The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

robj20 said:
I hope so, I love my 35 f2.8.
Took me a long time to decide so many options for 35 f1.2 or f1.4 lenses. But the GM seems overall the best when you take image quality, AF, size and weight into consideration. The Viltrox looked good also.
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There's something special in the 35mm GM rendering that appeals to me.
 
pmac said:
What will be the Size and weight though!
Just saw a reel about the sigma 28-45/1.8 and it was the size of the tamron 35-150/2-2.8.
These super fast zoom lenses are all good until you see the size and weight.
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Yeah for sure it will be big but it will weigh less than carrying the 35 f/1.4 on one body and the 50 f/1.2 on another as I do now.
 
snerkler said:
There's something special in the 35mm GM rendering that appeals to me.
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Do you think so?

Pretty much every wedding photographer tha shoots Sony has one and most dislike the rendering and SOOC colours. It’s probably the most gurned about lens in the system and most just have it over the other options because of the a.f performance.

The Viltrox 35 f/1.2 has much nicer colours and rendering but lacks the same a.f performance.
 
f/2.8 said:
Do you think so?

Pretty much every wedding photographer tha shoots Sony has one and most dislike the rendering and SOOC colours. It’s probably the most gurned about lens in the system and most just have it over the other options because of the a.f performance.

The Viltrox 35 f/1.2 has much nicer colours and rendering but lacks the same a.f performance.
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I've heard nothing but praise for it and it's rendering, however none of it's relevant as I like it (y)
 
nandbytes said:
I like the 35GM too but the new Sigma 35/1.2ii is calling my name :ROFLMAO:
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I did consider it but thought it would be too big and heavy as a lens I'd want to carry around all the time.
 
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ancient_mariner said:
I wish the Sigma 35 f1.2 mkI was as small and light as the sony 50 f1.2 (and had the same AF performance).
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Your wish has been answered with 2nd version :D

robj20 said:
I did consider it but thought it would be too big and heavy as a lens I'd want to carry around all the time.
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It's bigger for sure. That's also my main concern. Plus I've had 35GM since release and I am not keen on losing a ton of money buying another new lens and selling mine in used condition.
 
What advantages does the Sigma 35mm offer over the Sony GM?

Although the 40mm has taken over from everything for me I could go back to 35mm if there was a mini G 35mm of the same build and optical quality as the mini G's. I can't see myself getting one of these larger lenses though as I have the Sony 35mm f1.8 and Voigtlander 35mm f1.2 if I want a wider aperture,
 
woof woof said:
What advantages does the Sigma 35mm offer over the Sony GM?

Although the 40mm has taken over from everything for me I could go back to 35mm if there was a mini G 35mm of the same build and optical quality as the mini G's. I can't see myself getting one of these larger lenses though as I have the Sony 35mm f1.8 and Voigtlander 35mm f1.2 if I want a wider aperture,
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F1.2 vs. F1.4 :D
Purely bokeh whoring and GAS, nothing more :ROFLMAO:
 
Ah. In that case I wouldn't bother. For me these differences are only really visible in side by side comparisons of brokeh ball size.
 
woof woof said:
What advantages does the Sigma 35mm offer over the Sony GM?

Although the 40mm has taken over from everything for me I could go back to 35mm if there was a mini G 35mm of the same build and optical quality as the mini G's. I can't see myself getting one of these larger lenses though as I have the Sony 35mm f1.8 and Voigtlander 35mm f1.2 if I want a wider aperture,
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For me. None :ROFLMAO:
 
LeeRatters said:
For me. None :ROFLMAO:
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Back in my Canon DSLR days I bought a Sigma 30mm f1.4 because it was f1.4 and I'd never had one but since then every faster than f1.8 lens I've bought other than cheap film era lenses has been bought because I thought it was a nice lens and not because it was wider than f1.8. I think I've only struggled hand held in low light twice, once with the Sony 35mm f2.8 and once with the Pergear 35mm f1.4 but I don't believe that lens is f1.4, I don't know what it really is.

I can see the gas appeal though and good luck to those who want to swap an f1.4 for an f1.2.
 
woof woof said:
Back in my Canon DSLR days I bought a Sigma 30mm f1.4 because it was f1.4 and I'd never had one but since then every faster than f1.8 lens I've bought other than cheap film era lenses has been bought because I thought it was a nice lens and not because it was wider than f1.8. I think I've only struggled hand held in low light twice, once with the Sony 35mm f2.8 and once with the Pergear 35mm f1.4 but I don't believe that lens is f1.4, I don't know what it really is.

I can see the gas appeal though and good luck to those who want to swap an f1.4 for an f1.2.
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For me, it's been a mix of qualities. I've owned a Sony A mount 50 f1.4 for a long time, and although it has much to recommend it, optically its heavily flawed. I went straight for the 50 f1.2 because there's no graduation process and it's an obvious tool to use.
 
woof woof said:
Back in my Canon DSLR days I bought a Sigma 30mm f1.4 because it was f1.4 and I'd never had one but since then every faster than f1.8 lens I've bought other than cheap film era lenses has been bought because I thought it was a nice lens and not because it was wider than f1.8. I think I've only struggled hand held in low light twice, once with the Sony 35mm f2.8 and once with the Pergear 35mm f1.4 but I don't believe that lens is f1.4, I don't know what it really is.

