D800, D800E, D610, D810, D750 - Poll

which would you chose and why - all LOW CLICKS and in good condition …… say why if you would like to

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BillN_33 said:
Tracy you will only get the D4 at the poll price, (I wish that I could amend it …… see #9), but the D4 is almost as good as the D4S and Gary has a good D4 for sale
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Thanks Bill, im in the US right now but will have a look at Gary's thread and see if it's still for sale when I arrive home :)
 
I can't see the poll on mobile but the D610 on grey import is a total bargain at £900 or so now. Other than the rubbish AF spread its a fantastic little camera, and for what I use it for (landscaping) it overcomes its faults as I have it bolted off on a tripod in manual focus etc.
 
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Yeah I got mine for Panamoz a couple of months back at £950. The D750 looks nice but now its not in a D300 size case I'm not particularly interested so I'll stick with the D300s / D610 combo.
 
This is actually a real question for me as I would in the next 3-4 months like to upgrade the D700 - None of the above are perfect (aside from the d4 but too much!). D3S is close but i guess the D800 shades it - good value.
 
cambsno said:
This is actually a real question for me as I would in the next 3-4 months like to upgrade the D700 - None of the above are perfect (aside from the d4 but too much!). D3S is close but i guess the D800 shades it - good value.
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Since you specialise in portraiture and weddings, the D800 would be more than ideal for you I reckon. I'm no pro, but I've shot 5 weddings over the past year, and numerous portraiture and event shoots using the D800E [well paid for itself by now, plus lenses] - good lenses along with of course, and a couple of flashes, but the camera itself has not let me down once.
 
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For me, without budget considerations, and for what I like to shoot most (wildlife/action; often in marginal light) it has to be the D4/s. (D3/s w/ budget considerations)

For fine art/landscape/large prints... D810 (The other minor improvements + the better AF and quiet shutter make the D800/e not even in consideration)

For general purpose "all rounder"... D750 (DF would be close though with a low light bias... I think they screwed up the controls/styling on both of them)

For high detail Macro... Nikon1

Yeah, I threw in some of my own options...

I own the D810 and D4 (basically bracketing the D750). The 810 had enough to cause me to move up from my D800; the D4s doesn't.

I'm basing my choices/recommendations on the notion that the D750 is just a D610 w/ expeed4 and the current 51pt AF... I haven't seen enough real evidence to say that's going to hold up (better/worse).
 
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Would the D800/E/810 plus a long macro not give better results than the Nikon 1 ... with ANY lens? I mean, even having to crop down a lot the D800 could still compete surely
 
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Cagey75 said:
Would the D800/E/810 plus a long macro not give better results than the Nikon 1 ... with ANY lens? I mean, even having to crop down a lot the D800 could still compete surely
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I choose the Nikon1 for the small sensor DOF...
Plus, my V2 has greater pixel density (pixels on subject) than any of the other cameras (even the D7100). Not that that's really much of a benefit as I don't have a lens that can resolve to that level (I'm not aware of one that can).

The D810 would give comparable results if cropped hard (not "better") but with less DOF using the same lens. The DR etc ratings/performance of any sensor is based on the sensor as a whole, not "per pixel." Crop in 2.7x and you've thrown away all of the D810's advantage (well, almost all).

But, if I could use a 1:1 400mm macro (or a 3:1) on the D810, and I did focus stacking very well...then it would win. (I use a 150mm on the V2).
 
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I was just thinking ... having to pull out another cam, while you're out shooting macro [presuming you take the D810 everywhere for shooting!] when you could just ... use a macro, and if you have to crop, you have to crop! I don't really do numbers, just visual results ;)
 
My D800 suits me just fine. When it starts to hold me back rather than my lack of talent doing so,I may upgrade to something else, but that could be a few years off to be honest..........:D

Having had a D3s for a while, I thought it was a stunning bit of kit, but circumstances made me shift some stuff. I sold all my camera bodies but kept the D800, such a versatile bit of kit.
 
If there was a D400 new option - then that would be most popular - the D7x00 isn't quite there, my D3 needs a companion
 
Fun fact: most people who own a D800/E/10 didn't buy it for the MP count. Could be said that the D4s is over priced, as the only thing it does better is slightly better high ISO and faster shutter speed. Anyone who bought a |D800 isn't very worried about fps.

And it's the D4 as mentioned, in the list, the s was a mistake.
 
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I picked a used D800. I could have picked D800e but the AA filter is nice for controling Moire, I've not tried one without an AA filter but I shoot a fair amount of modern architecture and prefer not to have moire in the images. At £1300 used, its a useful £200 cheaper than an E and you can spend that going places to use the thing. I've got an 800 and really love it, file sizes and all. The 610 is a good option, and I have one too.
 
Cagey75 said:
I was just thinking ... having to pull out another cam, while you're out shooting macro [presuming you take the D810 everywhere for shooting!] when you could just ... use a macro, and if you have to crop, you have to crop! I don't really do numbers, just visual results ;)
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I don't take the D810 everywhere, nor the D4... If I'm just out and about I probably have the V2 with me.
 
