I am going to try and download a copy of Linux to replace Vista on my laptop, as it is quite an old machine it has a CD drive, this may seem a silly question, but is there any reason why I shouldn't download onto the laptop as opposed to a PC?
I am going to try and download a copy of Linux to replace Vista on my laptop, as it is quite an old machine it has a CD drive, this may seem a silly question, but is there any reason why I shouldn't download onto the laptop as opposed to a PC?
The last 5 laptops I installed Linux on had no issues at all. I didn't try hibernate though. I used Ubuntu, Solus and KDE Neon.I am going to try and download a copy of Linux to replace Vista on my laptop, as it is quite an old machine it has a CD drive, this may seem a silly question, but is there any reason why I shouldn't download onto the laptop as opposed to a PC?
A lot of the more recent distros take up a DVD, however if your lappy can boot from USB, you can copy a bootable ISO image to a pen drive, and install from that.
I guess that depends on what you're used to. My daughters took to it without issue. And showed me a thing or two. (Ubuntu and Solus)Lubuntu is a lightweight version of Ubuntu makes even the oldest computer super fast and all Ubuntu software works on it. On my laptop it boots in 20 seconds where as Windows 10 ( which is what the laptop came with) was taking 2 or 3 minutes. I have been using Linux 10 year or so. I do have to say it is a very steep learning curve just because Linux is different. I no longer have a clue how to work Windows !
You've all big girl's blouses.
There is only one true distribution and it is Debian.
I did a LFS build perhaps 15 years ago, maybe a little more. Fun as an exercise, but not something i'd use day-to-day.Debian is for pussies. Slackware is the true linux - you build everything you need from sources
Phfttt. You're soft the lot of you. Build your own OS based on Tanenbaum's MINIX! If it's a good enough starting point for Linus, it's good enough for you.Debian is for pussies. Slackware is the true linux - you build everything you need from sources
You typed the kernel in from his book, didn't you?Build your own OS based on Tanenbaum's MINIX!
Not too far from the truth! As part of Comp Sci degree back in late 80's we had to build our own BIOS for some murdered Atari ST computers, then we had to write our own C compiler for said Atari (which still fascinates me to this day - you write a simple one and then write a more complex one in the simple 'C', and repeat - I like the elegance of that) and then we built our own OS based on MINIX (I think his book came out the year before).You typed the kernel in from his book, didn't you?
Never liked Slack, Gentoo was okay though.Debian is for pussies. Slackware is the true linux - you build everything you need from sources
I still have his book , well two of them as I also have "Structured computer organisation". Set texts from my degree almost 30 years ago, and they both had the simple red covers . Didn't type in the source code though!You typed the kernel in from his book, didn't you?
I knew someone who started to, but someone else pointed out a BBS that had sources for a complete distro build, so he maxed out his phone bill instead.Didn't type in the source code though!
If you can get unsupervised access to the system unit, you may still get away with it today.You'd never have got away with that in the 90s:
FYI: Lego are releasing some 25th Anniversary Jurassic Park sets later this month, and that scene is one of them,You'd never have got away with that in the 90s:
Yet so many people are using Linux on the Desktop as their main system, where their main applications run fine. And have no interest in "messing about with computers" or whatever WINE is.Alright, I'm not missing out on this Linuxwillie-wavingerr kudos fest, been using it on and off on a variety of machines since the mid ninties when the only optin was to download the source and build it yourself and we could only dream of distros..
<Flamebait> To the OP I would say good luck with it and have fun but generally don't exepct to use it as a main system, it is really good for certain niche applicaitons and for messing with computers but despite many false starts for "Linux on the Desktop" it never got there and never will because the main applications do not natively support it. Go on, someone tell me about WINE </Flamebait>
Yet so many people are using Linux on the Desktop as their main system, where their main applications run fine. And have no interest in "messing about with computers" or whatever WINE is.
It's just a shame that so much out of date, misinformation is still being spread about, holding Linux back.
Alright, I'm not missing out on this Linuxwillie-wavingerr kudos fest, been using it on and off on a variety of machines since the mid ninties when the only optin was to download the source and build it yourself and we could only dream of distros..
