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I just got back from my little cousins nativity play... before i even turned the camera on, i was told that i couldnt take pictures of other people kids without written consent, which in itself is hard because its a nitivity play...... Then i was told that if they were put on social networking sites it is classed as child abuse.

I ignored everything i was told because i knew the other parents wanted some good pictures as they know me. But this is starting to become a little ridiculous, im only young(ish) myself and already its getting out of control how little you can do anymore... :bang:
 
The school principal. I attended the school just before going to college and he haaaattteteeesss me, but he was explaining this to all the parents. Nutters i tell you this is all becoming too much when your scared of getting sued everytime you press your shutter.

As for facebook i know its absolutly ridiculous but i still laughed in his big ugly face :D
 
I am sorry but I agree with this stance.

Imagine it was your child in the play and you had not given consent for your child to be photographed but someone still took pictures of the play which happenned to show them in them, would you not be a little miffed!!

Having had the same trouble at my own childrens nativity play, it just took a little common sense to understand why some parents do not give consent and as they are in the same play, how can you say which child has and hasnt got consent. How do they know you wont take a picture of Billy for example?
 
It's all down to a climate of fear whipped up by the media, children can't be allowed outside to play in case they are abducted, there are no longer winners and losers in school games, in case the losers feel inferior.

The quality of education decreases every year, yet the number of students attaining A grades increases.

It makes me wonder how the generation that are in school just now will cope in the real world......
 
I wouldnt be miffed because its CRAZY.... What do i care if your child is in my picture... im just snapping a shot of what i consider a moment worth photographing if the child im shooting is in it thats all i care about. I dont give two poos about the other children but im not going to selectivly wait until their all out of the shot to press the shutter
 
Dom_Cabarete said:
I wouldnt be miffed because its CRAZY.... What do i care if your child is in my picture... im just snapping a shot of what i consider a moment worth photographing if the child im shooting is in it thats all i care about. I dont give two poos about the other children but im not going to selectivly wait until their all out of the shot to press the shutter
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Good old fashion common sense ( something thats sadly very rare at the moment).
 
It's a product of the paranoid, litigious society in which we live. But then again, our parents and their parents and so forth were all saying that education is going to hell in a handbasket. I don't know about you, but I turned out alright. And I'm sure someone got pictures of me without my permission.
 
Double_Agent said:
I am sorry but I agree with this stance.

Imagine it was your child in the play and you had not given consent for your child to be photographed but someone still took pictures of the play which happenned to show them in them, would you not be a little miffed!!

Having had the same trouble at my own childrens nativity play, it just took a little common sense to understand why some parents do not give consent and as they are in the same play, how can you say which child has and hasnt got consent. How do they know you wont take a picture of Billy for example?
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Please tell me this is a sarcastic post and you just forgot to add the smileys?

Seriously, I was in school plays as a kid, parents took photos of the plays, I am sure I was some of them, it honestly did me no harm!
 
THankyou... people have been telling me that "you need to see it from their point of view" all day long, and i dont understand why you would even consider that train of thought...
 
I think its a disgrace that you cant shoot YOUR child in their school play. There has to be sensible ways around this. I mean your child is in the play, its not like your a friend of the samily or anything like that, its your bloody child!

This country is going down hill fast and its only going to get worse!
 
Double_Agent said:
I am sorry but I agree with this stance.

Imagine it was your child in the play and you had not given consent for your child to be photographed but someone still took pictures of the play which happenned to show them in them, would you not be a little miffed!!
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No I wouldn't.
If Im allowing them to take part in a nativity play with other children, then I expect them to be photographed by other people.
If I didn't want that to happen, I would expect to be told to remove my child from the nativity.
 
Double_Agent said:
I am sorry but I agree with this stance.

Imagine it was your child in the play and you had not given consent for your child to be photographed but someone still took pictures of the play which happenned to show them in them, would you not be a little miffed!!

Having had the same trouble at my own childrens nativity play, it just took a little common sense to understand why some parents do not give consent and as they are in the same play, how can you say which child has and hasnt got consent. How do they know you wont take a picture of Billy for example?
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i take it your child doesnt go out much avoiding all them cctv cameras and the likes???

cant see the problem myself, they are fully clothed and cant be used for anything other than home snaps anyway
 
Agreed...and my comment was about THIS COUNTRY, but where I grew up in the US things are even worse. You probably need written permission from every child's parent to step on the campus with a camera...
 
Marcel said:
No I wouldn't.
If Im allowing them to take part in a nativity play with other children, then I expect them to be photographed by other people.
If I didn't want that to happen, I would expect to be told to remove my child from the nativity.
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:clap:
 
You should have told him that as a representative of the local council (and employed by them), that them giving out seriously incorrect and possibly dangerous legal advice would be frowned upon by his employers.
 
i would have but i just laughed at him instead...
 
Marcel said:
No I wouldn't.
If Im allowing them to take part in a nativity play with other children, then I expect them to be photographed by other people.
If I didn't want that to happen, I would expect to be told to remove my child from the nativity.
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exactly if they dont want there child photographed then dont let them take part has everyone has to miss out on the memories etc just cus they dont want cameras

what about when a child gets older and there no photos etc off the stuff they did at school??
 
i can see that it must be hard for him as everyone has to have their say....BUT its the institutions that make the rules and if they stuck by the fact that its a free country and i can take a picture of watever i want in a public place.
Than the few that oppose this will have no choice but conform and put up...
 
My son is only 12 weeks old and nobody will stop me taking photos of him at any time during hisyoung life, unless they want a black eye. Who are they to dictate to others.
 
