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hi guys,
am new to photography and would like to know suggestions on what camera to get for professional use in taking more of portraits and bits of landscape pictures for a beginner?
 


Cue the Canon vs Nikon Wars....

I'd go for a Hasselblad and Phase One back system for the Portraits and A Ebony 10x8 film camera for the landscapes personally, but I've always been a little strange.
 
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Hi funty and welcome.

do you mean a camera for more professional looking pictures or are you intending to become a professioanal photographer?
 
RevOnline said:
Oh. Forgot the landscape bit. Well, it's always a good idea to have a spare body to hand, so a 5dmkII would be a good idea to get as well (you might as well get the 24-70 kit, it's useful to have):

http://camerapricebuster.com/Canon_EOS_5D_Mark_II_+_24-70mm_Lens_pc.html

And obviously a wide lens. This one is pretty decent:

http://camerapricebuster.com/Canon_EF_16-35mm_f2.8L_USM_mkII_pc.html

Happy to help!
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this man has it right. Once you've bought these cameras, you're classed as a professional (canon will even send you a card saying so!).


buy whatever nikon or canon camera you can afford, and go out and take photos....
 
Welcome. Why is it urgent?

For portraits and landscapes, I'd recommend:

Canon 1DsMkIII
Canon 5DMkII
Nikon D3
Nikon D3x
Nikon D700
Hasselblad H4D-40
Phase One P40+ back for Mamiya 645 AFD
 
funty said:
hi guys,
am new to photography and would like to know suggestions on what camera to get for professional use in taking more of portraits and bits of landscape pictures for a beginner?
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I've got a couple of corner pieces spare, one from the beach and another from a woodland scene.. any use to you?
 
funty said:
hi guys,
am new to photography and would like to know suggestions on what camera to get for professional use in taking more of portraits and bits of landscape pictures for a beginner?
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Whats your budget (to include camera, lenses, flash, lighting etc)?, have you tried out any camera's? your question abit vague

I'll Quote from another thread: Originally Posted by menthel
Go to shop, fondle cameras, see how it feels in your hand, can you access the buttons and do you like the menu system. Whichever one you prefer, buy! Simple! Its the only way to decide, otherwise all you end up with is people recommending you the brand they have.
 
Ooh, I got quoted, lovely!

To the OP, we need much more information! Budget, level of competence, already owned etc, etc...
 
For professional use a Nikon D300s, D700, D3s or D3x, or a Canon EOS 1D Mk III or MkIV (not entirely sure of Canon's entire pro-lineup, but image quality is about on a par with the top-end Nikon products, so it'll come down to personal preference as to which you choose).
You'll need two (maybe three) bodies for professional use - that way you can have a medium and tele zoom attached at the same time and you'll not miss any opportunities (and as back-up in case of failure).

Lenses: for professional use you'll want some fast zooms: 14-24mm f/2.8; 24-70mm f/2.8 and a 70-200mm f/2.8, along with some fast primes; maybe a 50mm f/1.4; 85mm f/1.4 and maybe a 60mm or 105mm macro f/2.8.

That lot will set you back about £12-13,000, a little less if you buy second-hand.

To be on the safe side, you'll also need 2 or 3 dedicated flash units - they're about £320-350 each...and some light-shaping bits and bobs - another £300 or so...

A basic professional set-up therefore will cost about £15,000 or thereabouts.

That's not counting editing capability, transport, insurance etc.

If you decide to go into professional sports photography, add another £10,000 for specialist telephoto lenses and teleconverters, ruggedised laptop with wif-wi connection, software etc...
 
funty said:
hi guys,
am new to photography and would like to know suggestions on what camera to get for professional use in taking more of portraits and bits of landscape pictures for a beginner?
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If you are new to photography, why do you need professional use? I pressume that fact that you are asking the question, would mean that you are not at a professional standard yet? Sorry if that sounds harsh but the question could do with a bit of clarification.

If you mean better quality images than you are producing now, what kit are you currently using? What is your budget etc
 
thanks for your suggestions
its urgent because i am starting a class to introduce me into digital photograhy and adobe as a whole on saturday and i dont have a camera to use at the moment.
i intend to take photography as a profession soon and just want to start with something for now, have a low bugdet of E700 for a start.

N.B: was thinking of getting canon 550. would that be to much for a start, if yes. which?
 
So go to the shops and try out all of the models in your price range.

They can all take good photos, it is you however that make them great.

Have a look at www.camerapricebuster.co.uk to get an idea of where some of the bargains might be.
 
funty said:
thanks for your suggestions
its urgent because i am starting a class to introduce me into digital photograhy and adobe as a whole on saturday and i dont have a camera to use at the moment.
i intend to take photography as a profession soon and just want to start with something for now, have a low bugdet of E700 for a start.

N.B: was thinking of getting canon 550. would that be to much for a start, if yes. which?
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ah...see that's not what you originally asked, was it? :thumbs:

Now we can offer more constructive advice...
 
