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Right, a couple of weeks ago i bought a nice nikon D70s kit off here, with lots of accessories to go with it, and i have not even taken 1 shot yet, apart from messing with it at home. I am thinking of buying a nikon D200 because i think it will help me more to take the hobby more seriously. I am thinking along the lines of that the better the tools the more i will learn?, sort of if i wanted to be a joiner would i buy 1 screwdriver and 1 chisel to try and make something, or would i buy a SET of screwdrivers and a SET of chisels, to do a proper job on what i am making?.

Am i barking up the wrong tree, i know that i will get some replies along the lines of "its the person behind the camera, that makes the shot, not the equipment" but i think i would rather be using something a bit better to help me gain the shot in the first place, there is nothing wrong with the camera at all but would the D200 give me more creativity?. its just my opinion obviously, but some input off you guys would help, as i am only a beginner and most of you on here have been there and done it.
 
Learn to use what you've got first. How will you know what extra you need before you even try? Just go out and take some photos. Take your camera everywhere wth you.

If you go along the lines of better equipment equals better chance of you using it, then what's to stop you leavng the D200 at home because you'd much rather be using a D300, D700, D3x?
 
In a way, yes. There are plenty on here who can take better pictures with their D40 than I can with my D90, let alone a D3x.

I know where you're coming from though... it's sometimes nice to have the better toys to give you that added enthusiasm.

I would stick with your D70s for now and learn to use it inside out, and by that I mean learning to appreciate light, timing and Manual mode... you'll learn an awful lot more that way. Give it time, and upgrade to something like a D300s in a year or two for the better ISO and pixel count.

Put it this way... I'd be happy with a D40 to supplement my D90... rather than a D3 to replace it :D

Have fun! Oh, and post some pics... you can't beat c&c for learning.
 
gazza2168 said:
Right, a couple of weeks ago i bought a nice nikon D70s kit off here, with lots of accessories to go with it, and i have not even taken 1 shot yet, apart from messing with it at home. I am thinking of buying a nikon D200 because i think it will help me more to take the hobby more seriously. I am thinking along the lines of that the better the tools the more i will learn?, sort of if i wanted to be a joiner would i buy 1 screwdriver and 1 chisel to try and make something, or would i buy a SET of screwdrivers and a SET of chisels, to do a proper job on what i am making?.

Am i barking up the wrong tree, i know that i will get some replies along the lines of "its the person behind the camera, that makes the shot, not the equipment" but i think i would rather be using something a bit better to help me gain the shot in the first place, there is nothing wrong with the camera at all but would the D200 give me more creativity?. its just my opinion obviously, but some input off you guys would help, as i am only a beginner and most of you on here have been there and done it.
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I dont think so, the principals of shooting are the same. I would learn to use the D70 as a starting point. Understand aperture, shutter, ISO and how they work together. You'll get there in no time :thumbs:
 
thanks for the input guys, but what i am going to do is get the D200, but first go out with the D70s learn the basics, and use the D200 as the " reward for getting out there, and learning",
 
Surely using the D70s to work out if you like the hobby first would be better? Sounds like you have an early and severe case of upgradeitis to me!
 
Forget the D200, reward yourself with a nice lens, it'll be money better spent. Learn to use what you have, then expand your lens collection then learn how best to use those.
 
Realise that the d70s *is* a set of tools not just one ;)
You need to learn how to use that set of tools before deciding if you need to upgrade.
 
I know I'm not the only person here to have had both a D70(s) and a D200 then sold the D200 while keeping the D70(s). Apart from the extra MP, the D200 isn't that much of an upgrade from the D70 but it is heavier. There are now much better bodies available than the D200 which is now starting to show its age.
 
Completely forget the D200 for the time being. Forgive me if this comes across as harsh, it's not meant to.

Let me get this straight, you've just bought a D70s with lots of accessories, you haven't even taken it outside and used it in anger yet, and you're thinking of upgrading to a D200? I think you're a loon!

I have a D40x (an entry level camera like you), had it for about 2 years, and the thought of having a D200 level camera when I was starting out scares me. You need to get to know your camera first before moving on, IMO.

You have a great camera, you'll learn A LOT with it. I love my camera, but have kind of outgrown it so will be looking at buying a D90. I don't even want to make the step up to the D200/300 level yet.

Stick with what you've got. Don't waste the money. Learn the ropes. I still have so much to learn, I don't even class myself as anywhere near 'ok'.

All the best
Simon
 
gazza2168 said:
Right, a couple of weeks ago i bought a nice nikon D70s kit off here, with lots of accessories to go with it, and i have not even taken 1 shot yet, apart from messing with it at home. I am thinking of buying a nikon D200 because i think it will help me more to take the hobby more seriously. I am thinking along the lines of that the better the tools the more i will learn?, sort of if i wanted to be a joiner would i buy 1 screwdriver and 1 chisel to try and make something, or would i buy a SET of screwdrivers and a SET of chisels, to do a proper job on what i am making?.

Am i barking up the wrong tree, i know that i will get some replies along the lines of "its the person behind the camera, that makes the shot, not the equipment" but i think i would rather be using something a bit better to help me gain the shot in the first place, there is nothing wrong with the camera at all but would the D200 give me more creativity?. its just my opinion obviously, but some input off you guys would help, as i am only a beginner and most of you on here have been there and done it.
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I recently upgraded to the Nikon D200. It's a great camera, but what are you using it for? It's good for concert photography and sport due to the great exposure, fast FPS and more AF points. Also, if you're not used to adjusting settings manually, it may be a tad difficult for you.
 
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Forget the D200, reward yourself with a nice lens, it'll be money better spent. Learn to use what you have, then expand your lens collection then learn how best to use those.
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I agree.

I think what you've got is the 'more kit bug'!

the reason i agree with the idea of a lens over a body is simply because it wont become redundant over time, it will hold its value(in most cases) and finally it will allow you to expand your creative option far more than another APSC body.

and in my opinion always buy f/f body if you can, that way once you have the chance to buy f/f body u suddenly have a new set of lens's to play with since your field of view will get wider.

and finally if you have spare cash and haven't already got Adobe Light Room then you should look into it. i think they still do 30 day trial.
 
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