Should it stay or should it go?

What would you do?

  • Sell all you DSLR kit

    Votes: 4 40.0%

  • Sell just the main body

    Votes: 3 30.0%

  • Keep it just in case

    Votes: 3 30.0%
  • Total voters
    10
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Well I'm having a really hard time deciding.

I have a Canon 5DIII which isn't getting much use at all as I prefer the size and weight of my mirrorless, but... and there must always be a but, I love what it can do with the 135L and frankly theres no way (that I can see) that my mirrorless will pull off bird in flight shots.

I'm no pro, I've just been lucky enough to have enough OT in the past to buy these things, but would I just be better off selling before my kit depreciates in the cupboard any more?

What would you do?
 
I'm having the same problem but in the opposite direction. I am currently using a Sony A6000 and I absolutely love it. But I've only had it 2 months and I'm noticing the lack long range lenses is becoming an issue for me. So I'm looking to go to a DSLR body
 
Sony are a bit short of long zooms, but the 55-210 and 18-200's are pretty capable little lenses IMO.
 
Thanks Ian, I have considered the 40-150 2.8, but apart from just being too expensive at the moment I worry it would be too heavy, especially on my M10, even with the grip - does look nice though.

Steve, if I recall the A6000 is an ASP-C, which will be either a 1.5 or 1.6 crop? Not that I'm pushing it but the micro four thirds lineup uses a x2 crop, coupled with a 75-300 or 100-300 gives a 600mm equivalent, or as I tried once mount a 400mm on there for 800mm!
Of course theres always trade offs with higher crop as you'll know but thankfully the Olympus glass is really good.

What I might suggest is have a go with one - perhaps using Olympus WOW promotion (link) where you can borrow one for three days to get a true feel for one.

LOL, de-railed myself :)
 
I have the 55-210mm but find I'm wanting more.

I would rather a 70-300 I think. As I like to do a bit of sports photography.

If Sony make one of these for the E mount I will be more than happy.
 
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Aye, I can imagine - I always found the 70-200 a bit too short and long, but that was on a crop.

If it is primarily reach do look into m43 the 55-210 you have offers up (presuming a 1.5 crop) 315mm, the m43 x-300 gives 600mm, all that said focal length is not as much of a difference at the long end as the short (link to Tamron's focal length tool)
 
There is also a 1.4 tele convertor available for the 40-150 f2.8, giving lot more reach, and at 760 g's, incredibly lightweight for what it is.
 
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Of course you guys are right - it would be pretty much a swap though or more money out if I went with the tele too.

I um'd and ar'd about the M1 but a big part of moving to this format was to reduce size and weight while getting good quality the M1 doesn't appear to be that much below the 60D I have so seemed like it was going the wrong way for me.

Its not on my list but I do have the 12-40 2.8 - very nice (if heavy(ish)) lens :)
 
Well its up for sale, now if someone it doesn't become a huge haggling war I (may) be happy :)

BTW you don't half loose a lot of cash selling don't you??
 
I've always lost money when selling gear,had to go mirrorless (bad health) just couldn't carry around and DSLR + lens anymore,lost a fair bit on my NIkon bodies but the longer you hang on the greater the lost :)
 
When I sold my DSLR gear some of the lenses actually went for more than I paid for them :D Changing systems might not be as expensive as you'd think :D
 
Yup. Luckily I bought some nice lenses before the prices went significantly up and up and up.
 
well after a few day looks like you guys think - sell the lot... well I'll get rid of the body first (hopefully) then there will be a few more up!
 
I would say it very much depends on what mirrorless you have and what you shoot. For me I carried my mirrorless about with me far more often then my DSLR kit but some how still ended up with more keeper shots from my DSLR. That was until I got a Sony A7. Its a brilliant bit of kit and I use it for just about everything these days. I then even a A6000 would do the same for most people. However if you have a lesser spec mirrorless camera I suspect most people would like to having proper DSLR kit.
 
KryptoNeo said:
I'm having the same problem but in the opposite direction. I am currently using a Sony A6000 and I absolutely love it. But I've only had it 2 months and I'm noticing the lack long range lenses is becoming an issue for me. So I'm looking to go to a DSLR body
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On my A7 I got a LA-E4. This not only lets me run all A Mount lenses like Minolta and Sony DSLR bodies but also offers a huge upgrade on AF side of things. This is a bit more on the La-E4 http://www.kenrockwell.com/sony/la-ea4.htm you can also use the LA-E2 on your body to the same effect
 
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For me a big part of it is how I shoot (always handheld as I'm always out with the family) and that I got so used to just aching (despite BlackRapid and hand strap) at the end of the day and found that I just stopped taking it out at all, I then moved to mirrorless and the size and weight made me enjoy shooting again.

I did look at the A7 and it looks great but unless I'm mistaken its pretty much up there size wise with a DSLR and if I recall the non-adapted lens choice is quite limited isn't it?
 
