The Vintage + Classic Adapted Glass Thread

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I don't have an X-T2 yet, but after I buy that an an M adaptor (soon!) the first lens I'm going to put on it is my Voigtlander 40mm f/1.4 Nokton. I use it all the time on my Bessa R3a film rangefinder and I absolutely love it, so I'm looking forward to using it on a digital system too
 
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A little more testing on the Vivitar 200 3.5. I was struggling with it shooting through the window facing harsh sky behind the trees, so went into the garden and shot the feeder from the other side. Here's examples at f/3.5, F4 and f/5.6. You can see it significantly improves. 3.5 isn't suitable for this type of shot, but might well be interesting for more artsy images :)

f/3.5, 1/500th ISO 800
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I was just messing about with crops on the last, but you get the idea - 5.6 is a lot sharper for this kind of thing, and you still get nice soft backdrop because of the FL, and I got close as I could without scaring the bird away. The settings are not the same either, these just happened to be the samples I chose - or more so the ones where the bird was facing this way, it hid behind the other side of the feeder mostly - anyone who's ever shot garden birds will know that one :D
 

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There used to be a thread like this on Fred Miranda, but I haven't looked in there for years. I sometimes use my old, manual, Nikkor lenses on my 30D with adapters and they give excellent results, but focusing is a pain with the dim little viewfinder, and I always get the sense that they feel they're slumming it...:D
 
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There used to be a thread like this on Fred Miranda, but I haven't looked in there for years. I sometimes use my old, manual, Nikkor lenses on my 30D with adapters and they give excellent results, but focusing is a pain with the dim little viewfinder, and I always get the sense that they feel they're slumming it...:D
There's a whole section dedicated to Adapted lenses in general on another popular forum, where I got the idea in a way. Haven't been to FM forums in years here either, completely forgot about it

ML cameras make manual focusing easier than ever, bright and clear evf, focus peaking, multi-level zoom focus etc
 
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A little more testing on the Vivitar 200 3.5. I was struggling with it shooting through the window facing harsh sky behind the trees, so went into the garden and shot the feeder from the other side. Here's examples at f/3.5, F4 and f/5.6. You can see it significantly improves. 3.5 isn't suitable for this type of shot, but might well be interesting for more artsy images :)

f/3.5, 1/500th ISO 800
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F4, 1/500 ISO 1250
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F5.6, 1/250, ISO 640
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I was just messing about with crops on the last, but you get the idea - 5.6 is a lot sharper for this kind of thing, and you still get nice soft backdrop because of the FL, and I got close as I could without scaring the bird away. The settings are not the same either, these just happened to be the samples I chose - or more so the ones where the bird was facing this way, it hid behind the other side of the feeder mostly - anyone who's ever shot garden birds will know that one :D
I think you (and the lens) did well with these Keith, the last one is showing some really good feather detail. Not bad for an ‘old lens’ that most people would chuck in the bin or charity shop.

I managed to bag another Helios today, a 44M-6 this time with 3 adaptors ( inc FujiX which I use) and a filter for £21. I’m getting addicted to these old beauties so I’ll have to be careful or I’ll explode with all this GAS!
I’ve got my eye on a couple more lenses as well, still it’s not like I’m spending a fortune and they’re works of art if nothing else imo.
 
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I think you (and the lens) did well with these Keith, the last one is showing some really good feather detail. Not bad for an ‘old lens’ that most people would chuck in the bin or charity shop.

I managed to bag another Helios today, a 44M-6 this time with 3 adaptors ( inc FujiX which I use) and a filter for £21. I’m getting addicted to these old beauties so I’ll have to be careful or I’ll explode with all this GAS!
I’ve got my eye on a couple more lenses as well, still it’s not like I’m spending a fortune and they’re works of art if nothing else imo.

Can't see anyone throwing this lens in the bin, if nothing else it'd make a damn good weapon! :D This one is also in very nice condition, I imagine non-photography folk would think it was worth a lot more. I've had people ask me about some of the old glass I've owned "ooh, that must have cost a lot?" - y'know, the kind who think everything old is an antique and worth a small fortune

Where are you getting these deals? locally or good timing on ebay? I never come across such bargains. Though I did get the Vivitar for £22, more like 35 with p&p but still not too shabby. Mostly I end up paying the higher value on these things. I see some of the same on ebay now for £50+
 
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Can't see anyone throwing this lens in the bin, if nothing else it'd make a damn good weapon! :D This one is also in very nice condition, I imagine non-photography folk would think it was worth a lot more. I've had people ask me about some of the old glass I've owned "ooh, that must have cost a lot?" - y'know, the kind who think everything old is an antique and worth a small fortune

Where are you getting these deals? locally or good timing on ebay? I never come across such bargains. Though I did get the Vivitar for £22, more like 35 with p&p but still not too shabby. Mostly I end up paying the higher value on these things. I see some of the same on ebay now for £50+
Yeah I know what you mean about anything old must be insanely valuable, that is until they try and sell it!
I got lucky with the latest one on Ebay this afternoon, put in a late bid and couldn’t believe it to be honest when it ran down with no additional bids.
I have paid more for some of my other purchases although last nights was also a pretty good deal.
 
