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damn interesting outfit
your shots are a bit dark considering they must now be in digital form
no 1 is the better as in 2 you arent quite interested in that leica..:D

cheers
geoff
 
I like them, but they a wee bit dark. Easy to fix the digital version.
 
Seem underexposed

On another note why anyone would want to dress up in an SS uniform of all the WW2 outfits you could choose is beyond me :shrug:

Not something I ever like to see as making me think about things like the Holocaust, the massacre of civilians and the shooting of POW's even 70 years ago tends to get me all sentimental about things like that.......
 
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Tis a little underexposed but unfortunately you don't have much flexibility with shutter speeds and aperture etc with the IIIa. The photos were taken in dense woodland around 6pm.

The reason for SS: The camera was owned by an SS war reporter called Friedrich Zschäckel, so the 'impression' portrays him directly. He only reported on combat units, not extermination units. There are a lot of people who portray allied war photographers in the UK, the axis have very few. Although I am completely against what the Third Reich did, I find the way the dealt with their propaganda and art direction fascinating, they pioneered and completely revolutionised the way many parts of the media work today. Besides, I only wear the uniform so I can get in with the 'troops' and allow the 'dark side' to have some photos too, I in no way shape or form condone the war atrocities.
 
Fair comment Joe, its just I go to a few of these WW2 events and the amount of Axis re-enacters whom favour the SS uniforms just disturbs me and makes me wonder why they don't wear a Wehrmacht uniform which after all made up the bulk of the German Army.

I fully appreciate the Waffen-SS were the military section of the SS whom were seen as elite troops but in several cases their fanatasicm led to atrocities being committed Malmedy and Oradour-Sur-Glane to name just two.

Sorry for going off thread slightly but it's something I feel quite strongly about
 
I agree there, personally I take pride in the fact I have a reason to do it (and I'm the only one in the UK who fills this role in the UK), however for many other SS Reenactors, this just isn't the case. 'Heer':'Waffen-SS' it was roughly 13:1, I guess it comes down to the interest people have in the 'Elite' side of things, hence why most Brit Reenactors somehow end up as commandos/paras and US Reenactors are over subscribed with the 101st Airborne. I probably wouldn't be in the uniform had I not owned the camera with the history.
 
I have to say I like the darkness of the images.
They're very evocative, and the darkness adds to that imo.
 
The reason people want to dress as the SS might be as simple as the SS has the best looking uniforms. Just a thought. They were very dapper while being evil.
 
The photos are spookily convincing. The out-of-focus backgrounds are superb.

SS uniforms are bound to be controversial. It shouldn't be forgotten though that both the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe were also involved in roundups, or found it easier to turn a blind eye. There is a lot of grey in amongst the black.
 
Idlefrog said:
The reason people want to dress as the SS might be as simple as the SS has the best looking uniforms. Just a thought. They were very dapper while being evil.
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Very true, there is definitely something dark inside that comes alive that really shouldn't.

horrocks said:
The photos are spookily convincing. The out-of-focus backgrounds are superb.

SS uniforms are bound to be controversial. It shouldn't be forgotten though that both the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe were also involved in roundups, or found it easier to turn a blind eye. There is a lot of grey in amongst the black.
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Indeed. It also mustn't be forgotten that there were also a lot of allied war crimes too, whoever wins gets to tell the majority of the stories (although admittedly the axis forces had a lot more to contend with). Most of the war crimes fall within a couple of units in the SS, excluding them, most forces/divisions were probably as bad as each other on all sides.

On a side note, I've spoken to Holocaust Survivors, Holocaust Victim Relatives, Allied Vets and German Vets whilst 'in uniform', they surprisingly think it's very important to keep the history alive in a way that people can see it. As long as the majority of these people have no problem with it, I don't.
 
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Indeed. It also mustn't be forgotten that there were also a lot of allied war crimes too, whoever wins gets to tell the majority of the stories (although admittedly the axis forces had a lot more to contend with). Most of the war crimes fall within a couple of units in the SS, excluding them, most forces/divisions were probably as bad as each other on all sides.
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I have nothing against what you are doing, but to then equate Allied war crimes in any way at all with those of Germany is extremely careless at best. You should think carefully before making absurd and deeply ill-informed comments such as that, because they do your case no good at all, indeed make you look foolish.