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I did look at the A7 and it looks great but unless I'm mistaken its pretty much up there size wise with a DSLR and if I recall the non-adapted lens choice is quite limited isn't it?
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A7 series cameras are a lot smaller than a DSLR. Native lens choice is expanding so I suppose it depends what you want. You can also use oodles of different lenses via the appropriate adapter.

Here's mine with a Canon 5D and a Panasonic MFT G1. There's not much bulk difference between the A7 and G1 but the Canon DSLR is a behemoth next to them.



 
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As WoofWoof nicely illustrates the a7 is much smaller then DSLRs. It's about the same size as the A6000 apart from the top mounted viewfinder. If you are after super compact first but still SLResque performance the a6000 is probably the better option though I found the a7 a much nicer handling camera.

The FE format is relatively new but there is already a fair range of FE lenses in the wider end of things. You have 3 general walk about lenses, a nice wide zoom, 2 good primes and even a very nice telephoto zoom. It will not be long until other brands jump on board just like with the E mount. I tend to just the use Sonys native A mount adapter for bigger lenses. In effect A mount lenses are native Sony products that are intended to be used on these cameras.
 
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I stand corrected on the sizes, judging my this (link) its not as big as I'd though, especially given its a full frame and I tried to keep the lenses as close as possible.
 
I did, thats why I put the 2.8 (5.6 FF) on the E-M1, sadly there was nothing low enough on the Canon at that range to compare, which to my mind is where the NEX lenses look like they fall down - if you're toting full frame you really need both long lenses (over 200mm) for reach and larger apertures - 1.8 cuts it but the bulk of the lenses look to be in the 3.5+ range - sure there are a few 1.8 and 2.8s.

Shame really as it does look like the glass lets them down, still its a pretty young system so it may get there in time.
 
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Or if you play to the strength of the crop:

E-M10 + 100-300 (600mm FF) - threre is also a lighter 75-300 Olympus too.
A7 + 55-210mm (I couldn't find anything with longer reach to compare)
5D3 + Sigma 150-500

Link to compare sizes (link)
 
JohnN said:
Or if you play to the strength of the crop:

E-M10 + 100-300 (600mm FF) - threre is also a lighter 75-300 Olympus too.
A7 + 55-210mm (I couldn't find anything with longer reach to compare)
5D3 + Sigma 150-500

Link to compare sizes (link)
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Yes, lets play in favor of crop... :rolleyes:
1,365mm!
http://camerasize.com/compact/#521.35,571,ga,t

See what were achieving here, bigger sensor means bigger lens.
 
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lol, no, but it is a kit lens ;) (link)

I did put in a more realistic one on the M10 though.
 
BTW how do you find the A7?

With the A7 II having IBIS it really does look at attractive package, full frame, small body, smallish lenses - sure its expensive, but all full frames are.
 
JohnN said:
BTW how do you find the A7?

With the A7 II having IBIS it really does look at attractive package, full frame, small body, smallish lenses - sure its expensive, but all full frames are.
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I sold my a7 shortly after buying, arent enough native fast lenses and Ive had better sensor performance from other cameras, I switched to a XT1, which I much preferred but am now using a D750 which is surprisingly small/light with a couple G lenses and Id say its the best camera Ive used and Ive been through a lot incl all the compact systems.

The A7 is great if you dont mind manual focus and taking time with your shots, it still has to mature on the AF side IMO and the lenses will always be big due to sensor so its not going to be a compact system.
 
I couldn't live with full time manual focus, it just wouldn't suit me at all.

Interesting to see that after all the systems you've been through you've ended up with Nikon - did you start with them or move through Canon?
 
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I couldn't live with full time manual focus, it just wouldn't suit me at all.

Interesting to see that after all the systems you've been through you've ended up with Nikon - did you start with them or move through Canon?
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Have used, Nikon (APSC & FF), Sony (SLR, SLT, E & FE), Canon (FF), Olympus (M43), Panasonic (M43), Fuji (APSC). Been through all the big names with various models. IMO cost v performance the D750 is the best camera on the market.
 
Bloody hell and I thought I'd been through a few :)

I admit to being tempted by the new Nikon range but the weight of any DSLR just puts me off now, plus with the exception of the results from the 5D + 135L I'm getting close enough from the m43 for me.
 
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Bloody hell and I thought I'd been through a few :)

I admit to being tempted by the new Nikon range but the weight of any DSLR just puts me off now, plus with the exception of the results from the 5D + 135L I'm getting close enough from the m43 for me.
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Gotta be honest, look at the differences.

A D750 is 750g, a 50mm 1.8G is about 150g, thats 900g. Thats already 50g less than your 5d3 weighs body only.

Also factor in the D750 battery lasts 4 times as long as a A7 battery the difference in body weight then becomes similar, obviously the lenses are going to also weigh pretty much the same as they are both FF. I think an A7 is 420g, batteries are 80g each, so youre looking at about what the D750 weighs for a good days shooting.
 
Aye, I took a quick look at it on the comparing site and size\weight wise beats the 5D3 hands down, but size and weight is why I'm getting rid of the 5D3, I could use my 60D but I've found its not so much the size of the body its the lens that makes it hefty.
 
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