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I don't have an X-T2 yet, but after I buy that an an M adaptor (soon!) the first lens I'm going to put on it is my Voigtlander 40mm f/1.4 Nokton. I use it all the time on my Bessa R3a film rangefinder and I absolutely love it, so I'm looking forward to using it on a digital system too
By far my most favourite & most used lens on the A7 (y)

EDIT - @Carl Hall - I've a Fuji > Leica M adapter here. I bought it when I gave Fuji a try a year or two ago but I don't think I ever used it. PM me if interested.
 
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The Voigtländer 40mm f/1.4 isn't really vintage, but it's close enough I guess. But then again, what is 'vintage'? Classic might have been a better term perhaps?

I wonder should we open up the thread a little more to include more modern adapted glass?

Any sample images lads? I wouldn't mind one, but don't know if I'd be willing to pay the odds. I have eyed up the much more affordable Konica 40mm 1.8 though
 
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The Voigtländer 40mm f/1.4 isn't really vintage, but it's close enough I guess. Any sample images lads? I wouldn't mind one, but don't know if I'd be willing to pay the odds. I have eyed up the much more affordable Konica 40mm 1.8 though
I'm actually waiting for the 40mm f/1.2 to be back in stock in E mount to give that a try!!!


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Those are beauties! My Uncle had that car when I was a kid! :D I used to ask for the keys so I could pretend I was driving when he'd call :D
:D:D I've had it since 1996 - Back when I was more of a kid myself :eek::D

Love the shot in Bath - really nice filmic look to all of your pics here.

Plus that part of Bath is one of my favourites with the giant tree and Sally Lunn buns!!!
Thank you. Bath is beautiful. Really enjoy the odd wander around. Missed the focus a bit on that one (well, I focused at f/1.4 & then stopped down a little which can give focus shift) - Still one of my favourites though.
 
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By far my most favourite & most used lens on the A7 (y)

EDIT - @Carl Hall - I've a Fuji > Leica M adapter here. I bought it when I gave Fuji a try a year or two ago but I don't think I ever used it. PM me if interested.
Ahh damn, I bought an X-T2 and the M adaptor yesterday after I got home from work. Thanks anyway :) Looking forward to trying the Voigtlander, the photos you posted are awesome!

The Voigtländer 40mm f/1.4 isn't really vintage, but it's close enough I guess. But then again, what is 'vintage'? Classic might have been a better term perhaps?

I wonder should we open up the thread a little more to include more modern adapted glass?

Any sample images lads? I wouldn't mind one, but don't know if I'd be willing to pay the odds. I have eyed up the much more affordable Konica 40mm 1.8 though
Hmm yeah fair point! I think it was introduced in 2004 so it's not really that old. I think I just considered it vintage because it's a manual focus lens made for film cameras.

Also the lens is called a Nokton Classic so if you change the thread to classic lenses then it fits perfectly :LOL: :p
 
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Ahh damn, I bought an X-T2 and the M adaptor yesterday after I got home from work. Thanks anyway :) Looking forward to trying the Voigtlander, the photos you posted are awesome!



Hmm yeah fair point! I think it was introduced in 2004 so it's not really that old. I think I just considered it vintage because it's a manual focus lens made for film cameras.

Also the lens is called a Nokton Classic so if you change the thread to classic lenses then it fits perfectly :LOL: :p

Ha, I will actually add in classic, should have done to begin with. I wasn't nit-picking, it's hard to really say what exactly 'vintage' is in terms of lenses, do we say over 20, 30 or 40 years old? Classic lenses broadens the spectrum I think :)
 
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I have tested out a Pentax Super Takumar 55mm f2 on my Fuju XE2

I took three shots in aperture priority with the following results.
The first shot at f2 was definitely soft but with a beautifully even bokeh.
The second at f5.6 was sharp also with nice progressive bokeh
The third at f16 had a much extended depth of field but diffraction had started to soften the finest details.