<Flamebait> To the OP I would say good luck with it and have fun but generally don't exepct to use it as a main system, it is really good for certain niche applicaitons and for messing with computers but despite many false starts for "Linux on the Desktop" it never got there and never will because the main applications do not natively support it. Go on, someone tell me about WINE </Flamebait>
Yes but if people make sweeping statements about Linux, that does not apply at all to a lot of people. Not everyone uses Adobe stuff. I find DigiKam and Raw Therapee great. Some people love Darktable. The limitations are with the Adobe programs failing to run on Linux, not Linux itself. Adobe don't care. And many people have a second computer not for photography. And happily, already use Firefox, Open/Libre Office, Spotify, Skype, Minecraft and many other apps anyway, all native to Linux.While I totally agree with you, I think that is becoming less of an issue these days - so much is moving to pure online (Google Docs/Mail/etc) or even javascript based desktop applications (e.g. slack). I still doubt Linux well ever become a mainstream desktop OS (that said, let's not forget that Android has a Linux kernel). For most people on here it's likely LR/PS that keeps them on Win/Mac, Darktable just isn't as good or comfortable.
For me I have 2 "main machines" and they are:
But to your point.. still not using it. Everyone has that one or two Apps that aren't available or have decent equivalents on Linux.
- Alienware M17x - Windows - though I'm considering moving to Dual boot because I really only use windows when I'm gaming. Linux would be much better for the work I do on it.
- Surface Pro 4 - Windows - though I'd move it to linux if it weren't for LR and lack of hardware support
Yes but if people make sweeping statements about Linux, that does not apply at all to a lot of people. Not everyone uses Adobe stuff. I find DigiKam and Raw Therapee great. Some people love Darktable. The limitations are with the Adobe programs failing to run on Linux, not Linux itself. Adobe don't care. And many people have a second computer not for photography. And happily, already use Firefox, Open/Libre Office, Spotify, Skype, Minecraft and many other apps anyway, all native to Linux.
Which is why I posted. To clear up some outdated misunderstandings.
I regularly use Linux from C & Fortran coding on a 6000 node HPC cluster at work to my virtual Linux web server to my mini-ITX Linux box that mainly runs as a headless server for things like SVN at home. I really am OS agnostic, I also regularly use Solaris and 3 versions of Windows, I’ve used and coded on everything from IBM Mainframes, PDP-11 through VAX and SPARC workstations, PCs down to android phones and embedded like PIC and Atmel. I even use my daughters Mac from time to time J.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
And like tears in the rain many outstanding features of those ancient systems have been discarded by people who didn’t see their beauty or have been buried under a pile of patent litigation but for me, personally, in most aspects of life including stuff as arcane as operating systems, I generally prefer the line of least resistance
I'm not an IT person. I need computer things to be easy to do. Hence I am familiar with the easy, mousey way to do things.I regularly use Linux from C & Fortran coding on a 6000 node HPC cluster at work to my virtual Linux web server to my mini-ITX Linux box that mainly runs as a headless server for things like SVN at home.
Yes. I put it on our home PCs, as I like the choice of different, nice, easy desktop environments. A choice you don't get with other OSs. You can try them all out so easily off a USB stick. I also don't need to mess around with virus checkers or have other Windows problems.Are you?
Yes. That is just the "reason" they don't care. But they still don't care.Agreed, I said most (not all) use LR. I could be wrong. While it's not the fault of Linux that Adobe doesn't develop for the platform, sadly it's just business :-(. There is limited incentive for them to do it from a business standpoint.
A very healthy attitude. I find all operating systems poor.I too am agnostic - I dislike all operating systems equally.
If you are happy with them great. But I have high expectations about usability. And they all seem to be in the dark ages when it comes to dealing with information. With the same old files and applications interface.By contrast I have enjoyed almost all OSs that I've used - even OSX, although the novelty wears thin after a while with that & it becomes a pain in the bum. My main home computer has run linux since the early 2000s, but once I became serious about photography I have kept a windows/OSX machine for lightroom, having tried the various linux based image editors and found them wanting in some way. Like sirch said, it's the path of least resistance.
For many purposes, especially casual browsing, email etc linux is every bit as useful as the commercial OSs. Except when the OS gets broken by an upgrade, of course, but that can happen to every system.