Y/C Carl Zeiss 28mm f/2.8 on Canon 5D, work?

B

Brightstone

Messages
202
Name
Simon
Edit My Images
Yes
Has anyone used a Carl Zeiss 28mm f2.8 in Y/C mount on Canon 5D? is there any issue on the reflective mirror? i have heard some MF wide-angle lenses could block the reflective mirror on a FF camera.
 
Don't know what you mean by Y/C (Young Conservative ?:razz:), but surly you'll have to have a converter from the Zeiss lens mount to the EoS fixing, and it will be that converter face thats closest to the mirror? And will the lens have motors inside to drive the aperture ring? And what about the Infinity focus loss with converters unless you get one with a lens inside and then you lose image quality?
Is it really going to be worth it? Wouldn't you be better off getting a Yashica camera to fit the lens if you love the lens so much?

Just wondering like:|
 
surely, it will need a EOS-Y/C adaptor ring to work on a EOS camera. is there an infinity loss? another thing i need to find out. Y/C means yashica/contax mount.
 
Is this the Carl Zeiss Distagon 28/2.8?

If so, I've had an AE and MM version and they've both worked at infinity provided you use a very good quality adapter. Most are a touch too thin, which causes the 5D's mirror to hit something on the back of the lens.

I ended up buying a rather nice adapter from this chap: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Adapter-Fits-...hotography_OtherAccess_RL&hash=item5d2db54317

Expensive, but very much worth it :)
 
manualfocus-g said:
Is this the Carl Zeiss Distagon 28/2.8?

If so, I've had an AE and MM version and they've both worked at infinity provided you use a very good quality adapter. Most are a touch too thin, which causes the 5D's mirror to hit something on the back of the lens.

I ended up buying a rather nice adapter from this chap: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Adapter-Fits-...hotography_OtherAccess_RL&hash=item5d2db54317

Expensive, but very much worth it :)
Click to expand...

Yes, it is a Carl Zeiss Distagon 28/2.8.

Do you mean the mirror would hit the a bad-quality adaptor?

i heard the mirror could hit or be blocked by the back optic?
 
manualfocus-g said:
A bad quality adapter will be too thin = back of lens will hit the mirror, as it will be closer than it should be.
Click to expand...

Thanks for you clarification. so the Zeiss 28mm works ok on you Canon 5d with the adaptor mentioned? the mirror does not hit the lens and no issue on infinity.
 
OK, but WHY? Whats so special about this lens? And how will you control the aperture? Surly the lens doesn't have electric motors like a Canon lens and if it does, do the contacts line up? Are the control commands the same? With a mount converter in between, theres more surfaces to be misaligned, let the dirt and light in. Seems an awful lot of trouble to go to, just because you can. I'm missing some thing here but what?
 
Stumpy said:
OK, but WHY? Whats so special about this lens? And how will you control the aperture? Surly the lens doesn't have electric motors like a Canon lens and if it does, do the contacts line up? Are the control commands the same? With a mount converter in between, theres more surfaces to be misaligned, let the dirt and light in. Seems an awful lot of trouble to go to, just because you can. I'm missing some thing here but what?
Click to expand...

The lens is completely manual, so you are correct. Adapting lenses is no hassle however, and Carl Zeiss lenses have a certain something which needs to be seen to be appreciated. Most are pin Sharp corner to corner for landscapes and render an incredible image, usually with a hint of 3d. I've sold nearly all my Canon lenses now as, to me, the images produced are dull and flat.
 
manualfocus-g said:
The lens is completely manual, so you are correct. Adapting lenses is no hassle however, and Carl Zeiss lenses have a certain something which needs to be seen to be appreciated. Most are pin Sharp corner to corner for landscapes and render an incredible image, usually with a hint of 3d. I've sold nearly all my Canon lenses now as, to me, the images produced are dull and flat.
Click to expand...

