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Why do I still love my 450 instead of the 7D :shrug: I really need to go and have one to one lessons with it I think, but I just love the noise it makes :lol::lol:

Forced myself to go out in the feeezing cold today (with a stinking cold also) to take some shots, as I made it a rule I shoot something every day with the camera, and just can't seem to "fall in love" with it:shrug:

I know I have only had it a few days but I miss my 450 :'(

I think I am going through a really neg spell:shake:

Do you all feel for a camera straight away or do you click (pun not intended :lol:) with it straight away?
 
If you really prefer the 450D Nicki I will be more than happy to help by looking after the 7D for you :D

Remember you have had the 450D for some time and will be used to the way it feels, what the buttons do and how it works, the 7D is new and you need to learn again (to a certain extent)...

You'll settle into soon enough and be more than chuffed with it :D
 
the 7 will take a bit of getting used to, did for me, but you will learn to love it as well as the 450, just need time and practice, I have next week off, if the weather is good I'll see about getting over, we can shoot some of your great wildlife, and I'll give you any tips you need :D
 
I think it might be wasted with me I have spent all the afternoon pushing buttons etc indoors and still can't remember what is what:shrug:

Ryan don't worry will let you know, if I decide to do anything drastic :lol: but it is staying at home when I go on holiday:shake:
 
Stick with it Nicki, its quite a jump from the 450 (I went from a 50D to a 7D and that was a jump, before that it was a 400D), but rest assured, it will all fall into place and you will love it, its a dream to use for wild life IMHO. I still have my 50D, dont know why, I dont use it, but dont want to part with it lol. Realy it should be sold to finance a new lens, but.... :shrug:
The 7D will be with me for a long time, its a love affair for sure :love:
Am looking forward to seeing some more BIF pics from you :thumbs:
 
kinda see where youre coming from, ive just gone from a 20D to a 1Dmk3 and theres looooads of new stuff to learn. but i can see what huge potential the upgrade holds for me personally so its a fun new learning curve :)
 
Thanks Neil.;) but it has taken me a fair while to get what I call good results from the 450 and personally I don't want to hit rock bottom again with the 7D ( or frightened to do so), so do I stick with it or pass it up and stay with my trusty 450 which I love and get the results I have wanted :shrug:
 
Stick with it, some of your "Good" results have been absolutely stunning, the Kite eating springs to mind...

You won't be learning completely from scratch. You have the basics and experience from the 450 it's just a matter of trasnfering that knowledge to the 7D...

It'll all click into place and once it does you'll look back on this thread and giggle :D
 
Briony said:
Thanks Neil.;) but it has taken me a fair while to get what I call good results from the 450 and personally I don't want to hit rock bottom again with the 7D ( or frightened to do so), so do I stick with it or pass it up and stay with my trusty 450 which I love and get the results I have wanted :shrug:
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In that case then why did you upgrade if you were getting the results you wanted? :thinking:
 
Nicki, I had the same thing when I went from my 400D to my 50D.

Trust me when I say that one afternoon it'll just al fall into place.

I can't reccomend the Digital Field Guides enough, I've had one for all of my cameras and they really do help loads.
 
Briony said:
Thanks Neil.;) but it has taken me a fair while to get what I call good results from the 450 and personally I don't want to hit rock bottom again with the 7D ( or frightened to do so), so do I stick with it or pass it up and stay with my trusty 450 which I love and get the results I have wanted :shrug:
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stick with it. the canon cameras are all roughly the same in terms of layout and basic operations just the higher spec models have new features and a few more options.. you just need a little time to accustomise yourself :)
 
Nicki, just go back to basics with it, if I remember rightly you shoot in AV, get it in that, maybe even Auto ISO (one less thing to worry about), and just shoot with it like that for a while, as I say, if you want I should have time next week to come over, can go over the AF setting etc. these are the main difference from the 450 to be honest, it is a great camera, and for wildlife will do you proud, would also say may be worth shooting some of the other wildlife other than the Kites first to get the feel of the camera.
 
TheNissanMan said:
Stick with it, some of your "Good" results have been absolutely stunning, the Kite eating springs to mind...

