Sony Full-Frame "Line-up"

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Yes, a great choice us Sony users have :lol: The A850 or A900. Pretty much the same camera.

Has there been any news on a more professional body yet? I heard rumours of an A700 replacement but I'm still yet to hear anything since.

Sony seem keen on bringing out new, budget cameras. It seems that there's a new one every month. Yet they're still to invent a proper professional full frame body.

Does anyone else fail to see their business plan? They have some fantastic glass in their lineup, Carl Zeiss stuff that is absolutely amazing - then you're forced to stick it to an average body.
 
To be honest I don't see how the A900 isn't a proper professional body...
 
Average body?

I've read that the Sony FF offerings are very good indeed and then there's the in body IS which would be very interesting with some fast primes, and that's something that no other DSLR manufacturer offers.

PS. Looks like others are equally shocked!! :o)
 
thats why i changed from my 'professional' 5d to the 'amateur' sony a850. in body stabilisation is very handy and the lenses are pretty damn good too!
 
This is a hot topic amongst Sony users at the moment. The reality is that Sony's top end full frame models are lacking a few modern features such as liveview, and don't shoot particularly quickly. I can understand users wanting liveview and perhaps improved high ISO capability, but I believe the people wanting fast fps are more likely to be those waiting for an a700 crop camera replacement.

I guess we'll find out next year if the SLT-A77 fills that void (professional sports photographers, birders etc.).
 
manualfocus-g said:
The reality is that Sony's top end full frame models are lacking a few modern features such as liveview, and don't shoot particularly quickly.
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The A900 shoots at 5fps. There is exactly one other FF DSLR with a similar sensor (24MP - the same sensor in fact) that shoots FF at 5fps. The Nikon D3x, which costs three times as much. How fast do you want?
 
not all people want or need a camera capable of shooting fast fps, i certainly dont which is why i went for the a850 as 3fps is perfectly suited to what i shoot.

the live view would come in handy but i never used it on my 5d mk 2 so not something im really needing either.
 
bloody better not be the end but then again, i dont see me swapping bodies for a few years now, im perfectly happy with my camera and only thing i would like is some of those zeiss lenses!
 
Sorry, I can see how my post was taken wrongly.

Yes, the Sony FF are professional bodies, it's a jack-of-all-trades, master of none. The low light performance, when compared to it's Nikon/Canon equivalents isn't very good. They do seem like good cameras, but I'm wanting to push the boat out a little and go for a proper professional body, without jumping ship. Something similar to a 1d/d3 etc, but this option isn't available.
 
onefunkypenguin said:
bloody better not be the end but then again, i dont see me swapping bodies for a few years now, im perfectly happy with my camera and only thing i would like is some of those zeiss lenses!
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;) I went the other way and invested in glass rather than bodies. I'm reluctant to pay almost £2k for a body if there's new FF bodies in the pipe-line.

I'm yet to play with another 70-200 which beats the Sony 70-200 G lens. This is one serious bit of kit.

If there is, Sony seem to be keeping it really quiet.
 
daugirdas said:
One slight issue: both a900 and a850 are listed as discontinoued on Sony UK site. Are they bringing out any more or is that a premature end of Sony FF dSLR line?
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Just checked the UK Sony site and both listed as standard - no mention of discontinued?
 
i have some good glass, mainly the minolta lenses and especially the 85mm f1.4 minolta which i just love.

i would just love to spend a £1k on a lens but for me, its not just an option for the time being.
 
onomatopoeia said:
The A900 shoots at 5fps. There is exactly one other FF DSLR with a similar sensor (24MP - the same sensor in fact) that shoots FF at 5fps. The Nikon D3x, which costs three times as much. How fast do you want?
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I'm merely pointing out what others have said, if you read the rest of my post you would see my suggestion that these people should really be looking at the a700 replacement...

The a700 replacement is not here yet though, and I suspect it's these people that are looking for an upgrade and bemoaning the flagship's fps speed.

Anyway, as others have said, the a850 / a900 are already very good cameras! I considered getting one for the Steadyshot and resolution, but it can't accomodate all my manual lenses unfortunately so I went with Canon :)
 
daugirdas said:
One slight issue: both a900 and a850 are listed as discontinoued on Sony UK site. Are they bringing out any more or is that a premature end of Sony FF dSLR line?
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It seems very unlikely that Sony will abandon FF, given that they keep introducing new FF lenses (24/2 Zeiss imminent, 500/4 G on the way and others).

If they were going to abandon FF I would expect them to concentrate their efforts on crop only lenses.
 
Jaffster said:
Sorry, I can see how my post was taken wrongly.

Yes, the Sony FF are professional bodies, it's a jack-of-all-trades, master of none. The low light performance, when compared to it's Nikon/Canon equivalents isn't very good. They do seem like good cameras, but I'm wanting to push the boat out a little and go for a proper professional body, without jumping ship. Something similar to a 1d/d3 etc, but this option isn't available.
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I'm not really sure why those cameras need better high ISO performance anyway to be honest. With resolution heading towards MF territory I see the A900 as a camera for advertising type where light is generally in abundance along with the budget. The biggest group of people I hear bang on about high ISO is wedding photographers and I wonder just how many of them really need the best part of 25MP.
 
"Yes, the Sony FF are professional bodies, it's a jack-of-all-trades, master of none."

I'd argue that the Sony's are actually more focussed than some of the competition as they offer an excellent viewfinder and the controls and features required to enable excellent image quality whilst being free of features that some would say are irrelevancies.
 
Kev M said:
I'm not really sure why those cameras need better high ISO performance anyway to be honest. With resolution heading towards MF territory I see the A900 as a camera for advertising type where light is generally in abundance along with the budget. The biggest group of people I hear bang on about high ISO is wedding photographers and I wonder just how many of them really need the best part of 25MP.
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Wedding photographer here.

That's the thing though, look at the D3S. What, 12MP - Full frame. PERFECT wedding photography body. Stunning results at massive ISO settings. Same with some of the older 1d bodies.

Sony don't have an offering for this and I'm reluctant to jump ship considering the lenses that I've bought and I really do love owning a Sony.
 
Oh I see what you're getting at there, not so much an evolution of the A900 but a lower MP full frame for a different market.
 
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