The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

I've not yet seen any downside to the IBIS in my Cii, but have you seen some in the III? (long exposures on a tripod maybe? I know older lens OIS systems could make images on a tripod worse)
 
the_accidental said:
I've not yet seen any downside to the IBIS in my Cii, but have you seen some in the III? (long exposures on a tripod maybe? I know older lens OIS systems could make images on a tripod worse)
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I've used the camera without IS but now I just leave it turned on unless using a tripod. On the few occasions I use a tripod I turn IS off.
 
the_accidental said:
Camera shake kinda makes sense, but is it practically an issue? Nothing like the mass of a mirror slapping about in an SLR. Though maybe on very high res sensors it matters more?

On the resale value, my view is I bought the camera to use it I’ll look after it but I’d not shy away from using it as intended. I tend not to shoot bursts and rack up big shutter counts though, if I shot sports I might have a different view. OTOH when I’ve used cameras to make money the depreciation of the camera has been insignificant.
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Don't get me wrong I'll use my camera as needed, but having owned the A9II and now the A1 I'm just used to the electronic shutter and prefer it, going back to mechanical does seem like taking a step backwards in all honesty. As I prefer electronic shutter anyway it then makes sense for me to use it where I can, and a positive outcome of this is less wear. For me when there's scene/shoot where there's no downsides of using the ES why wouldn't you?
woof woof said:
For lower shutter speeds I'd say the electronic shutter can help, yes. I have found that without IS I can use slower shutter speeds with my A7III and its electronic shutter than with my A7.
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I've only had shutter shock with Olympus, but again if you're shooting something where the ES won't negatively impact you image then why not use it and eliminate any possible risk (y)
 
snerkler said:
I can't find that on the A7RV :thinking:

Another 'quirk' I've found with the A7RV is that you can't have a simulated shutter sound when using the electronic shutter. A shutter sound is useful when shooting models etc so they know when to change/break pose.
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In newer firmware on A1 and I think A9iii
 
wookie6262 said:
1:1, 5:4, 4:3, 16:9, 1.91:1 and 2.35:1 I use 5:4 for shooting schools and use that to frame the subject and I know then at 7:5 I have room to work with
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Where in the menu is that, the only place I can find anything other than 3:2, 4:3, 16:9 and 1:1 is video?
 
the_accidental said:
I’d expect modern IBIS cameras to detect the stationery camera and adjust accordingly - they have the sensors for it. It probably makes no difference (though might for ois lenses still)
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I take the view that if the camera is on a tripod there will be no camera shake - so IBIS (and OSS) cannot make an improvement - there is, however, a small chance that electrical noise will cause the IBIS / OSS elements to move and degrade the image, so turning it off is minimising that risk.
 
@woof woof were you looking for an update to photoshop elements, or have I confused you with someone else? There is a new standalone (none subscription one) that's just been released, or at least I've just had the email about it ;)

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Mr Perceptive said:
What’s IBIS, none of my cameras have it - had it once on a Fuji X-H1 - completely overrated IMO :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
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Only on the A7Riii do I have any IBIS of some description. Like I said, never used it and I've had that body a few years I think now.

Even my Canon 5D2 and primes didn't have body or lens IS pre-2015.....

So it's not something I've even been used to in the past.
 
LeeRatters said:
Only on the A7Riii do I have any IBIS of some description. Like I said, never used it and I've had that body a few years I think now.

Even my Canon 5D2 and primes didn't have body or lens IS pre-2015.....

So it's not something I've even been used to in the past.
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I just leave mine on and forget about it, never had any negative effect and it helps slow shutter hand helds when I don’t have my tripod (y)
 
snerkler said:
@woof woof were you looking for an update to photoshop elements, or have I confused you with someone else? There is a new standalone (none subscription one) that's just been released, or at least I've just had the email about it ;)

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No, wasn't me. I've used photoshop for many years and I'm currently on PS2024 by subscription but I also use CS5 when I want to use Nik Filters as they don't work in PS2024.
 
LeeRatters said:
Only on the A7Riii do I have any IBIS of some description. Like I said, never used it and I've had that body a few years I think now.

Even my Canon 5D2 and primes didn't have body or lens IS pre-2015.....

So it's not something I've even been used to in the past.
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I have it turned on on all my cameras that have it. It's particularly useful when I'm using long lenses on MFT as in Aperture mode the camera will tend to select a fast shutter speed despite having IS in the lens and body. The answer is to switch to Manual and dial in a much lower shutter speed, subject depending. For example, do I need 1/320 and the ISO that goes with it? Can I manage with 1/80 at 400mm (this is on MFT) with a much lower ISO?
 
I have definitely noticed camera 'shake' when IBIS is on and using a tripod. It was on my A77ii and I simply couldn't work out why my tripod photos (especially Macro and definitely with longer exposures) were slightly less sharp than my handheld photos - totally puzzled me as it was the opposite of what I was expecting. Then I read up about IBIS, turned it off - and the problem went away. Don't know if it's the same on my A6600 as I always turn it off when using a tripod now.
 
