Looks too small to be FF, and wonder on FF what the distortion would be like?
Can only assume it will look more like a fisheye rather than UWA for landscapes etc.
Out of interest, anyone found a decent but cheap UWA landscape lens solution for FE? (Decent and cheap in the same sentence I know!).
Can be MF, adapted and not particularly fast
That's wat they call it now eh Trev?Oh...and playing with my Sony..
Do you live in a flat/appt?I miss having a garden.
More like itUploading a nice little test between the Samyang 35 1.4 and CZ Sony 35 1.4...
Because you would haveExpected it to be the first thing you did
No, couldnt guarantee it would get here by the weekend so allowing me to use current one then picking it up next week and will send new one straight out.Got your replacement d850 Toby?
Lol can't. Allergic to freshly cut grass due to heyfever. Always got my bro to mow down my old garden lol
Now I do.Will plan to get my own house soonDo you live in a flat/appt?
? D850 issues?No, couldnt guarantee it would get here by the weekend so allowing me to use current one then picking it up next week and will send new one straight out.
Looks like I got a lemon, documented in the D850 thread? D850 issues?
Damm okLooks like I got a lemon, documented in the D859 thread
If I take any landscapes I'm a bit dull, it's usually stock f8 - f11 everything in focus, so as long as reasonable sharp corner to corner as optimum aperture I'm ok; my concerns are CAs (although can be easily corrected), but also lens distortion.It’s manual focus which means it’s smaller than the AF options (and there’s a trend at the moment for huge lens=worth the money [emoji6]). As above, an alternative is the Samyang 14 (both AF and manual versions) or fisheye if you want wider.
I’m using a Nikon 20/3.5 as my wide option at the moment and it’s excellent and small. But I’ve also had a Samyang 14/2.8 (manual) that was sharp at 2.8 and just got better throughout...much bigger and heavier than the Nikon though and also needs a dedicated holder and larger filters.
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SAMYANG VS ZONY 35 1.4 TEST
Not entirely scientific and the framing isnt perfect but close, I went round with Samyang, then Zony so framed from memory, but a fairly good real world test if you shoot wide open.... otherwise..... go buy some slow kit lenses. HTH
Best way to do this is pop open Lightroom, import the files (they are untouched RAWs saved to JPG)
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Load Samyangs first, then Zony, then use... XY to compare
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Click on the same image from different lenses then click XY.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/87090421@N02/albums
The yellow flower was a misfocus (got to close) with the Samyang, but you can still check out the bokeh for comparison, I chose some very busy backgrounds. My take away is these are both great lenses with an excellent performance from the Samyang for the money, both pop nicely, nice colour, both smooth OOF (CZ better but not by much). CZ has better edge performance wide open, but then again...... its F1.4, I didn't do any stopped down stuff as didn't have time. Sony focuses a hair faster in AFS, both seem equally fast in AFC in good light, low light AF and Samyang tracking will be tested another day.
Enjoy! Forward any complaints to idontcare.com
If I take any landscapes I'm a bit dull, it's usually stock f8 - f11 everything in focus, so as long as reasonable sharp corner to corner as optimum aperture I'm ok; my concerns are CAs (although can be easily corrected), but also lens distortion.
Something like a Nikon 20mm sounds ok, but would like something more like 16-17mm ideally zoom to 25 kind of thing
SAMYANG VS ZONY 35 1.4 TEST
Not entirely scientific and the framing isnt perfect but close, I went round with Samyang, then Zony so framed from memory, but a fairly good real world test if you shoot wide open.... otherwise..... go buy some slow kit lenses. HTH
Best way to do this is pop open Lightroom, import the files (they are untouched RAWs saved to JPG)
View attachment 124720
Load Samyangs first, then Zony, then use... XY to compare
View attachment 124721
Click on the same image from different lenses then click XY.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/87090421@N02/albums
The yellow flower was a misfocus (got to close) with the Samyang, but you can still check out the bokeh for comparison, I chose some very busy backgrounds. My take away is these are both great lenses with an excellent performance from the Samyang for the money, both pop nicely, nice colour, both smooth OOF (CZ better but not by much). CZ has better edge performance wide open, but then again...... its F1.4, I didn't do any stopped down stuff as didn't have time. Sony focuses a hair faster in AFS, both seem equally fast in AFC in good light, low light AF and Samyang tracking will be tested another day.
