Shutter Replacement

Have you had to replace a shutter after a failure

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This question is just because I always have in the back of my mind how many actuations I have used from my *cough* 150,000 before my camera will self destruct :shrug: I was wondering in the big scheme of things if Nikon just tested a few different shutters and got bored when they reached 150,000. Or is it to persuade customers to be more wary of the second hand market and go for new.

So are you worried about your activation count? Have you hit an all time high with your Nikon/Canon but it's still going strong? The poll is to see if there is anyone at all out there in TP land that has had a shutter replaced because of a FAULT, not if you replaced it for peace of mind after hitting the magic number.
 
I can see your thinking - a bit like a camshaft belt failure except if the shutter 'goes' it won't cost any more than the shutter replacement. my D300 is on 3k so i'm ok for a few years and i've just had my cam belt done a month ago :D
Does anybody know the price of a shutter replacement ?
 
Don't worry about it. On average it may be 150k. In practise that means some will hit around 150000, some only 1500 and some may do 500k. It depends on the particular camera and the way it was assembled. Statistically, a camera at for example 10000 clicks is more likely to reach 150k, than a new one. This is well visualised by the "bathtub curve".
A camera that is used very infrequently is more likely to develop a fault due to rusting, accumulation of dust, sticking, etc - just look what T90 was like. Furthermore, bodies lose their value quite quickly, so you would be waisting resources by not using it.

Anyway stop thinking about it and enjoy the camera.
 
Graham00 said:
I can see your thinking - a bit like a camshaft belt failure except if the shutter 'goes' it won't cost any more than the shutter replacement. my D300 is on 3k so i'm ok for a few years and i've just had my cam belt done a month ago :D
Does anybody know the price of a shutter replacement ?
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For a D300 the part itself is, iirc, around £100-120, labour would probably double that for a replacement. The thing is by the time most D300s get anywhere near 150k (when they won't magically expire) they'll be worth two balloons and a blow at the ragman's trumpet, so it's hardly worth worrying about....
 
This is always in the back of my mind, especially as I now do quite a bit of time lapse video. Last night I took over 1200 photos just testing my new intervalometer so I'm thinking I may hit the magic number sooner than most.
 
200,000 on my old mk2n my mate bought it off me and it now stands at 254,000
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Richard
 
grey.squirrel said:
This is always in the back of my mind, especially as I now do quite a bit of time lapse video. Last night I took over 1200 photos just testing my new intervalometer so I'm thinking I may hit the magic number sooner than most.
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The 500d is "only" rated to 100,000 so, you've still got about another 3 months of life left in it :lol:
 
I'm not worried about it, if it breaks it breaks,

C'est la vie

:)
 
daugirdas said:
Anyway stop thinking about it and enjoy the camera.
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I'm not worried as such. I use my camera every day. But I bet we don't see many or any replacements by the time this poll fizzles out.. err tomorrow :lol:
 
any figure given will not be as close to the real number there will be a leeway set which will be a long way off any how. also I think it will depend on how you use your camera if you are in max burst mode all the time then this will put more strain on it then if not.
 
just did a quick google and found a DH2 with 1,283,000 actuations anyone beat that :lol:
 
My D2x required a new shutter box at 40,000 because that little sprung lever that opens the aperture diapram on D-type lenses had failed - it's a sealed unit so it all had to be done in one. £150 at Fixation, although the bummer for me was an additional £100 charge to get all the grips and sealing replaced because they have to remove all the grip rubber to do any work on that body. :(

Think mine was 'just one of those things' from being thrown around too much. Have total faith in both my D2Xs otherwise. Broke the hotshoe off one the other week after an almighty fall and the camera still works a treat, just can't accept a Speedlight.
 
daugirdas said:
Don't worry about it. On average it may be 150k. In practise that means some will hit around 150000, some only 1500 and some may do 500k. It depends on the particular camera and the way it was assembled. Statistically, a camera at for example 10000 clicks is more likely to reach 150k, than a new one. This is well visualised by the "bathtub curve".
A camera that is used very infrequently is more likely to develop a fault due to rusting, accumulation of dust, sticking, etc - just look what T90 was like. Furthermore, bodies lose their value quite quickly, so you would be waisting resources by not using it.

Anyway stop thinking about it and enjoy the camera.
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Ah the bathtub curve. Yes there is an argument that if something needs to be maintained, maintaining tooo often can cuase faults cos after every maintenance period effectively the bathtub curve starts again. As something approaches the end of it's life or goes beyond when it should have been maintained then the other end of curve kicks in.

Anyway I'll stop waffling. I worry about whether my shutter will one day just go quack quack oops, so I try and keep my spare to hand for that day, whether it be after 30k or 300k oe even 3,000k clicks. I'm gonnna run mine till it fails or I get a new camera.
 
Hundreds of people will leave them at the bottom of suitcases, take them out in pouring rain, drop them in toilets, drop them on hard floors, leave the caps off so 3 tonnes of dust can get in, all of which they're not designed for, and you're seriously worrying about pressing the shutter button?! :D

In other words no, I don't worry - I'd think most that go at a low number probably have some sort of fault that will be piked up long before, and of general people you never know how well they've been treated, I just use it and enjoy it :)
 
my olympus and lumix are going strong with their silent shutters...
 
daugirdas said:
Don't worry about it. On average it may be 150k. In practise that means some will hit around 150000, some only 1500 and some may do 500k. It depends on the particular camera and the way it was assembled. Statistically, a camera at for example 10000 clicks is more likely to reach 150k, than a new one. This is well visualised by the "bathtub curve".
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I call it the infant mortality rate effect, but realistically it's the same thing. Works for computer components and engines too.



Anyway stop thinking about it and enjoy the camera.
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Definitely... think about problems when they happen!
 
My 20D failed after 18months. When I checked back a conservative estimate put it at 150,000 shots. £200 later and it came back from fixation all clean and working.
Went at a race meeting, had been raining and windy all weekend. Bikes were going slowly and then my camera falls over. Was almost worth the 6 hour drive each way. :thumbsdown:

J
 
Mine's up to 35000... I do think about it from time to time... but it's a tool to be used...

one question that did occur to me.. does using slow shutter speeds ease the mechanism or cause them more strain ?? So for instance, if you're shooting 5 minute exposures in bulb mode.. is the wear the same as 1/4000 s exposures ? on the curtains I guess so, but what about the rest of the mechanism ??
 
I bought a 2nd hand 1Dmk2, with what might have been a high count, the previous owner couldnt guarantee what it was on, he assured me it had 'changed' from the real number because of some card swopping or other. Tbh I didnt really care, at the the high number I reckoned I probably had 2 years left and if it failed it was a bargain anyway. Now I'm getting a bit twichy as its exhibiting some strange effects with some cards sometimes, but if it fails I'll get it fixed, even at £200 I reckon its a bargain if it puts it back to virtually as new.
Use it, enjoy it, fix it if its worth it.

Matt
 
jgs001 said:
Mine's up to 35000... I do think about it from time to time... but it's a tool to be used...

one question that did occur to me.. does using slow shutter speeds ease the mechanism or cause them more strain ?? So for instance, if you're shooting 5 minute exposures in bulb mode.. is the wear the same as 1/4000 s exposures ? on the curtains I guess so, but what about the rest of the mechanism ??
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When they give the ratings I'm sure it's for fast shutter speeds so I imagine the strain is much less for long exposures.
 
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