What is Full Frame? (D700)

odd jim said:
"Full Frame" is no longer a nick name (and I'm not sure it ever was as such) it is a technically accepted term.

Check out Canon's web page for the Canon 5D2 It is only referred to as "The full frame EOS 5D Mark II" which has a "21.1MP full frame CMOS sensor".

http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_5D_Mark_II/

No other terminology is used with reference the sensor.

The 135 film was actually introduced by Kodak in 1935 and is the first format film that we have since known as 35mm film. The connection between 135 film and digital sensors has, to my knowledge, never been made as the term 35mm film followed not long after Kodak's 135 film was introduced and subsequently copied, which is probably why I've never heard a full frame camera referred to as a "135 sized sensor" and why no one uses this term...
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Interesting fact Jim, thanks:thumbs:

But I have to wonder 1935, 135, 35:thinking:
Seriously though, nice to have some history as I'm just getting into photography.

Dave
 
realspeed said:
The D700 has been around for some time and must be shortly due to be replaced as was the D300. I am basically in the same position do I go get a D700 now or wait for the upgrade,I intend to keep the D300.

My worry is the D700 is going the same way as the D300 and have movie mode added which is something I just don't want as I already have superb Panasonic video camera.

It's a pity both Canon and Nikon have decided to go down the duel purpose route as its totally unnecessary in my opinion.


Realspeed
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So, what are we going to do? Do we wait or just do as Scott suggests and get the 700? I've heard rumours about a D400, but for when and what kind it's going to be...

Anyway, I'm still gathering information and taking my time, it's a lot of money and as they say, "Rome wasn't built in a day". Not that has anything to do with it:lol:
 
Flash In The Pan said:
To simplify matters, if you shoot in low/bad light get a D700, if you don't then stick with the D300 - for now :naughty:

Whatever you do, do not go and have a shot of a D700 or you will want to change, regardless of whether you need to or not :lol:
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I shoot a lot of stuff close to the water's edge with trees and shrubs as background. It really sounds as though the D700 has a lot going for it and a lot of fans, especially on here:lol:
To be honest I started out with this thread to find out exactly what FF was, it now looks like I'll end up buying a new camera:lol:

Thanks for the info.

Dave
 
Nice examples Scott, wow:thumbs:
So, I guess with that result at such an ISO. There's really only one question left, where to buy one as cheap as possible:lol:
 
POAH said:
you forgot about CX :lol:

if you can afford it get the D700
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Thanks Poah,

I didn't start out to buy a new camera, I was just thinking and wondering what FF was and now:bang:

This is going to turn out an expensive thread/question:lol:
 
Daveee said:
So, what are we going to do? Do we wait or just do as Scott suggests and get the 700? I've heard rumours about a D400, but for when and what kind it's going to be...

Anyway, I'm still gathering information and taking my time, it's a lot of money and as they say, "Rome wasn't built in a day". Not that has anything to do with it:lol:
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If you like it & it does what you want it to do and will be happy then get it....

Yep Rome wasn't built in a day but the world was made in just 6 thou :lol:
 
Daveee said:
Thanks Poah,

I didn't start out to buy a new camera, I was just thinking and wondering what FF was and now:bang:

This is going to turn out an expensive thread/question:lol:
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David this was one of my first shots testing out the D700, I have not applied any noise reduction to this image ... ISO6400

Not making it easy for you are we :D

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Martyn... said:
I thought we were having a civil discussion, I certainly felt no malice in any of the posts, and I doubt the other three did either, no different to a discussion over a few beers in a pub :beer:

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My post was meant in jest Martyn, be nice to meet people over a beer rather than the interweb at times, yes, even Poah................:)
 
Nice pic Martyn,

No, it's certainly not easy:gag:
What lens did you use? Really iso6400? I don't think it's going to be long before the change:lol:
Thanks for the example.
 
scottthehat said:
no probs, the d300 does well but the d700 is better.
here the cheapest place, got mine from them it is an import but comes with warranty and if a fault happend its will only be fixed via an authorised nikon dealer..


http://stores.hdewcameras.com/-strs...D700,digital-camcorder,SLR-DIGITAL/Detail.bok
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Thanks for the link mate, I'll have to look around though, what with p&p etc to Belgium. I don't know what it's like in the UK at the mo', but it's all expensive here, how I ended up in Belgium?????:lol:
 
Daveee said:
Nice pic Martyn,


What lens did you use? Really iso6400? I don't think it's going to be long before the change:lol:
Thanks for the example.
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Nikkor 500 f4 + 1.4TC 1/500 sec f7.1 :thumbs:

I must admit it amazed me when I saw it on the computer screen.
 
Please stop posting shots from the D700.... my wallet can't cope !
 
Martyn... said:
Nikkor 500 f4 + 1.4TC 1/500 sec f7.1 :thumbs:

I must admit it amazed me when I saw it on the computer screen.
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Thanks my man,

I don't think it's going to be long now:lol:
 
Well, I think it's about done with this one. I started out with the question "what is full frame?" Now it looks like I'm going to be buying another camera, at least my other half will be pleased, bless her:lol:

Just like to thank everyone for their opinions and thoughts, I'm now a little wiser and skint:bonk:

Don't think I'll be asking anything else for a while, too expensive. I thought advice on here was free:lol::lol:

Once again, many, many thanks to everyone.