I then fused all three in TuFuse Pro which selects the best pixel to use to create the final image. Though the f2 shot contributed nothing to the exercise, the resultant fusion was an improvement on both the f5.6 and f16 shots but is only of academic interest.

conclusion...
The Super Tukumar 55mm f2 produced a sharp very pleasant image with great smoothness, and very unlike the critical hard crispness of a digital generation image. It would perhaps make an excellent portrait lens for use on a digital camera.



All the images were unsharpened and unadjusted processed from raw. Red arrow shows focus point.
These are a crops at 100% slightly downsized to comply with image size rules.


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no 3 f16
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I have tested out a Pentax Super Takumar 55mm f2 on my Fuju XE2

I took three shots in aperture priority with the following results.
The first shot at f2 was definitely soft but with a beautifully even bokeh.
The second at f5.6 was sharp also with nice progressive bokeh
The third at f16 had a much extended depth of field but diffraction had started to soften the finest details.

I then fused all three in TuFuse Pro which selects the best pixel to use to create the final image. Though the f2 shot contributed nothing to the exercise, the resultant fusion was an improvement on both the f5.6 and f16 shots but is only of academic interest.

conclusion...
The Super Tukumar 55mm f2 produced a sharp very pleasant image with great smoothness, and very unlike the critical hard crispness of a digital generation image. It would perhaps make an excellent portrait lens for use on a digital camera.



All the images were unsharpened and unadjusted processed from raw. Red arrow shows focus point.
These are a crops at 100% slightly downsized to comply with image size rules.


no 1 f2
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no 2 f5.6
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no 3 f16
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no 4 F2-F16 fused
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Certainly looks like a keeper. I agree that some of the better old MF lenses are better suited to portraiture than clinical, overly sharp modern lenses. Especially when photographing women who will forever ask if you 'soften' their face in photoshop :D
 
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Certainly looks like a keeper. I agree that some of the better old MF lenses are better suited to portraiture than clinical, overly sharp modern lenses. Especially when photographing women who will forever ask if you 'soften' their face in photoshop :D
I had a really nice Canon 135 2.8 SF (Soft Focus) EF Mount lens and I'm guessing it was based on an old design, I think I lent it to my son who thinks it's in his loft.....hmmm. I had a 6x6 Yashicamat that had a lovely lens for female portraiture, there's certainly something nice about some older lenses for certain applications.
 
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Ahh damn, I bought an X-T2 and the M adaptor yesterday after I got home from work. Thanks anyway :) Looking forward to trying the Voigtlander, the photos you posted are awesome!
Thank you. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I know you'll have a slightly slimmer field of view but that should cut you off the smeary corners that sometimes happens.

I only thought of it because I was having a tidy up yesterday & came across the adapter & a few other things I need to sell on at some point.
 
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As a film photographer, this thread is really enjoyable but also very frustrating... you guys are (part of) the reasons why the lenses I'm still looking for have got so much more expensive over the past few years! :D
 
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As a film photographer, this thread is really enjoyable but also very frustrating... you guys are (part of) the reasons why the lenses I'm still looking for have got so much more expensive over the past few years! :D
But we are also (part of) the reason that your lens collection is much more valuable now. :D

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As a film photographer, this thread is really enjoyable but also very frustrating... you guys are (part of) the reasons why the lenses I'm still looking for have got so much more expensive over the past few years! :D
Well, not so much as trendy hipster photographers :D I've been using old vintage lenses for over 10 years, had MF vivitar lenses on my old D200 and D90 :) Started using them because they were even cheaper back then - wasn't such a trend. I think it's a good thing in every other way though. It brings the creativity out in photographers, slows them down, forces them to think more about what they're shooting, not exactly like film but better than machine gun fire hope-for-the-best we see many beginners do
 
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Prices may have risen but if you're looking at mass market lenses in the 24-135 sort of range they're still relatively cheap with a few notable exceptions like rarer wider aperture versions or rarer focal lengths. For example I've seen some wider lenses go for questionable money and some 40mm's too.

Keep away from the rare stuff and go for a 28 or 35mm, maybe a 50mm and an 85mm or cheaper still a 135mm and you wont have to spend a lot even now especially if you're willing to go for third party lenses.
 
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Prices may have risen but if you're looking at mass market lenses in the 24-135 sort of range they're still relatively cheap with a few notable exceptions like rarer wider aperture versions or rarer focal lengths. For example I've seen some wider lenses go for questionable money and some 40mm's too.