Enjoy! Forward any complaints to idontcare.com
It's good to see my thoughts about the Samyang performance holding true with your testing. While it's never going to be 1.4, it's also considerably smaller, lighter and cheaper without massively compromising AF-S/AF-C performance so definitely punching above its' weight.
I think he has both 35/1.4 in both.
If I take any landscapes I'm a bit dull, it's usually stock f8 - f11 everything in focus, so as long as reasonable sharp corner to corner as optimum aperture I'm ok; my concerns are CAs (although can be easily corrected), but also lens distortion.
Something like a Nikon 20mm sounds ok, but would like something more like 16-17mm ideally zoom to 25 kind of thing
Looks like I got a lemon, documented in the D850 thread
He cant Simon because he hasnt got a Sony to stick with but i get your pointit's fate telling you to stick with Sony!
As SsSsSsSsSsnake says I don’t/didn’t have a Sony anywayit's fate telling you to stick with Sony!
I’ve had a lemon of a Sony in the past too. In fact I’ve had a lemon of an Olympus too, maybe someone’s trying to tell me somethingHe cant Simon because he hasnt got a Sony to stick with but i get your point
Dover sole to go with it?As SsSsSsSsSsnake says I don’t/didn’t have a Sony anyway
I’ve had a lemon of a Sony in the past too. In fact I’ve had a lemon of an Olympus too, maybe someone’s trying to tell me something
I received my Sony A7 iii on wednesday and managed to get out a walk yesterday to try it out.
I only have the standard 50mm f1.8 lens at the moment for it but i must confess i am completely Underwhelmed by it, so much so i switched to my D500 after and hour.
I have never came across a camera and lens that hunted so much in great light. The final straw was when i attempted to use the rear screen to take a picture of a flower at ground level only for it to spend around 2 minutes trying to focus on it and fail. (green grass, yellow flower)
There was even one occasion it focused on everything in the background and the subject in the green square was perfectly blurry. (and no it wasnt down to minimum focus distance as that was my first port of call.)
The EVF is very poor in my opinion to the only other mirrorless camera i have tried. (Fuji XT2)
10fps???? More like 7fps. Maybe it will achieve 10 in electronic shutter but its not even close in Mechanical. I only base that on having used a Nikon D4 and D500 for a while so there is no actual scientific proof, just my gut feeling that it seems a fair bit slower than either the D4 or D500.
I will spend more time over the weekend with it as there is always that courting period but at this moment in time i am not very impressed by it.
As SsSsSsSsSsnake says I don’t/didn’t have a Sony anyway
I’ve had a lemon of a Sony in the past too. In fact I’ve had a lemon of an Olympus too, maybe someone’s trying to tell me something
USER ERROR? lolAnd a lemon d750..... so thats every camera you've owned.... theres a common denominator there.
And a lemon d750..... so thats every camera you've owned.... theres a common denominator there.
USER ERROR? lol
I received my Sony A7 iii on wednesday and managed to get out a walk yesterday to try it out.
I only have the standard 50mm f1.8 lens at the moment for it but i must confess i am completely Underwhelmed by it, so much so i switched to my D500 after and hour.
I have never came across a camera and lens that hunted so much in great light. The final straw was when i attempted to use the rear screen to take a picture of a flower at ground level only for it to spend around 2 minutes trying to focus on it and fail. (green grass, yellow flower)
There was even one occasion it focused on everything in the background and the subject in the green square was perfectly blurry. (and no it wasnt down to minimum focus distance as that was my first port of call.)
The EVF is very poor in my opinion to the only other mirrorless camera i have tried. (Fuji XT2)
10fps???? More like 7fps. Maybe it will achieve 10 in electronic shutter but its not even close in Mechanical. I only base that on having used a Nikon D4 and D500 for a while so there is no actual scientific proof, just my gut feeling that it seems a fair bit slower than either the D4 or D500.
I will spend more time over the weekend with it as there is always that courting period but at this moment in time i am not very impressed by it.
Cameras?
More A7 and Voigtlander 35mm f1.4...
I like this lens, I wish it was sharp into the extreme corners but for a whole image no one is going to notice the 100 or so pixels in the very corners.