I posted some schools cross country shots on another forum and was told by one member that I should be careful were I post such images on the internet :shrug: as they were all shot on a public park I could not see a problem, if they had been on school property I would have sought permission first.
 
my littles one school has reversed it, you have to let them know if you dont want there photo taking, so far noone has objected. seems to work
 
My son was a cute kid as a young child, and quite often other parents at playgroup or parks would ask to take a pic of him having fun - fine I said - proudly

And why not be proud? That the person taking the shot 'could' be a perv and find a clothed fun-loving kid sexy is nuts IMO

The VAST majority of us love kids (in the right way) so as photographers we ought to love Shooting them too - as I do. I also often compliment people on having cute kids, not as a marketing exercise, but because they are cute

If some perv is that desperate for a shot of kids, I suspect they'd rather go stand outside of school and shoot from a secretive position, or use the even more obvious internet - not stand up in a hall with 200 parents and do it - FFS

DD
 
Marcel said:
No I wouldn't.
If Im allowing them to take part in a nativity play with other children, then I expect them to be photographed by other people.
If I didn't want that to happen, I would expect to be told to remove my child from the nativity.
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I totally agree with this.

I've got 2 absoltutely gorgeous little girls and while i do worry about their safety in this day and age, there has to be some common sense.

I totally understand there will be some parents who for whatever reason legal or personal may not want their childs photo taken. In these instances i feel it is the parents responsibility to discuss it with the teacher and to come to a solution but for THEIR CHILD only.

The trouble with this kind of ruling is where do you draw the line? which is safer allowing you child to be photographed in a nativity by other parents or letting them play in their swim suit on a beach with family??? I'm sure all parents do the second...
 
i will tell you right know that unless totally necessary im not asking anyone permission to use my camera in public...
 
Double_Agent said:
I am sorry but I agree with this stance.

Imagine it was your child in the play and you had not given consent for your child to be photographed but someone still took pictures of the play which happenned to show them in them, would you not be a little miffed!!

Having had the same trouble at my own childrens nativity play, it just took a little common sense to understand why some parents do not give consent and as they are in the same play, how can you say which child has and hasnt got consent. How do they know you wont take a picture of Billy for example?
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This really make my blood boil :bang::bang::bang:

I dont give a fig (best word i could think of that wouldn't be filtered!) if my kids are photographed. I mean, come on, where will it stop? Will people be forced to wear blinkers to stop them looking at other peoples kids in the future.

What happens in the schools that my kids are in is that it is part and parcel of being a pupil. You will be photographed doing many things (Plays / Sports Days etc) and in the words of the headmistress "There's plenty of other schools in the area if you dont agree with the way things are run!"

What about CCTV in schools? Should this also be banned, just in case somebodies child is caught on camera.

If anyone wants to take pictures of my kids, they will be appearing at school in the carol concert tomorrow at 2pm - feel free to come and take pictures :D
 
i cant get my mind around why everybody doesnt see it this way. What can possibly make you think that people are taking pictures of anything for wrong doing. Generalisation like this can just go on and on and on...
 
Taking it to an older level...

Surely there are more of us who fancy an 18-30 yr old female/male than those of us who fancy a 6 yr old ???

So why not ban 'Street' photography and brand Petemc, EG, Blinkerz, Forbiddenbiker and the like as obvious pervs too???

That's an obviously stupid comment to highlight the obviously stupid thoughts that anyone photographing kids is getting one of the wrist afterwards - or their female equivalent !!!

:bang::bang::bang:

DD
 
thats what i mean..... it can go on and on
 
God help me when I have kids! I'll be snapping away throughout their life.

Anyone trying to stop me will have a fully opened f/1.8 up their behind!
 
Holy **** this is pathetic. 10 years ago, no issue. 20 years ago, no issue. 30 years ago, no issue. 40 years ago, no issue. 50 years ago, no issue. Theres an issue now because the media has mentioned something and everyone has got scared. **** it. Take the damn photos. If people complain tell them they can quote the law that prevents this.
 
petemc said:
Holy **** this is pathetic. 10 years ago, no issue. 20 years ago, no issue. 30 years ago, no issue. 40 years ago, no issue. 50 years ago, no issue. Theres an issue now because the media has mentioned something and everyone has got scared. **** it. Take the damn photos. If people complain tell them they can quote the law that prevents this.
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Yup - exactly

As someone said on another similar thread...

Imagine in 30-40 years when you're going through your photos with your grandkids -

Here was me on the beach, at the school play, here's me with my arse out as a toddler, and here's me swinging from a climbing frame in a park, and here's... (interrupted)

Grandad, where are my pics doing the same?

Weren't allowed to son, weren't allowed to

:shake::shake::shake:

DD
 
Chillimonster said:
What happens in the schools that my kids are in is that it is part and parcel of being a pupil. You will be photographed doing many things (Plays / Sports Days etc) and in the words of the headmistress "There's plenty of other schools in the area if you dont agree with the way things are run!"
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I agree with the statement you have made and as per the OP's post, the school have adopted the policy of no photo's to be taken. My guess is that 1 or more parents have decided that they have not passed consent for their kids to be photographed. In my area, you have to give consent to have your childs photos taken whether that be for a sports day, nativity play or anything else.

If you dont agree with that then the quote obviously can be used in that sense as well.
 
I must be the only one who hasn't come across this yet.

My 2 lads are 3 and 5, eldests play was last Friday and youngests was yesterday. At neither did anyone get confronted about whipping a camera out. Must have been strength in numbers as EVERYONE had a camera of some sort.
 
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