Start with something like the 550D but give more thought, and funds, to your selection of glass. Buy glass for the long term and consider what body you will be upgrading to next - and the time after that.
 
Arkady said:
ah...see that's not what you originally asked, was it? :thumbs:

Now we can offer more constructive advice...
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Well go on then!

Why are you all being so rude towards a newcomer? We've all pitched some poorly phrased posts now and then (some more than others, eh Rob? :lol: ).

Funty, if you're a newcomer looking to get started, you really cannot go wrong with any DSLR from Nikon or Canon. Pound for pound they are much of a muchness and the 550D is just fine, if that suits you and your budget.

Get it with the basic kit lens for now, which can do most things pretty well and is a real bargain when purchased with a camera. You have the rest of your life to add new lenses and other stuff. I've been doing it for 40 years and am still no nearer the perfect outfit. But it's been fun all the way, and still is :)

Good luck and welcome to TP :)
 
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these threads all go the same way... what do i need to take pro pics and be a pro.. answer is pro gear that costs the earth,... op then tells us they have a budget that wouldnt even pay the insurance cost of the pro gear they need..

just me that finds it infuriating to offer advice only for the goalposts to be moved then? :)
 
Hey Hoppy...'P' off mate...I'm doing real work at the moment, thanks...
 
Arkady said:
Hey Hoppy...'P' off mate...I'm doing real work at the moment, thanks...
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LOL Bout time, you've been lazing about on here all flippin day. While I've been busy posting pics for you education (which you seem to be ignoring ;) ).
 
Simmotino said:
Now now ladies, play nice :bat:
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I am, trust me...

It might seem that my earlier post was taking the mickey, but that's what you need for a professional set-up if you're going to compete with the big boys...

Now the OP shifts gear and I can see I wasted my time...

Sorry if I no longer feel inclined to offer further advice - besides, others more familiar with the equipment at the budget level now mentioned can do it better than I...
 
HoppyUK said:
LOL Bout time, you've been lazing about on here all flippin day. While I've been busy posting pics for you education (which you seem to be ignoring ;) ).
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mmm...grass... a decent filter would have cured that, you know...:lol:
 
funty said:
its urgent because i am starting a class to introduce me into digital photograhy and adobe as a whole on saturday and i dont have a camera to use at the moment.
i intend to take photography as a profession soon and just want to start with something for now, have a low bugdet of E700 for a start.

N.B: was thinking of getting canon 550. would that be to much for a start, if yes. which?
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Saturday you say? First job booked for Tuesday then? :D
 
KIPAX said:
these threads all go the same way... what do i need to take pro pics and be a pro.. answer is pro gear that costs the earth,... op then tells us they have a budget that wouldnt even pay the insurance cost of the pro gear they need..

just me that finds it infuriating to offer advice only for the goalposts to be moved then? :)
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That's why I asked for clarification earlier in the thread.
 
funty said:
thanks for your suggestions
its urgent because i am starting a class to introduce me into digital photograhy and adobe as a whole on saturday and i dont have a camera to use at the moment.
i intend to take photography as a profession soon and just want to start with something for now, have a low bugdet of E700 for a start.

N.B: was thinking of getting canon 550. would that be to much for a start, if yes. which?
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Hi and welcome to TP.

Bit of advice - tone down the "I intend to take up photography as a profession soon" comments - they won't elicit a good reaction. Look at it this way - if you were taking an introductory class in plumbing you wouldn't expect to be taking up up as a profession any time soon. Not my best example as photography has the artistic element too - but I'm sure you get what I'm saying. Don't make the mistake of thinking a "pro" camera will take "pro" pictures for you - it won't!

Within your budget I think the canon you have mentioned is a good option and probably about the level you should be pitching yourself. There are lots of other makes / models in this bracket though and it's a very personal thing as to which one will suit you best. I would suggest going to a shop and handling the different options within your budget before you do anything else.

Also remember to budget for memory cards / bag /extra battery - you may want a tripod or filters and you will definately want to look into additional lenses at some point.

Hope you enjoy your course - I think it might be a bit of an eye opener re the whole turning pro idea...
 
Daysleeper40 said:
Hi and welcome to TP.

Bit of advice - tone down the "I intend to take up photography as a profession soon" comments - they won't elicit a good reaction. Look at it this way - if you were taking an introductory class in plumbing you wouldn't expect to be taking up up as a profession any time soon. Not my best example as photography has the artistic element too - but I'm sure you get what I'm saying. Don't make the mistake of thinking a "pro" camera will take "pro" pictures for you - it won't!

Within your budget I think the canon you have mentioned is a good option and probably about the level you should be pitching yourself. There are lots of other makes / models in this bracket though and it's a very personal thing as to which one will suit you best. I would suggest going to a shop and handling the different options within your budget before you do anything else.

Also remember to budget for memory cards / bag /extra battery - you may want a tripod or filters and you will definately want to look into additional lenses at some point.

Hope you enjoy your course - I think it might be a bit of an eye opener re the whole turning pro idea...
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thanks all points noted.........
 
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