I can see the gas appeal though and good luck to those who want to swap an f1.4 for an f1.2.
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For me, the 35GM is for the light gathering for night skies and subject separation and its performance wide open. . A Sigma f/1.2 wouldn't make any sense to swap to at all.
 
woof woof said:
Back in my Canon DSLR days I bought a Sigma 30mm f1.4 because it was f1.4 and I'd never had one but since then every faster than f1.8 lens I've bought other than cheap film era lenses has been bought because I thought it was a nice lens and not because it was wider than f1.8. I think I've only struggled hand held in low light twice, once with the Sony 35mm f2.8 and once with the Pergear 35mm f1.4 but I don't believe that lens is f1.4, I don't know what it really is.

I can see the gas appeal though and good luck to those who want to swap an f1.4 for an f1.2.
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indoors is certainly challenge with kids and such. normally i need to main at least 1/60s to avoid motion blur.

LeeRatters said:
For me, the 35GM is for the light gathering for night skies and subject separation and its performance wide open. . A Sigma f/1.2 wouldn't make any sense to swap to at all.
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actually night skies is the only reason i can see for the f1.2. the sigma coma is pretty well corrected too.
I don't think people would see the difference in subject separation unless comparing side by side as woof woof said.

ancient_mariner said:
For me, it's been a mix of qualities. I've owned a Sony A mount 50 f1.4 for a long time, and although it has much to recommend it, optically its heavily flawed. I went straight for the 50 f1.2 because there's no graduation process and it's an obvious tool to use.
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I had the 50mm f1.2 (think i may have sold it to you?). I really loved that lens just not so much a 50mm fan. Prefer a 35/85 combo.

I am thinking of swapping 20-70+50-300mm for the sigma 20-200mm and swap 35GM for sigma 35/1.2ii.
 
nandbytes said:
indoors is certainly challenge with kids and such. normally i need to main at least 1/60s to avoid motion blur.



actually night skies is the only reason i can see for the f1.2. the sigma coma is pretty well corrected too.
I don't think people would see the difference in subject separation unless comparing side by side as woof woof said.



I had the 50mm f1.2 (think i may have sold it to you?). I really loved that lens just not so much a 50mm fan. Prefer a 35/85 combo.

I am thinking of swapping 20-70+50-300mm for the sigma 20-200mm and swap 35GM for sigma 35/1.2ii.
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Yes, I have your old lens.
 
nandbytes said:
indoors is certainly challenge with kids and such. normally i need to main at least 1/60s to avoid motion blur.
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As I can't stop myself pixel peeping I'll be at 1/125 if at all possible for anything likely to move but for static stuff the electronic shutters of my A7III and A7cII allow double digit shutter speeds handheld and I do have a lot at 1/40 and there abouts.

Since I stopped shooting at gigs with ISO 1,600 film and a Nikon kit lens at f3.5 I've been spoilt for low light and todays kit and NR are very nice. I don't often take pictures in genuinely low light and when I do I'm conscious of the lack of depth wide open and will probably stop down a bit for depth if possible and accept the extra noise. When I have an f1.2/f1.4 lens on the camera I do usually take some pictures wide open because I can't stop myself :D

This is the only picture I remember taking in recent years and being disappointed with the size of the bokeh balls, f2.5 with the Sony 40mm but bokeh balls aren't something I'm usually too bothered about.

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f1.2 v f1.4 v f1.7 (the lens didn't have f1.8) I have to be honest and say that the differences in both dof and low light use are probably only going to matter to me when I'm having a really bad ocd day.

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Of these 3 I think I prefer the bokeh balls in the f1.7 picture as they're more defined. If I had a Sony 35 f1.4 I don't think I'd swap it for an f1.2 unless there was something else than the aperture making it better. I don't think I'd even bother with a compact 35mm f1.4 as I have the f1.8 and it's good enough for me but if Sony brought out a 50mm f1.4 only slightly bigger than the 55mm f1.8 I'd probably buy it because I've never really got used to the 55mm not being 50mm.

I'm still making my mind up about my Voigtlanders. I'm not using them so I should sell them but then I might miss them. I've probably taken more pictures with the Voigtlander 35mm f1.4 than any other lens I've had, I'd probably regret it if I sold it.
 
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woof woof said:
As I can't stop myself pixel peeping I'll be at 1/125 if at all possible for anything likely to move but for static stuff the electronic shutters of my A7III and A7cII allow double digit shutter speeds handheld and I do have a lot at 1/40 and there abouts.

Since I stopped shooting at gigs with ISO 1,600 film and a Nikon kit lens at f3.5 I've been spoilt for low light and todays kit and NR are very nice. I don't often take pictures in genuinely low light and when I do I'm conscious of the lack of depth wide open and will probably stop down a bit for depth if possible and accept the extra noise. When I have an f1.2/f1.4 lens on the camera I do usually take some pictures wide open because I can't stop myself :D

This is the only picture I remember taking in recent years and being disappointed with the size of the bokeh balls, f2.5 with the Sony 40mm but bokeh balls aren't something I'm usually too bothered about.

