Tilting LCD screens - Do you have the need for them?

UaeExile said:
I never thought I'd use mine, but as it turns out I use it all the time. Especially when shooting from a hight or down low.
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I havew only once shot with a camera over my head. As it was a Rolleiflex, I just held it upside down and looked into its viewfinder.

A tilting LCD would have the same benefit.

snerkler said:
An OVF's don't have a diopter adjustment?????? ;)
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Have had for many years.


Steve.
 
snerkler said:
An OVF's don't have a diopter adjustment?????? ;)
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Yes they do. But you were talking about mirrorless cameras.

Maybe in future they will come up with a rear screen with dioptre adjustment in a similar way to those (glasses less) 3D screens.
 
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snerkler said:
An OVF's don't have a diopter adjustment?????? ;)
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The Fuji X-Pro1 doesn't. It does accept Nikon fit supplementary dioptre correction lenses but they're fiddly and not really adjustable.
 
I suspect one of the reasons the top end DSLRs are slow in adopting articulating screens is the same reason they're slow to adopt the handy pop up flash. It's seen as an unprofessional toy feature, a sign that the camera is intended to please the ignorant masses. It's a camera wearing trainers instead of proper polished leather shoes. In other words it's snobbery.

In fact one of the reasons I've held back from upgrading to a proper "professional" camera is the lack of a pop-up flash. I've got a big bagful of serious flash guns, and when I know I may need flash I'll always carry at least one. I rarely use the pop-up, but it's so useful when I do. Like the fully articulating screen it means that my camera with one general purpose lens on it is capable of coping with the greatest variety of unexpected ad hoc photographic opportunities.
 
chris malcolm said:
I suspect one of the reasons the top end DSLRs are slow in adopting articulating screens is the same reason they're slow to adopt the handy pop up flash. It's seen as an unprofessional toy feature, a sign that the camera is intended to please the ignorant masses. It's a camera wearing trainers instead of proper polished leather shoes. In other words it's snobbery.
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Or maybe it's because both those features might compromise the weather sealing?
 
ianp5a said:
Yes they do. But you were talking about mirrorless cameras.

Maybe in future they will come up with a rear screen with dioptre adjustment in a similar way to those (glasses less) 3D screens.
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Ahh yes, I see what you mean. The old brain was on a go slow ;) Yes, the VF does have that advantage over the LCD too :)
 
Ed Sutton said:
Or maybe it's because both those features might compromise the weather sealing?
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Don't know about that, my EM5-II had flippy screen and is weather sealed, and my D750 has both tilt screen and pop up flash and is weather sealed. Whether it's as weather sealed I don't know, but I've seen videos of some folk putting these cameras under running taps and showers etc to show how weather sealed they are. Why you'd go to such lengths is beyond me though ;)
 
chuckles said:
Do your eyes change that much? Or are you sharing the camera?
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My eyes don't change much but I sometimes wear contacts rather than specs. When shooting, I go "bareback" so don't look through the specs if it's a specs day. It's my only real gripe with the X-Pro - if Fuji can stick a dioptre adjuster in the VFs of the baby X series, surely they could stick one on the X-Pro1?
 
My optician fixed that for me.... I'm short-sighted but not massively so, I only have one eye with correction - just one contact lens! One eye for distance and the other for photography!

(in fact, long distance vision is improving and at this rate, by the time I'm 130, I won't need any correction).
 
chris malcolm said:
I suspect one of the reasons the top end DSLRs are slow in adopting articulating screens is the same reason they're slow to adopt the handy pop up flash. It's seen as an unprofessional toy feature, a sign that the camera is intended to please the ignorant masses. It's a camera wearing trainers instead of proper polished leather shoes. In other words it's snobbery.
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Would never go back to pop up flash. They are not powerful enough or able to create the right light, that is the reason for not wanting one. Your judgements are ill founded.
 
shreds said:
Would never go back to pop up flash. They are not powerful enough or able to create the right light, that is the reason for not wanting one. Your judgements are ill founded.
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Pop up flash have its places. With the right setting and careful usage, pop up flash can serve as a great and convenient fill flash. When I had 5D2, I always had the little 270 flash with me.

Also, without a pop up flash, you are required to have an additional accessory to trigger other flashes. Now, just pop up the flash and you have the perfect secondary flash trigger. I rarely bothered with flash on 5D2, too much effort connecting and turning on different things. Now I just set another flash down and fire away, much quicker for those random shots around the house.





For tilting LCD screen, I want one! It makes shooting low down much easier. With almost all mirrorless cameras, it's used as a feature differentiation.

So for cheapskates like me, I'll have to wait until they go out of date :( After taking the massive hit for 5D2, I've decided I'll never buy a camera body for more than £300, they are out of date before leaving the house!
 
chuckles said:
My optician fixed that for me.... I'm short-sighted but not massively so, I only have one eye with correction - just one contact lens! One eye for distance and the other for photography!

(in fact, long distance vision is improving and at this rate, by the time I'm 130, I won't need any correction).
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Mine isn't too bad but if I go Cyclops, I wear the contact in my right eye and I'm a right eye shooter. Since the X-Pro is rangefinder style, using it left eyed feels too wrong, so it tends to only get taken out for landscapes and then the (non tiltable) rear screen gets used with the bifocals (or at a suitable distance).
 
chris malcolm said:
I suspect one of the reasons the top end DSLRs are slow in adopting articulating screens is the same reason they're slow to adopt the handy pop up flash. It's seen as an unprofessional toy feature, a sign that the camera is intended to please the ignorant masses. It's a camera wearing trainers instead of proper polished leather shoes. In other words it's snobbery.

In fact one of the reasons I've held back from upgrading to a proper "professional" camera is the lack of a pop-up flash. I've got a big bagful of serious flash guns, and when I know I may need flash I'll always carry at least one. I rarely use the pop-up, but it's so useful when I do. Like the fully articulating screen it means that my camera with one general purpose lens on it is capable of coping with the greatest variety of unexpected ad hoc photographic opportunities.
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That's a pretty patronising attitude towards those people who choose a pro spec camera body. Similar to me saying that the camera manufacturers expect those who choose a pro body to have enough skill and knowledge to use a proper flash gun and not some afterthought that pops out of the top.
 
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For me - not having an articulated screen is a good thing - one less thing to break or snap off.... And yes I'm fairly careful with my camera, but don't want to nanny it to death...
 
cymruchris said:
For me - not having an articulated screen is a good thing - one less thing to break or snap off.... And yes I'm fairly careful with my camera, but don't want to nanny it to death...
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Do you really think they're that fragile? I look after all of my gear but I don't nanny it, it's there to be used. Not once have I worried about the tilt screen breaking, not even the one that flips out to the side on my EM5-II. Granted if I dropped it there is a chance it could break, but I'd be more worried about what other damage had been done if it sustained enough impact to break the screen.
 
Tilting screen? Yes! I've had a couple of bodies with a tilting screen and they have been seriously useful for getting a view over heads in front of me or when I've not been willing to lay down in mud for something low down.

Not something I would need to use every day, but something that has value.
 
Not something I ever had on any of my nikons, but the GX7 has one and it's great.. really handy when down low shooting the kids..
 
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