Dave
 
Daveee said:
Well, I think it's about done with this one. I started out with the question "what is full frame?" Now it looks like I'm going to be buying another camera, at least my other half will be pleased, bless her:lol:

Just like to thank everyone for their opinions and thoughts, I'm now a little wiser and skint:bonk:

Don't think I'll be asking anything else for a while, too expensive. I thought advice on here was free:lol::lol:

Once again, many, many thanks to everyone.

Dave
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we aim to please,:D
 
You didn't have to post anymore pic's Steve:bang:
With all this talk about D700's I'm not sure I'm gonna sleep until I have one:lol:
Thanks
 
Daveee said:
Interesting fact Jim, thanks:thumbs:

But I have to wonder 1935, 135, 35:thinking:
Seriously though, nice to have some history as I'm just getting into photography.

Dave
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Probably just coincidence. The film was 35mm wide and used for movie cameras where it ran vertically, using a 24x18mm frame. IIRC Ernst Leitz's innovation was to use the film horizontally with a 36x24mm frame+, thus making the first 35mm still camera. The 24x18mm frame would return to still cameras later*, known as half-frame, thus making 36x24mm full-frame although no-one needed to use that designation then.

+ Although a vague memory says it was smaller than 36x24mm at first.

* Most noticably the Olympus Pen range after which the current m43 range is named/styled. In the seventies, I had a lovely little SLR outfit based round a Pen FT....

Jonathan
 
Snapsh0t said:
Probably just coincidence. The film was 35mm wide and used for movie cameras where it ran vertically, using a 24x18mm frame. IIRC Ernst Leitz's innovation was to use the film horizontally with a 36x24mm frame+, thus making the first 35mm still camera. The 24x18mm frame would return to still cameras later*, known as half-frame, thus making 36x24mm full-frame although no-one needed to use that designation then.

+ Although a vague memory says it was smaller than 36x24mm at first.

* Most noticably the Olympus Pen range after which the current m43 range is named/styled. In the seventies, I had a lovely little SLR outfit based round a Pen FT....

Jonathan
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Thanks for the info Jonathan.
Always nice to have some background info, much appreciated.

Dave
 
I in the same position. I have a D90 and the luxury of using a D7000 which belongs to my partner. Its a great camera, but would love to go full frame.
What did you decide to do? Did you get your D700 and if so, what did you think?
Tx Graham
 
grwiffen said:
I in the same position. I have a D90 and the luxury of using a D7000 which belongs to my partner. Its a great camera, but would love to go full frame.
What did you decide to do? Did you get your D700 and if so, what did you think?
Tx Graham
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Hi Graham,

Still using the 300 for now, but it won't be long I don't think. Still researching, to be honest there are a so few cons and a fist load of pros for the 700. I think we're talking another couple of weeks or so, but it's all looking like my other half will begin with a D300 and I'll advance to the D700. Even though I'm very pleased with the D300, it's just everyone on here is so pro D700:lol:

I was pleasantly surprised how well this thread did, gained a lot of info and probably wrecked my savings, but hey, life is short right?:)

Thanks for your interest.
Dave
 
Dave, I use a 700 and a 300, best of both worlds bud..........:thumbs:
 
scottthehat said:
like frac i use both and use the d300 for widlife but when it starts to get up past iso 1600 i just wish it had the quality of the d700, as the d700 just produces amazing images up past iso 1600.
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Scott,

Not sure if it's good news, but I've ordered my D700:help: That's my holiday for this year:lol:

Everyone has convinced me that it's really good, plus all the research. Plus a mate of mine passing away last week at 53, I thought what the hell, we only get one chance.
Guess I'll have to start all over again getting to know my new camera, exciting stuff hey?

Thanks once again to yourself and everyone else who contributed to my decision:thumbs:

Hopefully I'll be posting some shots after I've been out practicing.
 
Hi david sorry to hear about your friend 53 is young.
enjoy the d700 when you get it you will really love it, if you have any questions join in on the d700 owner thread..
if you need a good little cheap zoom for the d700 as your 17-70mm will only work in dx mode look for a 28-80mm f3-4.5 afd its a lovely little lens and you can pick them up for about £50/60.
 
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scottthehat said:
Hi david sorry to hear about your friend 53 is young.
enjoy the d700 when you get it you will really love it, if you have any questions join in on the d700 owner thread..
if you need a good little cheap zoom for the d700 as your 17-70mm will only work in dx mode look for a 28-80mm f3-4.5 afd its a lovely little lens and you can pick them up for about £50/60.
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Thanks Scott,

I have some stuff to do in the next couple of days, so time is a little limited. But I'll definitely be on the D700 thread, if I can find it:lol:
Thanks also for the info on the lenses, much appreciated:thumbs: Really looking forward to it:)
 
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