I think you may be a tad confused here. The working length of a macro lens will remain the same on a crop camera or on full frame. The field of view changes for sure, but not the working distance.Personally I'd go for a 100mm - the working distance (distance from the lens element to subject) is just to small on a 60mm (approx 90mm) where as the 100mm will give around 150mm.
I think you may be a tad confused here. The working length of a macro lens will remain the same on a crop camera or on full frame. The field of view changes for sure, but not the working distance.
This is spot on.Depends on what you want to use it for. For shy things like bugs and stuff then the longer the better, for close up work then almost any length is fine.
This is spot on.
An additional consideration is whether you'd get any other use out of the lens. As some have pointed out here, macro lenses in the range of 60mm can usefully double up as portrait lenses on crop-sensor bodies.
Depends on what you want to use it for. For shy things like bugs and stuff then the longer the better, for close up work then almost any length is fine.
Depends on what you want to use it for. For shy things like bugs and stuff then the longer the better, for close up work then almost any length is fine. The shorter the focal length the
I think you may be a tad confused here. The working length of a macro lens will remain the same on a crop camera or on full frame. The field of view changes for sure, but not the working distance.
The title of the thread perhaps.....?I think your behaving like my wife..............
She also reads things into conversations that have never been stated , I think you'll find the only person mentioning sensor formats is you ?
Hi everyone. I am planning to purchase a macro lens for my Canon 70D but not sure what length 60mm or 100mm. Any advice welcome. Sorry if this has been discussed before.
Depends on what you want to use it for. For shy things like bugs and stuff then the longer the better, for close up work then almost any length is fine.
I've got a 100 f2.8L macro that I used with a 5D3 a lot, then I got a 70D last August and I tried the 100 on that. Now I shoot macro with the 70D 90% of the time, it's AF system is fast enough to handle most subjects on AI Servo and the IQ is amazing with it. The L macro was, along with a 100-400 L, was the first L lenses I got and it still amazes me each time I shoot with it, the detail it resolves is superb. The 100 non L is reputedly the equal to the L in optical ability but about half the price. I've since bought an MP-E65 and sold it and I've also sold the 100-400 L but the 100 L is still in my box and staying put.
I thought about the Tamron 90mm but I think I favour the new version of the Sigma 105mm but I think I will have to buy new as I cannot see any for secondhand.
That is very interesting to me as I'm thinking about a 70D with 100 f2.8L and MPE-65. I would be coming to the 70D and top line macro lenses "from the other direction" - bridge and micro-four thirds with achromats, so your comments about preferring the 70D to the 5D3 for macros are particularly interesting to me. I have been wondering whether to wait and see if Canon produces a full frame camera with an articulated screen and live view focusing like the 70D, but (apart from the fact it will quite probably not happen anyway!) from what you say it might be the wrong move in any case. Any insight you can provide on this would be very welcome.
I wonder if I could trouble you with some specific questions.
May I ask what the issue was with the MPE-65?
Am I reading it right that AF works well for macros with the 100 f2.8L? (I know AF won't work with the MPE-65, but I'd just have to live with that. Other things being equal, I prefer AF for macros, and I'd certainly want to use it with the 100 f2.8L.)
I'm interested in using the new live view focusing on the 70D with the 100 f2.8L - have you tried that?
Have you used the LCD for any macros? (The articulated screen, along with its apparently good live view implementation, is a major attraction for me, given where I'm coming from - using live view on articulated screens - for the odd angles on subjects that I often use.)
Do you happen to know whether I could use the LCD live view for manual focusing with the MPE-65?
Hi Nick, some interesting questions there and I'll answer them in order.
1, I got the MP-E65 in October 2011 and it was going to be my Christmas present. Unfortunately I had an accident in between which has limited my range of movement and I can't manage to get down into the positions needed to take best advantage of it. The times I managed to use it indoors I got some fantastic shots with it, but sadly it didn't get enough use for me to keep it. It's a super lens though, but you do need a good lighting setup to take advantage of it.
2, the AF of the 70D is fast enough for me to keep up with 90% of moving subjects using AI Servo and as I usually shoot between f11 and f16 I get the subject in focus most of the time. For static subjects I usually use AF and then tweak in manual using Live view and a tripod, but most of my shots are insects and are usually moving.
3, yes I have tried using Live view focussing with the 70D, not very often compared to non Live view shooting, and I've been quite successful with it. It really helps on those hard to reach shots above the head or above a bush or something.
4, the articulated lens is a godsend with macro, I got a great shot of a butterfly about 18" above head height that I would never of managed otherwise. It's also been a great help in concerts to shoot above the heads of the crowds etc. It's one of the best features of the 70D IMO.
5, unfortunately I sold my MP-E65 way before I got the 70D but I really can't see why it shouldn't be able to be used in the right circumstances.
Hope this helps you make your mind up, although looking at your location there really might not be too much in the way of a subject if the recent weather doesn't improve soon. I hope you're managing to keep dry and best of luck.
Just to amplify this bit - there's nothing stopping you using an MP-E 65mm on any EOS DSLR. I use one quite happily(*) with my 40D. With a crop-sensor DSLR you fill the frame with a smaller subject than with full-frame camera, of course - at 5x magnification it's roughly 4.5*3mm instead of 7*5mm - but that's the only difference.I sold my MP-E65 way before I got the 70D but I really can't see why it shouldn't be able to be used in the right circumstances.
Just to amplify this bit - there's nothing stopping you using an MP-E 65mm on any EOS DSLR. I use one quite happily(*) with my 40D. With a crop-sensor DSLR you fill the frame with a smaller subject than with full-frame camera, of course - at 5x magnification it's roughly 4.5*3mm instead of 7*5mm - but that's the only difference.
(*) I say 'quite happily' but of course that doesn't mean it's easy! I'm in awe of people who can use this lens well.