lisa
 
if its on private land and you have the landowners permission then i would say its ok ,,,but is there any sort of agreement between the landowner and the organisers?? there is always the issue with children on the protection register ,,but i would think that one is fairly unlikely .
 
I shoot my local rugby team (adults) but was told that as its their private pitch which they play on I could shoot the colts (juniors) and parents of either team couldn't complain/object. I haven't bothered though as I normally have an hangover from covering the game on a saturday and the kids play sunday mornings :lol:
 
However I was taking photos of my son playing sunday league football and was told to stop, ( I wouldn't mind but he's 16 and some of the kids look 30). It seems that the worlds gone mad.
 
It sounds like a farm or some sort of yard that is holding a show for their liveries. If so it will probably be the owner of the land thats organising the show hence the invitation, in that case there should be no problem taking pics of anyone as its rare for people competing to object to pictures. If its a yard show (which from your original post is what it sounds like) its probably going to be a low key fun event with no announcer so if you are looking to sell them to the competitors get a notice put up with your contact details and make sure people know you are there.
When I ran those sort of shows the competitors would have been happy to have someone along to get pictures of them :)
 
donutagain said:
there is always the issue with children on the protection register ,,but i would think that one is fairly unlikely .
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Being on the Protection Register means that the child is at risk of abuse and doesn't have any bearing on whether pictures of them may be taken and/or published.

Probably in most cases the child would be at risk of abuse from their parents or another family member. Having their photo taken isn't likely to change that in any meaningful way.

The only people who would likely know of their particular status would be Social Services the parents and the police and their doctors on a need-to-know basis. Hardly the kind of thing that would be advertised at a public event.
 
susie said:
It sounds like a farm or some sort of yard that is holding a show for their liveries. If so it will probably be the owner of the land thats organising the show hence the invitation, in that case there should be no problem taking pics of anyone as its rare for people competing to object to pictures. If its a yard show (which from your original post is what it sounds like) its probably going to be a low key fun event with no announcer so if you are looking to sell them to the competitors get a notice put up with your contact details and make sure people know you are there.
When I ran those sort of shows the competitors would have been happy to have someone along to get pictures of them :)
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HI

That's exactly what it is. I've done a few events at this place. The landowner organises the event. most of the liveries take part plus a few other riders with their horses come too.

Lisa
 
dseered said:
For christ sake, people need to grow some neck, Landowner, implied organiser, has asked you take photos of people on his land - take them, any issues direct them to the landowner.
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There's no need to take that attitude. It's her land actually, anyway, she just asked me to check as although she's an astute business woman, 'someone' queried whether or not permission is needed to take pics of minors. I said I didn't think any permission would be needed but would double check with people on here.:thumbs:

Lisa
 
Musicman said:
Being on the Protection Register means that the child is at risk of abuse and doesn't have any bearing on whether pictures of them may be taken and/or published.
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Actually it does, if the photographs enable the child to be located then publication can cause problems. But the organisers have the liability not the photographer.
 
Crazyhorse said:
There's no need to take that attitude. It's her land actually, anyway, she just asked me to check as although she's an astute business woman, 'someone' queried whether or not permission is needed to take pics of minors. I said I didn't think any permission would be needed but would double check with people on here.:thumbs:

Lisa
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Agree with you, no need to be rude, although worth remembering that this could also be said with a very jokey attitude and it come accross completely differently these are just words and it's very easy for them to be taken in the wrong way :)

The organisers / you don't need permission from parents to take photographs of children and you can do anything you want with them (provided it's not obscene).

It may be worthwhile from a politeness basis and also from a business view for you for the organiser to make it clear at the point of entry that photography will be done and that the images will be available on your website later and advise that you will happily delete any images on request. This is how I work and I've never been asked to delete a single image
 
SimonTALM said:
Agree with you, no need to be rude, although worth remembering that this could also be said with a very jokey attitude and it come accross completely differently these are just words and it's very easy for them to be taken in the wrong way :)

The organisers / you don't need permission from parents to take photographs of children and you can do anything you want with them (provided it's not obscene).

It may be worthwhile from a politeness basis and also from a business view for you for the organiser to make it clear at the point of entry that photography will be done and that the images will be available on your website later and advise that you will happily delete any images on request. This is how I work and I've never been asked to delete a single image
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Thank you, that's what we always do. My friend just wanted all the 'i's' dotted and all the 't's' crossed. That's probably why she's got 2000 acres and I've just got a garden. :)

Lisa
 
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