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f1.2 v f1.4 v f1.7 (the lens didn't have f1.8) I have to be honest and say that the differences in both dof and low light use are probably only going to matter to me when I'm having a really bad ocd day.

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Of these 3 I think I prefer the bokeh balls in the f1.7 picture as they're more defined. If I had a Sony 35 f1.4 I don't think I'd swap it for an f1.2 unless there was something else than the aperture making it better. I don't think I'd even bother with a compact 35mm f1.4 as I have the f1.8 and it's good enough for me but if Sony brought out a 50mm f1.4 only slightly bigger than the 55mm f1.8 I'd probably buy it because I've never really got used to the 55mm not being 50mm.

I'm still making my mind up about my Voigtlanders. I'm not using them so I should sell them but then I might miss them. I've probably taken more pictures with the Voigtlander 35mm f1.4 than any other lens I've had, I'd probably regret it if I sold it.
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Definitely f1.2 for me, however if you showed me these as standalone images I doubt I’d be able to tell you whether it was shot at f1.2 or f1.4 etc
 
woof woof said:
As I can't stop myself pixel peeping I'll be at 1/125 if at all possible for anything likely to move but for static stuff the electronic shutters of my A7III and A7cII allow double digit shutter speeds handheld and I do have a lot at 1/40 and there abouts.

Since I stopped shooting at gigs with ISO 1,600 film and a Nikon kit lens at f3.5 I've been spoilt for low light and todays kit and NR are very nice. I don't often take pictures in genuinely low light and when I do I'm conscious of the lack of depth wide open and will probably stop down a bit for depth if possible and accept the extra noise. When I have an f1.2/f1.4 lens on the camera I do usually take some pictures wide open because I can't stop myself :D

This is the only picture I remember taking in recent years and being disappointed with the size of the bokeh balls, f2.5 with the Sony 40mm but bokeh balls aren't something I'm usually too bothered about.

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f1.2 v f1.4 v f1.7 (the lens didn't have f1.8) I have to be honest and say that the differences in both dof and low light use are probably only going to matter to me when I'm having a really bad ocd day.

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Of these 3 I think I prefer the bokeh balls in the f1.7 picture as they're more defined. If I had a Sony 35 f1.4 I don't think I'd swap it for an f1.2 unless there was something else than the aperture making it better. I don't think I'd even bother with a compact 35mm f1.4 as I have the f1.8 and it's good enough for me but if Sony brought out a 50mm f1.4 only slightly bigger than the 55mm f1.8 I'd probably buy it because I've never really got used to the 55mm not being 50mm.

I'm still making my mind up about my Voigtlanders. I'm not using them so I should sell them but then I might miss them. I've probably taken more pictures with the Voigtlander 35mm f1.4 than any other lens I've had, I'd probably regret it if I sold it.
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on a general level even the f1.7 is pretty nice, most folks I share pictures with will be hard pressed to the tell the difference
f1.4 is helpful in low-light astro situations. As you mentioned you'll need a decent shutter speed for people.
but f1.2 is definitely mostly all GAS :D
 
One of the nice things about an f1.2 lens is taking pictures when it's dark. We went to a party in the spring, and I photographed the guests and general goings on. With no flash, the pictures kept the atmosphere, and I didn't need super-high ISO to manage.
 
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nandbytes said:
on a general level even the f1.7 is pretty nice, most folks I share pictures with will be hard pressed to the tell the difference
f1.4 is helpful in low-light astro situations. As you mentioned you'll need a decent shutter speed for people.
but f1.2 is definitely mostly all GAS :D
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Nothing wrong with that :D
 
Id have expected Sony GM lenses to not have something like this wrong with them. Normally dust doesn't really bother me but this seems excessive for brand new.

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The annoying thing is dust in lenses doesn't even make a difference to photos.
 
robj20 said:
The annoying thing is dust in lenses doesn't even make a difference to photos.
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As mentioned ruins the resale value
Though if you don't plan on selling for a while it's not an issue.
I'm sure there's plenty of dust in mine, I've had since release
 
A picture taken with 35GM

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nandbytes said:
As mentioned ruins the resale value
Though if you don't plan on selling for a while it's not an issue.
I'm sure there's plenty of dust in mine, I've had since release
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That's the dilemma, hassle of returning Vs just accepting it. If it was properly faulty that would be different.
I'll have a think about it, can't see me getting rid of this for a long time.
 
robj20 said:
Id have expected Sony GM lenses to not have something like this wrong with them. Normally dust doesn't really bother me but this seems excessive for brand new.

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robj20 said:
The annoying thing is dust in lenses doesn't even make a difference to photos.
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That's poor, I've never had anything like this with any Sony lens let alone a GM one. I know Anand has said they've experienced it but I wouldn't be happy. I'd personally return it as I know it'd bug me dven though it wouldn't affect images.
 
nandbytes said:
A picture taken with 35GM

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Nice picture, although the sky/clouds look as though excessive dehaze has been applied, unless it's just the rendering on here?
 
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