Using the A7R V it’s made me realise how spoilt ‘we’ are these days. Shooting at 8fps feels extremely pedestrian (10 fps doesn’t show a real time view) and the blackout is rather distracting, however I coped perfectly well when I had my D750 (6.5fps with blackout) or the A7R IV which has the same continuous shooting as the A7R V :thinking:
 
LeeRatters said:
Another quick one if you don't mind guys.....

What would you do for indoor lighting at a registry office? I'm guessing silent shutter could have flickering/banding issues?

I never really shoot indoors :ROFLMAO:
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I wouldn’t use electronic shutter unless you’re using an A1 or A9II/III. Also, I wouldn’t risk the chance of rolling shutter either. If all Sony camera shutters are fairly similar they’re not too loud and annoying, much quieter than the clatter you got from DSLRs :lol:
 
Bodian said:
I have definitely noticed camera 'shake' when IBIS is on and using a tripod. It was on my A77ii and I simply couldn't work out why my tripod photos (especially Macro and definitely with longer exposures) were slightly less sharp than my handheld photos - totally puzzled me as it was the opposite of what I was expecting. Then I read up about IBIS, turned it off - and the problem went away. Don't know if it's the same on my A6600 as I always turn it off when using a tripod now.
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On older cameras it was pretty much a must to turn off IBIS for tripod work but modern cameras seem to be much cleverer and I’ve not seen a single issue from leaving IBIS on all the time.
 
snerkler said:
I wouldn’t use electronic shutter unless you’re using an A1 or A9II/III. Also, I wouldn’t risk the chance of rolling shutter either. If all Sony camera shutters are fairly similar they’re not too loud and annoying, much quieter than the clatter you got from DSLRs :LOL:
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EFCS is what I was thinking as the A7 will be that anyway. I pretty much shoot the A7Riii in silent though usually.

Or would you go both on fully mechanical?
 
LeeRatters said:
EFCS is what I was thinking as the A7 will be that anyway. I pretty much shoot the A7Riii in silent though usually.

Or would you go both on fully mechanical?
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I would go fully mechanical as the EFCS can still cause some banding, and it can impact the bokeh when using wide apertures, although the latter is more visible in combo with fast shutter speeds which would be unlikely indoors.
 
I've been looking for a manual 50mm f1.8 or f2 in Sony mount. I have the TTA 50mm f2 but it really isn't a good lens, the main issues for me being high vignetting, awful corners and colour cast at the edges but the colour cast could be worse on my A7 than newer camera and I should really try it on my A7III but it's the A7 I want to use it on. I have the Voigtlander 50mm f1.2 and f2 but they're big and heavy and I'd like something smaller and lighter. Anyway. As with manual 35mm lenses in Sony mount options are few and far between.

I did spot one but it has a clickless aperture and that rules it out for me. One or two others exist but are too big. There is the Loxia f2 but the more modern looking build puts me off as do the handling difficulties, there's nothing to grip when mounting it and taking it off again.

I still have film era 50's and 35's too but they need an adapter and when doing that I might as well use a Voigtlander. I've even hovered over the buy button for the 50mm f2.5 G as these little lenses do have a nice MF action but it's f2.5 and really I was looking for f1.8 or f2.

First world issues I suppose.
 
How about the Sigma iSeries 50mm F2? Fits a lot of your requirements although relatively heavy for the specs.
 
the_accidental said:
In covid times I took some pics and video for a family registry office ceremony. They were more than happy for me to have a quick look ahead of the ceremony to set things up.

You could do the same? 5 mins in the room will get you your exposures and some angles sorted out.
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I'm not too worried about the actual angles and exposure. Just didn't want to get on the PC and notice banding or flickering that I didn't notice at the time. It's not something I've had to think about before that's all.
 
LeeRatters said:
I'm not too worried about the actual angles and exposure. Just didn't want to get on the PC and notice banding or flickering that I didn't notice at the time. It's not something I've had to think about before that's all.
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It might be worth taking a couple of test shots in the room to check for banding, whilst far less likely you can still get it with mechanical shutter as well as hue shifts and/or exposure differences between the top and bottom of the frame, if this occurs you need to change the shutter speed to one that minimises the effect. The reason you can't just do this with electronic shutters is that they have a finite sensor scan time that you can't alter regardless of shutter speed changes.
 
Weird 'anomoly' with my A7RV files, if I shoot in crop (APS-C) mode Mac preview can't open the files and finder does not show the image in the thumbnail, preview has no issue opening the files shot in full frame and finder also shows the image in the thumbnail with these. Lightroom has no issue with them, but you can't see them in preview/finder to know which files you're transferring off the card. Has anyone else found this and know of a solution?

I'm running Mac OS Ventura 13.7
 
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snerkler said:
Weird 'anomoly' with my A7RV files, if I shoot in crop (APS-C) mode Mac preview can't open the files and finder does not show the image in the thumbnail, preview has no issue opening the files shot in full frame and finder also shows the image in the thumbnail with these. Lightroom has no issue with them, but you can't see them in preview/finder to know which files you're transferring off the card. Has anyone else found this and know of a solution?

I'm running Mac OS Ventura 13.7
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Throw your mac in the bin
 
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