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Hi all I've just been to Disney land Paris and i took with me the 18-55 is and the 55-250 is but i never used the 55-250 is. I was saving up for a Canon 24-105L f/4 is usm but i found my self needing something wider than the 18 and longer than the 55 and that is where the 15-85 is usm f/3.5-5.6 would fall right in but Im concerned on how sharp it would be when compared to some others. I also found my self needing something sharper and faster than the 18-55 is. The Canon 17-55 f/2.8 is usm would be nice but the price is a little too high and i have heard some people were experiencing problems with the AF motor although im sure alot of you are going to praise this lens and swear by it. Does any one have experience with the (Sigma AF 17-50 f/2.8 EX DC HSM OS) or the (Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 XR DI ll VC LD Asph (IF)? How do these lenses compare in terms of sharpnes,af speed,aperture speed etc using a scale 1-10 .. using the 18-55 is as a base for the comparison although
im sure it would come in last...

Canon 18-55 is

Canon 15-85 is usm f/3.5-5.6
Sigma AF 17-55 F/2.8 EX DC HSM OS
Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 XR DI ll VC LD Asph (IF)
 
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I've never been disappointed with the sharpness of my 15-85mm, OK it's not a fast lens but as a general purpose walkaround it does a grand job.
 
I use a Tamron 17-50 VC. It's a bit hard to compare it to the Canon 18-55 because I used that when I was just starting so the photos I took with it are of generally poor quality, but I'm very impressed with the Tamron.

My father has a Canon 17-55, and also seems impressed with my lens. Considering it's about twice the price, the image quality of the Canon certainly isn't twice as good.
 
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I recently bought a Sigma AF 17-50 f/2.8 EX DC HSM OS and I am very happy with it. Sharp, solidly built, 3 year guarantee and comes with a good quality case and a hood.
 
I wouldn't worry too much about the 15-85 being a little slower unless you intend on doing low-light/indoor shots - in which case it's definitely time to think about a faster lens. I've got the Canon 17-55 2.8 by the way - no focussing problems here!
 
I recently bought a Sigma AF 17-50 f/2.8 EX DC HSM OS and I am very happy with it. Sharp, solidly built, 3 year guarantee and comes with a good quality case and a hood.

I second that. As good as the Canon 17-55 if not better for less money, Superb colours and sharpness. Had it for a year now and no regret.
 
DoctorBob said:
I wouldn't worry too much about the 15-85 being a little slower unless you intend on doing low-light/indoor shots - in which case it's definitely time to think about a faster lens. I've got the Canon 17-55 2.8 by the way - no focussing problems here!

I did a lot of night photography in Paris and I was struggling with my 18-55 is f3.5-5.6 or whatever it is. So I'm thinking although the 15-85 would be better build and sharper it would still offer me the same aperture as the 18-55 so it would be pretty slow in that respect. But I imagine the 15-85 would be perfect for day time photography.
 
As the Canon 15-85 is the ultimate walk around lens for day time, let's put it this way, which would be better suited for night time walk around street type photography... The sigma 17-50 f/2.8 os hsm and all the rest of the alphabet behind it or the canon 15-85? no primes to be included..
 
As the Canon 15-85 is the ultimate walk around lens for day time, let's put it this way, which would be better suited for night time walk around street type photography... The sigma 17-50 f/2.8 os hsm and all the rest of the alphabet behind it or the canon 15-85? no primes to be included..

