Which Kit Lens Option Canon 450D/ 500D OR Body Only

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Hi Guys

Just need some advice i think i will go for one of the two cameras

But in either case you can get the body with a

1) Lens Kit (EF-S 18-55 IS)
2) Lens Kit 2 (EF-S 18-200 IS)
3) Lens Kit EF-S 18-55mm IS and 55-250mm IS

Now my question is with option 1 your bound to get a Telephoto Lens

So do i got for Option 2 costing about 280 extra consider that lens on it's own is closer to 400

or option 3 which will cost about £180 extra on top of option 1 yes you get abit more zoom but then have to change lenses

I'm tempted by option two as will mostly be doing walk about photography and don't want hassle of having to change lens.

Or do i save 280 or even more by buying Body only and buy a lens on it's own
 
The 18-200 is 3x the weight at 600g compared to the 18-55 which for a walkabout will be heavy for someone new to SLRs (im guessing you are?)

It comes down to what you know, what your used to and what your expecting this camera to do for you?
 
Only you can answer this question but people can give you advice.
The 55-250mm IS a great lens considering the price and you will find many members here who own one or have done in the past.
The problem I found with not wanting to change lenses on a walkabout was that I ended up having no choice but to do so for a while.
This depends on what you intend on photographing, so if you think you will need to have a longer zoom for walkabout, read some reviews on the Tamron 18-270mm VC lens.
I own one and it fits my needs perfectly as a general walkabout lens.
 
I got the standard kit and soon added the 55-250. They are both quite light lenses so easy to carry then both around. Normally I use one or the other with not a lot of changing, but even with changing it's not tricky. The 450d self clean on the sensor seems to be pretty good at keeping the worst of the dust off.
 
Ok as you can tell complete novice but sounds like i should explore my options.

But heres a question that might help me make up my mind. Which is for general Photography in the house nothing creative Shots of kids play etc. Would a 18-55 suffice.
Meaning i get a decent shot equivalent of a P & S.

In most cases you'd be close enough in terms of zoom i think. Last thing i want is Quick take a pic, errm can't not got the lens for that. But off course i want to progress and will eventually get a zoom or Super Zoom lens.

Also a Niffy Fifty i.e the 50mm lens what is the point in your normal lens covers that range?

Sorry for being Silly..........Input ........time to do more reading
 
Well I have gone for option 3, the 18-55 IS and the 55-250 IS. These are great for everyday use and I really love them both. The 18-55 will be fine for use in the house and SHOULD give better results than a P&S.
The 'nifty fifty' will be used in low light conditions (ie without a flash) but not limited to that. Hope this helps a bit!!
 
Nadeem said:
Ok as you can tell complete novice but sounds like i should explore my options.

But heres a question that might help me make up my mind. Which is for general Photography in the house nothing creative Shots of kids play etc. Would a 18-55 suffice.
Meaning i get a decent shot equivalent of a P & S.
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Yes it would.

Last thing i want is Quick take a pic, errm can't not got the lens for that. But off course i want to progress and will eventually get a zoom or Super Zoom lens.
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If you want something as a stop gap until you perhaps decide in a high quality super zoom lens, the as I said previously, read the reviews on the Tamron 18-270mm VC.
This would be fine instead of the kit lens and the 55-250mm, I've owned both those lenses and I really liked them but it was the frequent changing of lenses that made me decide to swith the the Tamron (and of course the reviews it has received).


Also a Niffy Fifty i.e the 50mm lens what is the point in your normal lens covers that range?
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I bought a nifty fify soon after buying my 450D and 18-55mm IS kit lens.
In my case I never really used it as the kit lens was fine for me.
As a prime lens the nifty fifty is a good starter portait lens but then you can do that with the kit lens.

I don't disagree with jgs001 as the 2 lens scenario works well with him and it did for me for a while.
It's really up to you to decide.
Owning a DSLR give you the advantage of using various lenses but for a walkabout lens, this is a personal choice as not everyone has the same view
I don't disagree with jgs001 as the 2 lens scenario works well with him and it did for me for a while.
However, on a walkabout it's ideal for everyone to have to change a lens.
I'm my case it became quite frequent where I would turn a corner and see something that I wanted to be able to zoom into, hence my decisions to change the lens.
Obviously for landscapes / building and low light photography etc, different lenses are better suited.
 
