RIAT - Photography clause in T's & C's

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So I'm off to RIAT this Saturday (Blagged a couple of free tickets :D), and reading the back of the ticket I came across this:

The Ticket Holder shall not without the Organisers' prior written consent sell, license, or otherwise exploit, or attempt to exploit, any material whether written or in the form of digital or photographic film, sound, video or other recording or computer software obtained or made at the Showground.
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Now, I've started licencing all my worthy photos and whilst I'm definately a hobbist, I've sold a few images to websites and the like.

So, I ask you mighty gurus at TP, what exactly are my rights with reference to photographs I take at RIAT?


EDIT: Found link to the T's and C's online:

http://www.airtattoo.com/airshow/Links/Terms_and_Conditions
 
These types of terms are on the back of all major events.

I don't know whats there this year, but say you took a cracking pic of the Vulcan. All thats there is sky and the plane. Who's to say where that was shot (unless you EXIF is accessed).

If you were to walk around, take pics of the GP, together with the stands and everything else thats on the ground etc, and started selling to the press and magazines, then they would get annoyed, and enforce their terms.

I'm going, just paying to get in. I know a good place near by, where you can see the planes etc from.
 
Well, having paid to get in I assume you're entering into a contract with them and they don't want people throwing about images and making serious money off them (especially when they sell press passes and tickets).

Still, the way it's worded implys that I won't be able to licence my photographs, which is absurd.
 
OK, update.

I've spoken to the head of the RIAT Media Team (also happens to be a close family member, hence free tickets :) ).

The way they want to enforce it is very much as above. Photos for personal use are fair game and they won't assert any rights over those.

Photos that end up in mainstream media (newspapers, websites, magazines, Getty etc) taken at RIAT taken without a press pass and published without consent is what they're targetting. Technically this means they can chase you for publishing photos on Flickr/Facebook but in reality they won't because of the costs involved for such little return.

If you do want to sell a photo from RIAT, they will grant permission in 99.0% of cases, if the photo is particularly good they might ask to use it themselves, either offering to buy the rights to the image outright, or paying to licence the image for their publications. But bear in mind they have a team of official photographers for the event and hence will have pretty much every photo they could want, baring something hugely unexpected happening.

So in summery:

Knock yerselves out, if you stand to really profit from a photo taken at RIAT it doesn't take much to write to them and they'll usually grant permission without any fuss.
 
They use the area I live in as a turn around point, and we have direct line of sight across to the airshow airspace!

I think we may have a bit of a BBQ while we watch the AC do their thing, would have liked to take my son (4) but its a bit steep at £50 for me & the wife to wander around looking at planes for half a day (son will get bored after that!)

Edited to add, I'm a muppet, I'm on about Farnborough airshow!!
 
The T&C can only be applied to persons taking photos within the airfield boundary. If you're outside then they have no hold over you.
 
It's a plane in the sky, who's to say it was taken from the airfield and not locally at burford/lechlade?
 
You haven't paid for your tickets so it could be argued you haven't entered into the contract.
 
swanseamale47 said:
You haven't paid for your tickets so it could be argued you haven't entered into the contract.
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Though I am on their property, so they can tell me what the hell they like, I guess.

As for aircraft in the sky, it's a valid point, who's to know?
 
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