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Ok I know this one has been done in it's many forms a lot recently so apologies for another thread on it, but I'm fairly shortly going to upgrade to a more powerful portable flash unit so want to get some opinions as money is tight and a second unit will likely be a long way off so would prefer to make right choice first time. Given there's a few on here eithe have or have had both thought I'd ask for advice.
At present I have 3 lencarta smartflash 2's,some yongnuo 560's and a yongnuo 565. To keep some of the existing parts compatible I've decided to go the godox route with a view to possibly replacing the yongnuos down the line as well which has led me to look at basically 3 options.
1. Godox AD360 £315
2. Godox AD360 II £350
3. Godox AD600BM £400....I've ruled out the 600B as my budget can't go that far
I want it for primarily outdoor portraits so stopping speed isn't a massive concern. I do like the idea of hss as I regularly use wide apertures, I know I can use ND filters and do plan to but having the option there seems like it would be useful. I'll be using with existing bowens mount modifiers and don't really want to buy a new set as I have most I need and would prefer to keep my gear as flexible as possible. I dont see ttl being a big deal, other than for on camera at receptions I never use it and haven't missed it ,that said if I had more easy access to it maybe I would use it more?
so my thoughts,
option 1 AD360.
pros: more portabe/lighter than ad600, simple interface as just a manual flash, works with my exisiting trigger system.
cons: not as powerful as ad600, needs adaptor to fit bowens modifiers, may not fill large modifiers as well, no hss, using tailsync requires additional triggers, no ttl.
option 2 AD360II.
pros: more portabe/lighter than ad600, has hss so no need for extra triggers, has ttl if required, not a lot more money than ad360. can be manually controlled by existing ft16 trigger system
cons: not as powerful as ad600, needs adaptor to fit bowens modifiers, may not fill large modifiers as well, if using x1-n can't trigger existing strobes triggers.
option 3 AD600
pros: more powerful and 600w recommended to overpower sun, has hss so no need for extra triggers, takes bowens modifiers natively.
cons: less portable, heavier for mounting on top of stand, if using x1-n can't trigger existing strobes triggers, no ttl.
One of the downsides of the 2 newer flashes, particularly the ad600, seems to be the move to 2.4ghz from the older ft-16's 444mhz. Am I correct in thinking if I buy XTR16 receivers to replace my old 444mhz receivers I can then use the x1 to control all flashes? Also the weight issue of the ad600 can be offset by adding the ad-h600 head for not a massive amount of cash, has anyone used these yet having looked at godox previous portable flashes a lot of the reviews said the head wasn't very strong and wasn't suitable for larger heavy modifiers. I'd potentially wanting to mount up to 150cm octa on these heads has mayone used larger modifiers on one?
given the price difference between the first 2 would I be right to assume I'm as well going with the 360ii over the 360? If that's the case the choice becomes ad600 vs ad360ii, although there's only £50 in these 2 I'd have to potentially buy 3 new receivers and an external head pushing the gap to over £150 so decision comes down to....
1. In real world does the extra stop make a big difference if shooting during day?
2. Does the extra size/weight of the ad600 make it less useable on location?
3. Is the H600 external head strong enough to take larger modifiers?
4. Will the X1-N control the newer xtr16 recievers to integrate with my existing lights?
5. Do people find ttl reliable for ocf at weddings or similar where you're trying to get everything set extra quick?
apologies for the long post and thanks for any advice you can give.
At present I have 3 lencarta smartflash 2's,some yongnuo 560's and a yongnuo 565. To keep some of the existing parts compatible I've decided to go the godox route with a view to possibly replacing the yongnuos down the line as well which has led me to look at basically 3 options.
1. Godox AD360 £315
2. Godox AD360 II £350
3. Godox AD600BM £400....I've ruled out the 600B as my budget can't go that far
I want it for primarily outdoor portraits so stopping speed isn't a massive concern. I do like the idea of hss as I regularly use wide apertures, I know I can use ND filters and do plan to but having the option there seems like it would be useful. I'll be using with existing bowens mount modifiers and don't really want to buy a new set as I have most I need and would prefer to keep my gear as flexible as possible. I dont see ttl being a big deal, other than for on camera at receptions I never use it and haven't missed it ,that said if I had more easy access to it maybe I would use it more?
so my thoughts,
option 1 AD360.
pros: more portabe/lighter than ad600, simple interface as just a manual flash, works with my exisiting trigger system.
cons: not as powerful as ad600, needs adaptor to fit bowens modifiers, may not fill large modifiers as well, no hss, using tailsync requires additional triggers, no ttl.
option 2 AD360II.
pros: more portabe/lighter than ad600, has hss so no need for extra triggers, has ttl if required, not a lot more money than ad360. can be manually controlled by existing ft16 trigger system
cons: not as powerful as ad600, needs adaptor to fit bowens modifiers, may not fill large modifiers as well, if using x1-n can't trigger existing strobes triggers.
option 3 AD600
pros: more powerful and 600w recommended to overpower sun, has hss so no need for extra triggers, takes bowens modifiers natively.
cons: less portable, heavier for mounting on top of stand, if using x1-n can't trigger existing strobes triggers, no ttl.
One of the downsides of the 2 newer flashes, particularly the ad600, seems to be the move to 2.4ghz from the older ft-16's 444mhz. Am I correct in thinking if I buy XTR16 receivers to replace my old 444mhz receivers I can then use the x1 to control all flashes? Also the weight issue of the ad600 can be offset by adding the ad-h600 head for not a massive amount of cash, has anyone used these yet having looked at godox previous portable flashes a lot of the reviews said the head wasn't very strong and wasn't suitable for larger heavy modifiers. I'd potentially wanting to mount up to 150cm octa on these heads has mayone used larger modifiers on one?
given the price difference between the first 2 would I be right to assume I'm as well going with the 360ii over the 360? If that's the case the choice becomes ad600 vs ad360ii, although there's only £50 in these 2 I'd have to potentially buy 3 new receivers and an external head pushing the gap to over £150 so decision comes down to....
1. In real world does the extra stop make a big difference if shooting during day?
2. Does the extra size/weight of the ad600 make it less useable on location?
3. Is the H600 external head strong enough to take larger modifiers?
4. Will the X1-N control the newer xtr16 recievers to integrate with my existing lights?
5. Do people find ttl reliable for ocf at weddings or similar where you're trying to get everything set extra quick?
apologies for the long post and thanks for any advice you can give.