All I am saying on the matter.
 
Sorry, my comment came out wrong, I wasn't trying to equate the accumulative sum of all war crimes allied:axis in any way shape or form, if we were to do that the axis war crimes would be 10+:1 easily. The german war crimes are unforgivable and cannot be compared. I apologise this looked the case, it does indeed make me look foolish. I was only trying to compare the standard soldier. I'll have a good read of posts like that in future, it certainly looks ill-informed, I should know better as a history grad.

Thanks for the comment, makes me think twice before I post :D Apologies for the topic deivation mods!
 
Hugo Boss was member of the party and one of the Reichszeugmeisterei-licensed (official) supplier of uniforms to the Sturmabteilung, Schutzstaffel, Hitler Youth, National Socialist Motor Corps, and other party organizations.

I want to think that nobody here ever use Hugo Boss, Siemens, Mercedes-Benz, BMW products or, even worse, be the owner of a VW Beetle, because that person could be mistaken as a party supporter. So, please, let end this absurd debate about the meaning of a costume and focus on the pictures.

The pictures look great, I like the underexposed effect and the noise, also I like the cameras and the costume, specially the boots. :)
 
ariel7515 said:
Hugo Boss was member of the party and one of the Reichszeugmeisterei-licensed (official) supplier of uniforms to the Sturmabteilung, Schutzstaffel, Hitler Youth, National Socialist Motor Corps, and other party organizations.

I want to think that nobody here ever use Hugo Boss, Siemens, Mercedes-Benz, BMW products or, even worse, be the owner of a VW Beetle, because that person could be mistaken as a party supporter. So, please, let end this absurd debate about the meaning of a costume and focus on the pictures.

The pictures look great, I like the underexposed effect and the noise, also I like the cameras and the costume, specially the boots. :)
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Thanks Ariel :D
 
this is about photography
anyone here ever shown a wars of the roses re-enactment photo?...think on folks

i am really feeling down that the guy is getting this flak...i dont think its fair..after all its a prop in accordance with his other interests which i may add...are history!

brighten up the shots is the only critique allowed here

cheres
geoff
 
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Yes, it is about photography which I did pass comment on

Unfortunately some people find Nazi symbolism very distasteful and as there was nothing in the thread title to indicate what one was going to see it was a bit of a case the damage was already done.
 
The overall darkness for me works very well, dark times, dark motives, dark imagery.

Its good not to hide the past, we can only learn if we are not afraid to stare it in the face.
 
horrocks said:
I have nothing against what you are doing, but to then equate Allied war crimes in any way at all with those of Germany is extremely careless at best. You should think carefully before making absurd and deeply ill-informed comments such as that, because they do your case no good at all, indeed make you look foolish.

All I am saying on the matter.
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Personally I found nothing foolish in his comments neither do I find them deeply ill-informed. We aught not to forget that the allies have and still do commit atrocities in war, to argue we can ignore them because the other side was worse is imo very foolish and absurd.

Steve
 
Interesting shots, they definitely improved by viewing on flickr. The darkness adds to the ominous setting.

Oh btw theres a lot of dust on those scans :)

Steve
 
steve_v said:
Personally I found nothing foolish in his comments neither do I find them deeply ill-informed. We aught not to forget that the allies have and still do commit atrocities in war, to argue we can ignore them because the other side was worse is imo very foolish and absurd.

Steve
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How many villages did the allies raise to the ground in retaliation for having soldiers killed?

How many German POW's were executed after being caught trying to escape?

Don't agree

And that's my final thought on the matter
 
Big Nick said:
How many villages did the allies raise to the ground in retaliation for having soldiers killed?

How many German POW's were executed after being caught trying to escape?

Don't agree

And that's my final thought on the matter
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So it should be. This is about the photographs and not history.
 
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