Keep away from the rare stuff and go for a 28 or 35mm, maybe a 50mm and an 85mm or cheaper still a 135mm and you wont have to spend a lot even now especially if you're willing to go for third party lenses.
I lost quite a lot on an 85mm f/2 Pentax-M lens that developed a lazy shutter, two trips to a repairer didn't cure it, and eventually had to sell it as spares or repair. I did get some nice images while it was working, though. Now looks like around £200 to get a replacement (or a Tamron 90 mm). :(
 
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Not the fairest on the lens to test it out on such a grim mucky day, I know even my old Pany 100-300 used to struggle in crappy light like this, also it's been a while and my technique sucks atm, but here's an initial couple of testers with the Vivitar 200mm f/3.5 [as shown in the OP]

Both at f/5.6 I believe, the first at 1600 ISO 1/400th, the second at ISO 400 1/125th ... it's down to what you can get away with really as the light keeps changing.

These were shot through the kitchen window and both are cropped a bit. Very little PP, bump of contrast [I think almost all older lenses require this] tiny bit of NR and WB adjustment

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This isn't really vintage as the lens is only about 11 years old but my Pentax K/DA - EOS-M adapter arrived from China today so I thought I would give it a quick try.

There are ring adapters that will click into place on the Pentax lens and then you can mount it on the EOS adapter and then the M camera but they don't allow you to change the aperture on newer lenses that don't have an A ring and also I have found then to be a bit flakey when trying to get them off the lens (think plyers). So anyway, I saw this one on Ebay that connects the lens and camera directly and also has a built in aperture ring and I have to say it works very well, the only slight niggles are that the ring turns smoothly rather than clicks and also the lens mounts upside down (which REALLY niggles me).

Anyway, M5 with Pentax DA 70mm f/2.4 shot wide open ... I so much prefer mirrorless where manual focus is necessary.


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This isn't really vintage as the lens is only about 11 years old but my Pentax K/DA - EOS-M adapter arrived from China today so I thought I would give it a quick try.

There are ring adapters that will click into place on the Pentax lens and then you can mount it on the EOS adapter and then the M camera but they don't allow you to change the aperture on newer lenses that don't have an A ring and also I have found then to be a bit flakey when trying to get them off the lens (think plyers). So anyway, I saw this one on Ebay that connects the lens and camera directly and also has a built in aperture ring and I have to say it works very well, the only slight niggles are that the ring turns smoothly rather than clicks and also the lens mounts upside down (which REALLY niggles me).

Anyway, M5 with Pentax DA 70mm f/2.4 shot wide open ... I so much prefer mirrorless where manual focus is necessary.


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That is a tasty looking lens, amazing how they managed to create a fast-ish 70mm so dinky!
 
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That is a tasty looking lens, amazing how they managed to create a fast-ish 70mm so dinky!
This is the thing that really annoys me with Pentax. They do a 15mm, 21mm, 35mm macro, 40mm and 70mm for a crop body that are fantastic quality and all much the same size. Mount them on a small compact crop mirrorless body about the same size as the M5 and they would have a sure fire hit on their hands.

Lack of cash flow I guess.
 
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A couple of sort of abstract ones.

Driftwood, Minolta Rokkor 50mm f1.2.

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Something warm on a cold day.

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Canon FD 85mm f1.8.

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Now that's my kinda thing, very nice :)

This is the thing that really annoys me with Pentax. They do a 15mm, 21mm, 35mm macro, 40mm and 70mm for a crop body that are fantastic quality and all much the same size. Mount them on a small compact crop mirrorless body about the same size as the M5 and they would have a sure fire hit on their hands.

Lack of cash flow I guess.
I've often wondered this, why Pentax are so quiet, why they haven't so much as uttered a peep with all the ML/compact system releases past few years. I'm sure many a Pentax user that is feeling a bit neglected would adore them all over again if they brought out their own small ML body, like you say, they have the lenses for it already! A simple AF adapter to boot and you're laughing
 
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Up ye get!

A few randoms using the Vivitar 200mm

Neighbour's back yard tree, not sure if crab apples or what, but the birds seem to like them
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My wind chime that is constantly blowing off the tree, this isn't where it usually lives, got a bird feeder there now
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Didn't nail this, but sometimes it's not about sharpness, more about the overall image, I love this sparrow's expression, with the nut hanging to one side, staring me out of it, with that "gonna do something about it?" look
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LCE have got one listed .... ;) :p
They also have a 35mm f2.5 color skopar. I had one years ago, the MC version, and I sooooo regret selling it and I've wanted to replace it ever since but really I don't need one as I have the e mount 35mm f1.4, a Minolta f1.8 and FD, Rokkor and Zuiko f2.8's. I still want a color skopar though.
 
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