I have tried a couple of screw mount Zeiss lenses on my Pentax DSLR, the result just blew me away. i do not think the sharpness is a lot better than other MF lens e.g. Pentax Takumar etc., but the color rendering and flavour are very pleasant to me. Zeiss lenses in Y/C mount should be the best range in the Zeiss family, but it's annoying that there is no adaptor for PENTAX DSLR, and no FF DSLR from PENTAX. it's the major driver for me to get a 2nd hand Canon 5d.
 
Brightstone said:
I have tried a couple of screw mount Zeiss lenses on my Pentax DSLR, the result just blew me away. i do not think the sharpness is a lot better than other MF lens e.g. Pentax Takumar etc., but the color rendering and flavour are very pleasant to me. Zeiss lenses in Y/C mount should be the best range in the Zeiss family, but it's annoying that there is no adaptor for PENTAX DSLR, and no FF DSLR from PENTAX. it's the major driver for me to get a 2nd hand Canon 5d.
Click to expand...

Yes, it's frustrating for Pentax owners, I agree. Sony owners fare a little better as the MM lenses can have the mounts replaced with custom Sony Alpha ones.

My experience is that the Contax lenses are a lot, lot sharper than the East German Carl Zeiss Jena lenses. However, they are a lot, lot more expensive! :lol: And we shouldn't forget the the CZJ lenses didn't have the quality control or the availability of raw materials of that of the West German models. Interestingly though, I believe the Carl Zeiss Jena 135/3.5 model is actually better than the Zeiss 135/2.8, and all CJZ lenses render images very, very nicely indeed :cool:
 
manualfocus-g said:
Yes, it's frustrating for Pentax owners, I agree. Sony owners fare a little better as the MM lenses can have the mounts replaced with custom Sony Alpha ones.

My experience is that the Contax lenses are a lot, lot sharper than the East German Carl Zeiss Jena lenses. However, they are a lot, lot more expensive! :lol: And we shouldn't forget the the CZJ lenses didn't have the quality control or the availability of raw materials of that of the West German models. Interestingly though, I believe the Carl Zeiss Jena 135/3.5 model is actually better than the Zeiss 135/2.8, and all CJZ lenses render images very, very nicely indeed :cool:
Click to expand...

it's good to know that, so CZJ 135/3.5 should be a keeper. i have also got a CZ 35/2.4. it's very nice, but i found the bokh can be a little bit noisy. i think it might be a comprise with the close capability. in your opinon, what could be a good alternative in Y/C zeiss range?

Thanks
 
Brightstone said:
it's good to know that, so CZJ 135/3.5 should be a keeper. i have also got a CZ 35/2.4. it's very nice, but i found the bokh can be a little bit noisy. i think it might be a comprise with the close capability. in your opinon, what could be a good alternative in Y/C zeiss range?

Thanks
Click to expand...

The manual focus Nikkor lenses are also very good, generally. The 24/2.8 is a belter! The Olympus Zuikos are also very good, but prices are rising.

None of these lenses can match the 3D rendering of the Zeiss lenses, however.
 
Yes, I do know what you all mean about certain lenses having an all most 3D quality. Japanese lenses some times appearer sharper due to being more contrasty, but you can always add contrast, you cant add smooth graduation of tone and hue. Its one of the reasons Leica was so well regarded in years gone by. Then theres that certain "Mystique" with the history of some German lens company's isn't there?

But still no one answers, how to control the aperture. I don't think Yashica made any pre-set lenses did they, only FAD's?
 
manualfocus-g said:
Sorry, the aperture is set on the lens...it's manual stopdown only (the adapter closes the blades are you turn the aperture ring).
Click to expand...

ARrrr, Right. Thanks. Think I was expecting a bit too much with a FAD type operation. (I gets a bit thick some times {What do you mean "Some times"}:D).

So you meter using the body's stopped down setting (If its got one) and easiest to use aperture priority with auto shutter set by the body I suppose. Shame none of the current body's use the "Match needle" type metering system of old.

Look forward to seeing some results. Good luck.
 
On my pentax K20d, i can use AV mode to automatically get a shutter speed with different manually operated aperture setting. it's not 100% accurate, but a little bit EV would do. i guess it would be the same as on a Canon body.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top