I think you already know the answer to that one :p

You know... it's still an interesting question... Whilst the 17-50 is 2 stops quicker, a lot of night time street photography appears to be about contrast and capturing movement (often blurred) - not about tack sharp images of people/things moving. The IS system on the 15-85 is excellent (4 stops) so is the equivalent of carrying around a non-IS 1.4 prime (or better at the shorter focal lengths) for static subjects. You will also have depth of field advantage of f5.6 but with the ability to handhold at ridiculously slow shutter speeds. If that suits your style of night time walk around, then the answer isn't so clear cut ;)

It isn't always about wide apertures for night time - particularly when you consider the 15-85 is sharper to the corners wide open than the 17-50 OS when stopped down to the same (or smaller) aperture as the 15-85. Take a look here if you don't believe me: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/...LensComp=729&CameraComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0
 
You know... it's still an interesting question... Whilst the 17-50 is 2 stops quicker, a lot of night time street photography appears to be about contrast and capturing movement (often blurred) - not about tack sharp images of people/things moving. The IS system on the 15-85 is excellent (4 stops) so is the equivalent of carrying around a non-IS 1.4 prime (or better at the shorter focal lengths) for static subjects. You will also have depth of field advantage of f5.6 but with the ability to handhold at ridiculously slow shutter speeds. If that suits your style of night time walk around, then the answer isn't so clear cut ;)

It isn't always about wide apertures for night time - particularly when you consider the 15-85 is sharper to the corners wide open than the 17-50 OS when stopped down to the same (or smaller) aperture as the 15-85. Take a look here if you don't believe me: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/...LensComp=729&CameraComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0

+1 and in addition......

People seem to get very hung up on being able to shoot at f2.8 and whilst fast glass has it's place, it isn't always necessary.

A mid-range f2.8 zoom would be useful to a wedding photographer where using a flash in a church/registry office isn't an option but for someone doing a bit of street photography at night, even at f2.8 you would probably still need a tripod to stop lens shake and the DoF might not be that useful to you. You can still get a nice blurry background using f5.6 but you may need to be a little more creative ;)

I'm only an amature photographer but I have added around 6K-8K images in my Lightroom catalogue since March/April this year.

I can't think of many instances where I've thought "damn..... if only my 15-85 was faster"

My brother-in-law's favourite rule of thumb is 80-20.... as in 80% of the time you won't need a fast lens but 20% of the time you might do.

But then you could apply the same logic/thought to the focal length of the 17-50.

For me being able to shoot at 15mm all the way up to 85mm is fantastic and it's very rare I need to go longer (I have my 100-400mm for that ;) )

Before I chose the 15-85, going on advice I was given on here, I downloaded a program that analyses the focal lengths my pictures were shot at (at that time I was using a 400D & Sigma 18-200). It turns out that 40% were around 80mm and an equal amount at 18mm and 200mm with a smattering of other lengths in between.

Given the inferior IQ of the 18-200mm lens and the 400D's 10MP to the 7D's 20MP, my thoughts were that I would be able to crop any shots without too much loss of IQ so wouldn't miss the reach of the old lens.

From what I can tell, there isn't too much difference in IQ between the lenses, they tend to have their own weak/strong lengths/f-stops, it really comes down to what you actually think will work for you the best and of course budget :D
 
travellingcello said:
Why is this NSFW? I mean apart from that you shouldn't be on TP at work.. LOL.

I dunno I'm using tp on my iPhone and I do put it in my pocket without locking the screen sometimes.. User error I guess.
 
Why does this guy in the shop keep telling me to get a 17-40L no matter what lens I ask about he seams to want to sell me the 17-40L even when I ask about primes.... He seams to be obsessed with the red ring around the lens rather then giving advice on what the custemer is asking for!!! I asked about the 15-85 sigma 17-50 24-105 35mm f2 and 50mm and his answer was..... U guessed it 17-40!
 
The 17-40 is a great lens, but there are far better choices (IMHO) for a 17-> on crop sensors...
 
give us a list... any one of the mentioned above?

17-55 IS
15-85 IS

for starters... Both have IS and better range. 17-55 has f2.8 too. No experience of the Sigma/Tamron ones, but they are clearly better "value" as they cost a whole chunk less...
 
17-55 IS
15-85 IS

for starters... Both have IS and better range. 17-55 has f2.8 too. No experience of the Sigma/Tamron ones, but they are clearly better "value" as they cost a whole chunk less...

true, the Tamron is significally cheaper but the Sigma costs the same as 15-85
 
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