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Hi all,
I asked Norwich FC if I could get a pitchside photopass and they said I had to be a 'FA licenced photographer'. What is that please?

Cheers,

Dunc
 
One that's licensed by the FA.....Football Association.
 
andrewc said:
You need to contact the Football Association. Read accreditation page on Kipax's website - its quite strict!

Lower league clubs have less strict requirements.
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Yes KIPAX's website is a good description of how it works! You can shoot under Norwich's own club license however them allowing you to do so means that they'd want something in return (ie. the photos - which you couldn't actually display for personal reasons anyway). If they already have a club photographer then they may just not be interested I'm afraid :(
 
That is to say that you couldn't shoot pitchside for one of Norwich's lesser teams, just not the main team which plays in the Football League.

My Brother-in-Law has managed to get the gig of covering one of the youth teams, but they normally play home matches at Colney. His Father-in-Law is on one of the committees that organise these things (its who you know...)

I have a contact at Norwich United who play over at Blofield.
 
Kipax, I just had a look at your site, I love the streakers album but am a little disapointed that you didn't get a better shot of the streaker at the mascot grand national.

I keep thinking about takeing my camera to a match I have done int he past but it was my point and shoot.
 
Little John said:
Kipax, I just had a look at your site, I love the streakers album but am a little disapointed that you didn't get a better shot of the streaker at the mascot grand national..
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Like any normal minded naked women... she was running away from me :)
 
Duncan.F said:
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the info, it was just an idea I had.......

Dunc
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Maybe speak to the media department Duncan. I got my foot in the door with PNE by covering the youths, womens:D and reserves. They were struggling to get pictures for the website and i needed a portfolio. Once they were happy with the work they let me loose at first team games, as a result i've now started shooting for an agency. 18 months from first time shooting a game to working for an agency.

Its not easy but if you can get in with a club you have an excellent chance to pursue it ;)
 
Rovers_Andy said:
Maybe speak to the media department Duncan. I got my foot in the door with PNE by covering the youths, womens:D and reserves. They were struggling to get pictures for the website and i needed a portfolio. Once they were happy with the work they let me loose at first team games, as a result i've now started shooting for an agency. 18 months from first time shooting a game to working for an agency.

Its not easy but if you can get in with a club you have an excellent chance to pursue it ;)
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I can only echo what Andy has said!

Fortunately, I had some extremely lucky breaks and didn't spend any where near 18 months shooting big team's little teams.. I'd shot a lot of youth, and local football, and somehow ended up shooting PNEs first team games and Carling Cup games! Still can't believe how quick it happened..

Now I too shoot for an agency.. I'm covering Blackburn v Aston Villa tomorrow and possibly the big Manchester derby on Wednesday :)
 
purpleclouds said:
I can only echo what Andy has said!

Fortunately, I had some extremely lucky breaks and didn't spend any where near 18 months shooting big team's little teams.. I'd shot a lot of youth, and local football, and somehow ended up shooting PNEs first team games and Carling Cup games! Still can't believe how quick it happened..

Now I too shoot for an agency.. I'm covering Blackburn v Aston Villa tomorrow and possibly the big Manchester derby on Wednesday :)
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Ahem ;) :D
 
KIPAX said:
hahahahahahahaha

I will give you a pat on the back mate :)
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Twas tongue in cheek :) but whilst we're giving out thanks i owe you a big one ooh er :naughty: cos i wouldnt have got this far without your help.

purpleclouds
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Originally Posted by Rovers_Andy
Ahem
Haha.. I thought my love thanks to you was public knowledge

(I was hoping to explain it was you who got me shooting for PNE, hence the reason for quoting you... kinda went on a ramble instead )
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Haha tis ok mate i'm glad to have helped out :) wish i was covering Blackbrun Vs villa though :dummy:


Sorry for taking this off thread Duncan
 
its bloody freeezing here to:annoyed: dropped to -1 -3 the past two nights :suspect: i think they sent me to Alaska and told me its florida :lol:
 
Do you know who the current photographer is? The one who has FA acceditation?, maybe if you can find that out and ask him how he got it?
 
Rovers_Andy said:
its bloody freeezing here to:annoyed: dropped to -1 -3 the past two nights :suspect: i think they sent me to Alaska and told me its florida :lol:
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Wait until you get to shoot at Scunthorpe on a wet widy and freezing cold night, knee deep in mud and ******! Lights are crap, crowd abusive and you dont get a pie or pasty until full time and then you'll have to be quick.:D
 
Rovers_Andy said:
its bloody freeezing here to:annoyed: dropped to -1 -3 the past two nights :suspect: i think they sent me to Alaska and told me its florida :lol:
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Wait until you get to shoot at Scunthorpe on a wet widy and freezing cold night, knee deep in mud and s-h-i-t! Lights are crap, crowd abusive and you dont get a pie or pasty until full time and then you'll have to be quick.:D
 
Oh it all sounds so appealing! Thanks for the info it really is interesting. But maybe youth games is a way forward, I usually do local rugby games!

