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I've got a question which I would love an answer to.

I've ordered a yongnuo flash (560 EX 2) to be a simple slave to my 430 EX 2.

I use a Hanhel TUFF TTL trigger system to fire the 430 EX 2 and wondered if the yongnuo will act as a slave to this and fire in S2 mode once It sees the 430 fire.

Does the yongnuo only react to proper master flashes. Or can it be fired from any type of flash that goes off in the room (430 EX2 are technically not optical master flashes)

Also does anyone know if a TUFF TTL trigger will work with the yongnuo 560 EX 2 in manual mode.

Thanks in advance (yes I have checked the PDF manual and it doesn't answer my question).
 
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I have recently got a 560-II to use in a similar way with my Sony / Minolta flashguns.

As I understand it, the S1 & S2 modes on the 560-II are simple optical triggers - IE they detect the actual flash (rather than an IR based control system).

S1 is a simple flash when anything else flashes
S2 is a flash when anything else flashes but ignore TTL pre-flash

So if you are using TTL, set the 560-II to S2 and it will flash with the main flash from the 430, it you are using manual, set the 560-II to S1 (at least, that is my understanding).
 
Faldrax said:
I have recently got a 560-II to use in a similar way with my Sony / Minolta flashguns.

As I understand it, the S1 & S2 modes on the 560-II are simple optical triggers - IE they detect the actual flash (rather than an IR based control system).

S1 is a simple flash when anything else flashes
S2 is a flash when anything else flashes but ignore TTL pre-flash

So if you are using TTL, set the 560-II to S2 and it will flash with the main flash from the 430, it you are using manual, set the 560-II to S1 (at least, that is my understanding).
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Brilliant, thanks for the reply. So as I hoped you can confirm they will fire from any flash source, point and shoot flash or cheap canon flashes, Id hoped anything will be able to fire this thing off and glad that is the case.

Thanks again!
 
Just to add that I have only just got the 560-II, so what I 'know' is based on my asking imilar questions on various other forums, rather than having actually tried it myself - so have just run a very quick test to check it out.

Used my main Sony flash off camera using radio trigger, pointed at the Yonguno, which was in turn pointing at the wall I was taking a shot of (so the Sony was not pointing at the wall I was shooting).

The Yonguno was triggered optically and worked fine - in fact, I even tried rotating it so that the sensor was pointing away from the Sony flash, being triggered by light reflected onto it - still worked :)
 
Thanks very much for taking the time to do this. I've searched many forums through google and couldn't find this simple answer.

Thanks again for the help, really appreciate your time helping me! :)
 
Sorry to hijack but I have a query/problem hopfully someone can help me with.
For starters I don't 'do' a lot of flash shots so bear with me please.
I have a Nikon D800 and a Yongnuo 560.
I was experimenting with using the flash off camera triggered on S1 by the onboard flash.
So i set the mode to command mode and the onboard flash to -- (which means only to flash to trigger the 560). The 560 flashed, yet the picture was way underexposed. The camera was in P mode with a shutter speed of1/125 f2.8 and iso 100 and I even put the flash unit really close to the subject to try that and the result was the same. What anm I doing wrong please?
JohnyT
 
Johnytuono said:
Sorry to hijack but I have a query/problem hopfully someone can help me with.
For starters I don't 'do' a lot of flash shots so bear with me please.
I have a Nikon D800 and a Yongnuo 560.
I was experimenting with using the flash off camera triggered on S1 by the onboard flash.
So i set the mode to command mode and the onboard flash to -- (which means only to flash to trigger the 560). The 560 flashed, yet the picture was way underexposed. The camera was in P mode with a shutter speed of1/125 f2.8 and iso 100 and I even put the flash unit really close to the subject to try that and the result was the same. What anm I doing wrong please?
JohnyT
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hi mate im not to familiar with the nikon bodys but on my canon 7d you can adjust the exposure compensation in the settings setting so make it brighter or darker so may help with the flash. or there may be a flash compensation setting in your flash settings
 
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Thanks for the reply Robert, but I tested the flash really close to the subject and these should have been way over-exposed.. can't understand it. When I use the onboard flash on it's own (and that has a lower guide number) the shots are perfectly exposed. It must be some sort of compatibility issue I think but I don't know what. When placing the flash on the camera it's bright enough and exposure is good ( I know it doesn't work in TTL and only manual)
JohnyT
 
Johnytuono said:
Thanks for the reply Robert, but I tested the flash really close to the subject and these should have been way over-exposed.. can't understand it. When I use the onboard flash on it's own (and that has a lower guide number) the shots are perfectly exposed. It must be some sort of compatibility issue I think but I don't know what. When placing the flash on the camera it's bright enough and exposure is good ( I know it doesn't work in TTL and only manual)
JohnyT
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in that case if it has no ttl then you need to put into slave were you can control the power output as no ttl you can not use the C Or N mode which is canon ttl and nikon ttl. so any of the S modes on the flash will work. start on 1/128 and just up the power untill you get the look you want
 
Thats the thing though...I had the flash set on S1 (slave) and on full power and the photo was underexposed. The flash was maybe 3 feet off the subject, camera settings were 1/125 f2.8 and iso100. It definitely fired ( i saw it recycle), maybe it's something I'm just not grasping. My onboard flash unit was set on command and triggered the Yong.
JohnyT
 
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Johnytuono said:
Sorry to hijack but I have a query/problem hopfully someone can help me with.
For starters I don't 'do' a lot of flash shots so bear with me please.
I have a Nikon D800 and a Yongnuo 560.
I was experimenting with using the flash off camera triggered on S1 by the onboard flash.
So i set the mode to command mode and the onboard flash to -- (which means only to flash to trigger the 560). The 560 flashed, yet the picture was way underexposed. The camera was in P mode with a shutter speed of1/125 f2.8 and iso 100 and I even put the flash unit really close to the subject to try that and the result was the same. What anm I doing wrong please?
JohnyT
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The 560-II is a fully manual flash - reasonably powerful, but can be set to as low as 1/128 power (7 stops less light!).
First thing to check is the power setting on the flash - and dial it up if needed.
 
Taken delivery of the unit and for anyone that is wondering they are literally amazing for the price. They feel better than my 430 ex 2 and have much better features. Of course no TTL or high speed sync.

I love the bleep after cycle time has recharged.

The flash sync works great and will fire once it sees any type of flash go off (TTL or not).

It's well built, pretty much identical to Canon unit and feels very good in the hands.

For anyone that is wondering if you use the 560 ex 2 as its more powerful than my 430 ex 2 I'd suggest using the 430 ex 2 on 0.7 + more power than what you have the 560 ex 2 set and that will just about match the same output power.
 
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