You won't be learning completely from scratch. You have the basics and experience from the 450 it's just a matter of trasnfering that knowledge to the 7D...

It'll all click into place and once it does you'll look back on this thread and giggle :D
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:agree: Definitely stick with it, you truly wont regret it. There's heaps of users on here too, so any advice you need is available, you'll see great results very soon and wonder what it was all about :thumbs:
 
Will try and get hold of the digital guide and see what that throws at me I suppose it is likened to climbing a flight of stairs when you are knackered:lol:

you conquer one flight then more appear that are harder, steeper etc:shrug: then have to spend the time battling up them to reach the next flight, if you understand where I am coming from.:thinking:
 
Stick with it Nicki, it will be well worth it :thumbs:
I swapped my D200 for D300 last September and it's took me ages to get it set up, still miss my old camera which I sold to top the temptation.
I needed the higher ISO handling and it hasn't disappointed me
 
Like driving a new car, you now what to do and how to do it but everything is slightly different to what you know making you feel uncomfortable and doubting yourself, tensing up and making more smaller errors...

Just relax, enjoy and it will come....

Must learn not to relate everything to cars :lol:
 
I'd stick with it if I were you! If you went on holiday and after you got back you suddenly figured out the key to using the 7D, you'd be absolutely gutted! Get outside and have a good play.
 
I agree with what others have said, it is a huge leap from a 450D to 7D.
I found the same going from a 450D to a 40D now a 50D, that I needed to learn a bit more about my photography skills to get the best shots that I could.
I really didn't think that I would find this going from a 40D to a 50D but I've discovered that the 50D can certainly be unforgiving if I don't nail the exposure.
I will eventually move to a 7D and no doubt I will have to brush up somewhat but I know the effort will be worth it.
 
hashcake said:
I agree with what others have said, it is a huge leap from a 450D to 7D.
I found the same going from a 450D to a 40D now a 50D, that I needed to learn a bit more about my photography skills to get the best shots that I could.
I really didn't think that I would find this going from a 40D to a 50D but I've discovered that the 50D can certainly be unforgiving if I don't nail the exposure.
I will eventually move to a 7D and no doubt I will have to brush up somewhat but I know the effort will be worth it.
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That's what I mean perhaps I should not have jumped to quick with the 7d and gone somewhere in between :shrug:
 
If you'ld gone elsewhere in between you still would have had a learning curve and still wanted the 7D and then had to learn again when you upgraded to the 7D...
 
trencheel303 said:
But if you were 'getting the results you wanted'...?

Am I the only one who is completely bamboozled?! :naughty:
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No not at all, I am wanting to shoot better sequences if you get my meaning i.e racing I don't just want a picture of a horse taking off and landing I want a picture of a horse taking off going over the fence then landing :shrug: The 450 is just not fast enough.
 
I've had my 7D since November and the better I get to know it the more I like it. Initially I was impressed by the AF performance, which is primarily why I bought it, but not so thrilled with the IQ.

The problem in the beginning was that I was not a good enough photographer to get the best from the camera. I didn't have a problem with operating the camera itself, or with exposures, but when shooting BIF with my 100-400 lens I was having a big problem trying to get shots that were sharp enough. The problem was not the camera, but shake/blur. My technique was not up to standard. I have been working hard to try to improve my skills and I think I'm seeing progress being made. One thing that seems to be improving my results is turning IS off altogether for BIF. It does seem that IS and fast shutter speeds do not always yield best results. You can't blame the camera for that, but the photographer needs to learn.

One must appreciate that as good as the 7D can be at capturing detail in ideal conditions, it can all too easily expose flaws in technique when the going gets tough. Cameras with (much) smaller pixel counts tend to be more lenient on the photographer because they don't so easily reveal these flaws. Give the camera time. The 7D is a brilliant tool. It just needs a skilled photographer to make it shine. Mine isn't sparkling yet, but I hope that one day it might.

Here is a recent example shot with my 7D and 100-400. This is at 3200 ISO and is unedited. I'm very happy with the focusing against a busy background and the IQ obtained.