Cheers,

Dunc
 
Rovers_Andy said:
Maybe speak to the media department Duncan. I got my foot in the door with PNE by covering the youths, womens:D and reserves. They were struggling to get pictures for the website and i needed a portfolio. Once they were happy with the work they let me loose at first team games, as a result i've now started shooting for an agency. 18 months from first time shooting a game to working for an agency.

Its not easy but if you can get in with a club you have an excellent chance to pursue it ;)
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That's great advice.
I'm going to give that a try, thanks.
 
Little John said:
Kipax, I just had a look at your site, I love the streakers album but am a little disapointed that you didn't get a better shot of the streaker at the mascot grand national.
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The expression on the bear's face is priceless :lol:

Paul
 
I never realised that photographing football was so beaurucratic (sp?).

BTW, redpaul, you're from the same city/town/area full of roundabouts as me. ;)
 
snapzz said:
Wait until you get to shoot at Scunthorpe on a wet widy and freezing cold night, knee deep in mud and s-h-i-t! Lights are crap, crowd abusive and you dont get a pie or pasty until full time and then you'll have to be quick.:D
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Is that cos someone from Donny will eat them all :exit:
 
Little John said:
Does anyone know what the score is for FA youth cup?
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All matches played on Football league/championship/premiership grounds come under dataco.. two pub teams playing at old trafford come under dataco..
 
yep :bang: and try sorting out your accreditation once an agency give you a chance. You have to get a UK Press Card supplied by the NUJ who are pretty strict on who they accept and you need a picture editor to write a letter saying you've worked for them. Not much use if your trying to get your foot in the door. No press card = no matches = nothing published = no agency work = no matches :bang:
 
KIPAX said:
All matches played on Football league/championship/premiership grounds come under dataco.. two pub teams playing at old trafford come under dataco..
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Just a thought - what's the rules when it comes to training grounds?
 
Rovers_Andy said:
yep :bang: and try sorting out your accreditation once an agency give you a chance. You have to get a UK Press Card supplied by the NUJ who are pretty strict on who they accept and you need a picture editor to write a letter saying you've worked for them. Not much use if your trying to get your foot in the door. No press card = no matches = nothing published = no agency work = no matches :bang:
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I thought you where sorted.. found a way around it?
 
KIPAX said:
I thought you where sorted.. found a way around it?
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I have yeah (well providing the SJA approve my application) got to wait until next week to find out what happens

I meant to edit that back into my other post :)
 
purpleclouds said:
Just a thought - what's the rules when it comes to training grounds?
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I know dataco are stamping down on reserves and have warned all clubs not to accept photographers into reserve games unless they have a licence/accreditation

Not sure about yoof on grounds other than first team.. best bet would be to email djohnston@premierleague.com .. I have always found him accomodating.. he is a straight to the point kinda guy but he will answer you and at the end of the day he is the person you need to know the rules for :)
 
Rovers_Andy said:
I have yeah (well providing the SJA approve my application) got to wait until next week to find out what happens

I meant to edit that back into my other post :)
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and thats a proper UK Press card? league/prem etc will only accept league id or uk press cards... now its all being automated through the new accreditation system...
 
KIPAX said:
and thats a proper UK Press card? league/prem etc will only accept league id or uk press cards... now its all being automated through the new accreditation system...
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Yeah FA only accept TWO forms of id for I-PBS one is UK Press card the other is AIPS card which you can apply for once a member of the SJA.


Reserve games are a :nono: without same ID as league games now because some stupid twonk lied to try and get into a Blackburn Reserves game :annoyed: and ruined it for everyone else.

According to DJ when i spoke to him last season Training grounds and yoof team are same as League grounds and teams
 
Rovers_Andy said:
Reserve games are a :nono: without same ID as league games now because some stupid twonk lied to try and get into a Blackburn Reserves game :annoyed: and ruined it for everyone else.
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oh dear... never done owt but accy reserves... why would anyone be so desperate to do a reserve game... they must have known they couldnt do anythign wiht the pics... wierd! Am guessing it wasnt just one... maybe the final straw sorta thing..
 
KIPAX said:
All matches played on Football league/championship/premiership grounds come under dataco.. two pub teams playing at old trafford come under dataco..
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Was this on Sunday.............:lol::lol::lol::exit:
 
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