Smart Telescopes for a Astro Newbie.

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After seeing the thread about the Dwarf II smart telescope the other day, i spent some time looking at Youtube reviews on the Dwarf II / Seestar S50 / Vaonis Vespera II
The Seestar looks decent but for a bit more money the Vaonis Vespera II looks to have superior image quality.
Currently i am not looking to spend hours post processing images etc, so happy to keep the stacked procecssed image that it produces.

Anyone use either the Vaonis Vespera / Vaonis Vespera II models at all ? or recommend another model of smart telescope

 
I’ve been looking at the Vaonis Vespera II as well, it interests me greatly ;)
 
Yes, just trying to justify it as its £1400 v the £500 of the S50.
Vespera mk1 is about £1200. so no real saving in real terms if you are going to spend that amount of money an extra £200 for the better rig makes sense.

Just like buying cameras, upping the budget brings better options to you
 
It's like Simon says above, you pay more you get better gear (in theory anyway). I was thinking about the Vaonis Vespera II myself but they are currently out of stock with the next batch coming in the July timeframe. They do expect you to pay now though if you want to go on the waiting list! There are some good YouTube comparison reviews out there.

It also depends on what you want to achieve. For sheer portability and rapid setup, the Dwarfe is the stand-out leader.
For quality of output then that depends. They are all good for bright Deep Sky Objects, and the Moon. They are both a waste of time for planets that's a whole different ballgame to get good images. The Dwarfe can also do panoramas which can be useful for things like Milky Way shots. For faint DSO then I am not sure yet will have to do more testing.

Even with astro kit costing £10,000 or more, some post-processing is always done to get the best results.
NASA do it on the James Webb images:)
 
thanks Nod, I am considering it but the mk2 model has the bigger sensor which obviously costs more gives better IQ from the reviews I have seen
 
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I see that the Vaonis Vespera II is now back in stock at Clifon Cameras, i am tempted due to the spec of the unit but the lack of basic accessories like a charging cable / tripod etc
Which are all chargeable extras seems a bit tight when you are spending that much money for the item.
And then still need to buy filters for the unit which are quite expensive.

I can see why the Seestar S50 at £500 is so popular.
 
I see that the Vaonis Vespera II is now back in stock at Clifon Cameras, i am tempted due to the spec of the unit but the lack of basic accessories like a charging cable / tripod etc
Which are all chargeable extras seems a bit tight when you are spending that much money for the item.
And then still need to buy filters for the unit which are quite expensive.

I can see why the Seestar S50 at £500 is so popular.
So are you going to get it?
 
Seriously considering it, like anythings tech I try and read reviews / watch videos etc.
Anyone on here got a Vespera?

Hard part is justifying it to myself, that it won’t sit on a shelf gathering dust a month or two after purchase. The Pro version at 2 1/2k is outside of my budget
 
I picked up the S50 and I have to say I like it's simplicity. Of course like any smart scope it's a bit limited in what it can do but it does that very well.

Sunspot shot from today, jpg that's been through my phone and pc so maybe not the best example.

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Looks like Dwarflabs are going to release a Dwarf 3 model the announcement is on the 30th May for anyone interested.
I will be keeping an eye out for it.
 
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