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Hello everyone. Me and my cousin are working on a photography project. At the moment, I am afraid that I can not give you many details, because it will all be released when it kicks off fully and then I will fill you all in on the details.

At the moment I need some help for our research. Could you possibly answer these two questions:

1. What graphical image do you associate with the word Critique or photo tips?
(I need this for a possible graphic, that we might need. I know that this is a hard, and odd question, but please have a think)
2. If I ripped apart one of your photographs (wrote a very detailed and picky critique) and you were a beginner (but it was not harsh, just full of tips on how to improve) and then there was quite a low rating for the photo - What would your reaction be?

Please help me out on this one, as this could be part of our Business Project for college.

Thanks in advance guys!
 
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mortar-board.jpg


(2) LOL We know just from how critique is given and received here on TP that this is a potential minefield, but I suppose my intial reaction would be one of disappointment, probably thinking like many beginners that my picture was better than it actually was.

I hope I'd then have the wit to learn from the critique, but so much depends on the way the critique is given. It should be honest, not glossing over obvious faults, acknowledging positive points, but the accent should most definitely be on encouragement.
 
Critique - something like the mortar board above
Tips - something like a lightbulb? As in "Seen the light" - yeah I got it.

2 completely different things.

As for part 2 - lets see shall we? Nothing like a proper "live experiment"

Here's one of my pics from Sunday. Its a P-51 Mustang taken at Old Buckenham Airshow. Planes are not normally my thing - (so would class myself as a beginner in that particular field )

obasmustang.jpg


Rip it to shreads with tips on how to improve etc, I'll have a look at your critique and tell you exactly how I felt. Be as harsh as you like I really don't mind, and it needs to be honest harsh accurate crit for this to work..........

I'll drop by later / tomorrow to see your crit (and don't worry you won't offend me!):)
 
Ok, well thank you very much guys!! Your help is SO much appreciated! The ideas for graphical images are great and they have been added to my list of initial logo ideas. Thank you for that.

Now onto the critique of the Mustang:

"""Firstly, I think that this is a nice photo, well exposed and the prop blur is brilliant. However the sky behind it is really boring, nothing going on there. I know thats not your fault, but maybe try photoshopping it a little or at least making it darker to show a stormy feel. Secondly, I find the image very flat - it is lacking contrast and I think that for a plane like this, it should be more dynamic, more aggressive with more shadows and highlights - you should increase the contrast. The composition is simple, but good. On the other hand though, you could work on the angle of the shot, again to improve the dynamics. Maybe look into the white balance, because there seems to be a bit of a color cast.

Overall a good photograph though!"""

That was my critique, sorry if a bit harsh, it wouldn't normally be as harsh, but I need to check the immediate reaction.

Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate it and keep them coming! :D
 
bartoszwozniak said:
Hello everyone. Me and my cousin are working on a photography project. At the moment, I am afraid that I can not give you many details, because it will all be released when it kicks off fully and then I will fill you all in on the details.

At the moment I need some help for our research. Could you possibly answer these two questions:

1. What graphical image do you associate with the word Critique or photo tips? an ! mark
(I need this for a possible graphic, that we might need. I know that this is a hard, and odd question, but please have a think)
2. If I ripped apart one of your photographs (wrote a very detailed and picky critique) and you were a beginner (but it was not harsh, just full of tips on how to improve) and then there was quite a low rating for the photo - What would your reaction be? i would recoginise your abilities to critique as being subjective

Please help me out on this one, as this could be part of our Business Project for college.

Thanks in advance guys!
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I really don't think that the sample critique that you posted above was harsh at all. IMO it was constructive and balanced between positives and negatives - certainly not "ripping apart" and in fact I can't see anything to get offended at in that at all :shrug:

I completely agree with the point about it being subjective though. Ultimately your opinion on an image is personal to you and not necessarily right or wrong.

For example, in the shot that Lynton kindly donated I don't necessarily agree with you about the sky being dull and needing some photoshopping. Given the context of the shot I think that a plain sky actually works reasonably well and is certainly not bad enough to need any further attention.

However, what stands out to me but you didn't mention is that compositionally the plane is very central in the shot, which doesn't quite work for me. I would suggest framing it slightly differently in the camera for future shots and cropping some of the foreground out in this particular image.

It's just that 2 different people can both look at the same image and see different things.

With regards to question 1, I think you've already had some good suggestions.
 
Lynton said:
Critique - something like the mortar board above
Tips - something like a lightbulb? As in "Seen the light" - yeah I got it.

2 completely different things.

As for part 2 - lets see shall we? Nothing like a proper "live experiment"

Here's one of my pics from Sunday. Its a P-51 Mustang taken at Old Buckenham Airshow. Planes are not normally my thing - (so would class myself as a beginner in that particular field )

obasmustang.jpg


Rip it to shreads with tips on how to improve etc, I'll have a look at your critique and tell you exactly how I felt. Be as harsh as you like I really don't mind, and it needs to be honest harsh accurate crit for this to work..........

I'll drop by later / tomorrow to see your crit (and don't worry you won't offend me!):)
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Well I think a harsh critique of this picture would be a bit out of order as it's a workman- like shot given that you were probably severely limited in how close you could get and with little control over the dull background anyway.

The prop blur is good, but I can only tell you how I'd approach shooting this assuming you didn't have any restrictions on how you went about it.

I'd go for a low down oblique angle from the front or from the front and to one side, to elimnate the dull bg, and get that prop superimposed against the sky to reinforce the connection between the plane and the sky. I'd be looking to making the most of the detail in the engine cowling and graphics etc., and trying to get some texture and fine detail in there.
 
1: Don't have a pic to hand, but strangely I tend to think of a sun at sunrise or sunset. Not sure why now I think of it actually! And probably not all that helpful, was just my 1st thought. A camera with a lightbulb out the top would work too :D

2: I may go "ouch" at 1st, but I'd be appreciative, no good telling me I've got 9/10 (for example) for a beginner photo, doesn't give much help for improvement does it.
Of course it's also correct that it's subjective, as on that photo above, I feel you're wrong :lol: But that could be because I'm a beginner and easily pleased!
 
This was the sort of thing I was thinking of - taken with the incredible Zeiss 16mm Hologon on a Contax G2 and not by me I hasten to add. Virtually zero distortion!

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bartoszwozniak said:
What do you mean like? Would you be annoyed that I was that harsh to a beginner?
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subjective destroys objectivity
you may not be aware of the subjects real motivations and relate them to your own...
you being the subject
he being the object..but not clearly defined
 
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