Chaz Photos said:
You should look at the 17-85 IS kit lens it very good
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I agree with you, but is the focal length enough for the OP?
I owned a 17-85 IS and I still found that I ended up changing to the 55-250mm quite often.
 
Chaz Photos said:
I dont like lens which have to much zoom as you have to loss something in IQ to me teh 17-85 and a 70-200 will give you much better IQ
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I also agree on this and when Tamron released the 18-270mm, I was expecting it to get slated.
When photoplus magazine give it a very good review I was surprised and online reviews also impressed me.
I'm not saying it's a perfect lens (it can't be for the price) but it's certainly possible to get a sharp photo across it's focal range.
Tamron have done a very good job with engineering on this lens considering it's focal length.
 
It depends on what sort of person you are! If you know that in a few months you will want to get more and better lenses then dont get the 2 kit ones or you will just replace them and waste money. If you are generally quite satisfied with a good but not incredible product then get the kit with the 18-55- if this is the case, I'm guessing once you have the facility of being able to zoom with the 18-55 unlike your average P&S you might want more zoom in which case get the option with the 55-250! Once you use a telephoto you will get the bug and need that reach!!!

Sorry if I made that sound complicated- but as I started- it depends what sort of person you are!
 
Thanks everyone for your input. But i wish you guys would stop using acyronms to a novice took me like 3 days to work out IQ meant Image Quality

But basically i'd like to start with some basic kit but enough to get some zoom which is why i was looking at the Zoom option and then after that it will depend if i get the fever after the bug.

But as with most people i'm sure the whole kit / setup changes over years and not month.

So i either get

1) Body Only + buy my own lens but then i'd need recomendations

2) By Body with Standard lens and buy a Telephoto later which might end up costing more....don't like wasting money

3) By Body with Standard and Telephoto lens

I saw in Jessops they had some offer if you buy Camera you get the Tamron 70-200mm for 99 pounds and other bits i think card and something else

Cant find a 500D with a 17-85 IS kit lens but can find a 450D with it
 
Body and kit lens then get used to the camera before you buy the first upgrade

Doesn't cost much more to get it with the lens rather than body only, even if you sell the kit lens off dirt cheap should still get your money back.
 
Hi Nadeem

From what you've said in your posts, I'd be tempted to go for the dual kit (18-55 IS & 55-250 IS lenses), it'll give you a bit more flexibility, slightly more on the reach and as you say you are starting off, if you do decide you want something longer - eg 70-300 IS lens, you wouldn't have a problem selling the 55-250 lens on.

The other thing to possibly bear in mind, if you do progress and upgrade various lenses and then decide to upgrade the body, if you buy the 18-200 lens, you don't have a short kit lens to sell with the body and if someone is starting off like youself and wishes to buy 2nd hand, small lens & body combo is often preferrable - you could always sell the 18-200 lens with it, but that might put it out of the price range people are looking at.

Hope this helps (not sure it will though :lol:) and good luck with your purchase. Best advice I got once I bought one was "now enjoy it !"
 
Nadeem said:
Ok nothing creative.........Meaning i get a decent shot equivalent of a P & S.

In most cases you'd be close enough in terms of zoom i think. Last thing i want is Quick take a pic, errm can't not got the lens for that...........
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With comments like these i think you would be better off with a bridge camera like a Nikon P90 or similar from another manufacturer for about £280.00 giving you 12 Mpix and a effective focal range of 26mm-624mm.
 
why not body only and 50mm f1.8 along with a 55-250mm for longer reach. TBH (to be honest) the whole point of an SLR is customability so why would you just have an 18-200mm and stay like it.

or as said previously i noticed jessops now have a cool beginners set for £99 that includes a tamron 70-300mm lens, memory card reader, camera bag, memory card, filter, and a free photobook, i think there are another few things like a lenspen but i cant remember them all.
 
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