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Larger version here - http://lh3.ggpht.com/_4_R8TkwT74w/S...N9Vww7J1IRE/s1600/20100429_155238_7068_LR.jpg
 
Thanks Tim, Nice shot love it,

I know it is going to be a very hard learning curve and I see you shot that with the 100 400 Canon, I have the sigma 120 - 400 and just hope it is going to be good enough for the camera as there is no way I can afford a new lens also :shrug: so if this is the case then the 7 D will have to go to someone who will appreciate it more and I will stick with the 450 and the Sigma because it produces nice pictures for me and to hell with the speed :shrug: but shooting wildlife is my thing I love it, that is why I went for this camera. So I suppose I have a year of learning ahead of me.

I am frightened to pick the dam thing up now, but I know I have to practice, practice, practice.

Really have to do some serious thinking as to how far I want to go with my photography:thinking:
 
It's true that at 18MP the 7D is demanding of both the photographer and the lens, but don't get carried away by pixel peeping. Consider the quality of the pictures you can get rather than the quality of the pixels. Can you get better pictures with the 7D? If not, then perhaps it is not the camera for you.

Can you be more spcific about your reservations regarding the 7D. What is it that you are unhappy with?

As for all the buttons and options, I now have mine set up as I like it and I really don't need to change very much from day to day, The only thing that I change regularly that differs from my previous cameras is the focus pattern. Other than that it is all pretty much same ol', same ol'.

It's a shame we live so far apart, because I'd love to come and shoot your birds, and I'd be happy to help you with the 7D if I can, but it's a bit of a hike from Essex. Maybe some other kind soul a bit closer by would be able to help you settle into the camera.

I don't suppose you fancy joining us on the photography holiday to Wales in June. We have a couple of places left to fill....

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=195675

If anyone else is interested then do please contact Allen (F1.2) to see if he can squeeze you in.
 
I think I am unhappy about the camera in lots of ways, too many buttons that do too many things, I am liking your way of thinking about setting it up and not changing much, it is very easy to get led by different peoples opinions:thinking:.

It is not the same as the 450 and I am doubting myself whether I am ever going to be good enough to use this. to its full capabilities :shrug:

I am hoping I can get better pictures with the 7D if it is not the case then it will be sold, I have had some offers of help with it and will probably take them up on it (hope they have heaps of patience :lol:, they will probably end up hitting me over the head with it :bang:) problem is that the kites seem to get more attention as they tend to show off a bit :lol:.

I will also try and get a good book to go along with it.

As for June, I am flying off to Arizona on the 5th and returning on the 24th and the 450 will be my trusted companion for that trip the 7 D will stay tucked away in the cupboard:wave:, so I can't join you but love Wales though.

Thanks ;)
 
The thing is, once you move beyond the Rebel series the ergonomics of the camera design do change quite a bit. There is more similarity between the layouts of the 30D, 40D, 50D, 5D, 5D2 and 7D than between any of them and the Rebels, so if you want to move above the Rebel line at some point you will need to adjust to the new layout. The 1 series bodies are different again.

I sold my 50D yesterday, to someone with a 400D or 450D or something like that. He didn't have a clue how to operate the 50D and I don't blame him. Everything is in a different place and it takes a while to get used to the changes, but once you have it sorted you're good to go. I had reset all the camera settings and custom functions and wanted to show him a couple of things I might adjust, and to be honest it took me a few moments to find them, because they are things I adjusted once only, when I first get the camera, and then never touched again.

Usually when I get a new camera, and I've owned six EOS cameras so far, the first thing I do is to go right through the menu system, reviewing avery option available, and settings things as I would like them. If there is a setting I do not understand then I read the manual and make sure I do. Then I carry on until I've been through everything. By the end of that little process there isn't much left that needs constant review and adjustment during day to day shooting. If there is some feature I do need to fiddle with (semi-)regularly, such as mirror lockup, then I add it to the personalised menu at the end, where it is easy to find.

If I want to do something unusual then I may be left scratching my head for a bit, or God forbid I will have to read the manual, but it's not the end of the world.

(p.s. If you gave me a Rebel to use I'd be just as clueless about using that.)
 
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