ST4 said:
Handling is far nicer, it is just better laid out than the 610.
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I would agree... and the same will be true w/ the D750 comparison.
But others will prefer the smaller/lighter/"simpler" designs. That is really just a personal preference and has nothing to do with performance/capabilities.
 
sk66 said:
I would agree... and the same will be true w/ the D750 comparison.
But others will prefer the smaller/lighter/"simpler" designs. That is really just a personal preference and has nothing to do with performance/capabilities.
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For travel/etc a smaller body must be lovely. However with nikkor fx lens a bigger body balances it out better in the hands. Hand holding my 610 and 800 with 24-70 the keeper rate due to lack of shake is actually higher on the 800. Light prime shooters will enjoy the lighter body of the 750 I am sure, but the dF is lighter still
 
Size - How many guys buy the extra grip/battery holder for the D700 and D800 - quite a few I would image

same question for the smaller bodies, D610, D7100 etc.,
 
ST4 said:
Light prime shooters will enjoy the lighter body of the 750 I am sure, but the dF is lighter still
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And it might be the better choice for low light or smaller print/display. I put the Df as my second choice for a "do it all camera" (even though it wasn't an option).

To me the D810 w/o grip *is* a small body camera...
 
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BillN_33 said:
Size - How many guys buy the extra grip/battery holder for the D700 and D800 - quite a few I would image

same question for the smaller bodies, D610, D7100 etc.,
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I do, and it almost never leaves the body. But it's a bit of a PITA. It's not part of the camera so it always has a little wobble to it. I'm not as confident attaching it to a tripod or speed strap by the grip (and I have the OEM grip). And you have to remove it to replace the in body battery every so often (but not very often).

Still, I don't think a built in grip is worth the price jump if that's all you want.
 
sk66 said:
I do, and it almost never leaves the body. But it's a bit of a PITA. It's not part of the camera so it always has a little wobble to it. I'm not as confident attaching it to a tripod or speed strap by the grip (and I have the OEM grip). And you have to remove it to replace the in body battery every so often (but not very often).

Still, I don't think a built in grip is worth the price jump if that's all you want.
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Steven

All I was indicating is that we make our cameras larger even thought some say it's great to have a smaller size

strange old world
 
sk66 said:
Then they should have bought a D610 unless the AF is a problem... (the D750)
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Um, there was no such thing when I bought my D800E [the D600 wasn't even a thing] ... And I wouldn't have opted for it anyway, because I like a chunkier body. I also really dislike the dial on it, personal preference. People buy certain things for MANY reasons.

That's as useless a suggestion as me saying don't buy a D4s unless you get paid a tonne to shoot sports!

I have a grip for my D800E, I've used it twice. I'm not a gorilla, I don't have gigantic hands that need a huge body, I like 'em chunky-ish, but comfy. I don't find it near as comfy with a grip. And I find the battery lasts well enough that I don't need it.
 
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Cagey75 said:
Um, there was no such thing when I bought my D800E [the D600 wasn't even a thing] ... And I wouldn't have opted for it anyway, because I like a chunkier body. I also really dislike the dial on it, personal preference. People buy certain things for MANY reasons.

That's as useless a suggestion as me saying don't buy a D4s unless you get paid a tonne to shoot sports!
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You can choose and do whatever you want, for whatever reason. (If it's not an option, then it's not part of the choice.)
Personally, when choosing or recommending a camera I try to leave personal preferences out of it... I can learn to use anything. As it is, a camera is a bunch of compromises anyway. If I'm going to allow a personal preference to additionally influence the decision then there better be damn good reason for making the additional compromises (i.e. the cost/performance vs size/weight of my V2 kit). And there's little/no justification for me saying my personal preference should have any impact on anyone else's decisions.

I don't "like" the Df or the D750... but if I could only have one camera it would be one of those two (if Nikon; probably the D750).

Buying a grip and never using it, because it doesn't match your requirements, only supports what I'm saying.
 
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I bought a cheap Pixel grip, to try it out. It's not for me. No loss, it's there if I want it. I also thought it would improve on battery life, but found the D800 on a full battery does the job on it's own. So what's your point on that one? How does that "support" anything? I don't even see you have a point to begin with. You're telling me I should have bought a D610 when it didn't even exist at the time :D

Personal preference is vital, you should be comfortable with what you buy from the off, if there's a choice, make it based on that. Ergonomics are important - buying something you're not comfortable with and adjusting, seems odd to me.
 
BillN_33 said:
I think that is what's coming out - that the D750 has not convinced versus the D8xx
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Not so sure about that. I know you have already mentioned about the prices nor being quite right, when the d750 import prices come down in a few months to (guessing here) £1300 I an see that making a difference to the poll. I chose the D810 option but for £450 difference i could well have a D750.
 
Cagey75 said:
Personal preference is vital, you should be comfortable with what you buy from the off, if there's a choice, make it based on that. Ergonomics are important - buying something you're not comfortable with and adjusting, seems odd to me.
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If it's a choice with the only trade-off being personal preference, then fine.
IMHO, "comfort" comes from familiarity/experience. My D4 doesn't feel "huge/clunky" to me, and my V2 doesn't feel "tiny/awkward." The main difference is performance/usability and having made that tradeoff of the V2 for the personal preference of size weight was a significant compromise.
 
BillN_33 said:
Size - How many guys buy the extra grip/battery holder for the D700 and D800 - quite a few I would image

same question for the smaller bodies, D610, D7100 etc.,
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I use the battery grip on it when shooting wildlife, just feels so unbalanced on its own, I don't use the battery grip for landscape as I find it easier and lighter just to carry it on its own with the 24-70mm...
 
the way prices are "panning out" is interesting, particularly the street price of the D610 and new D750
 
coming from a Nikon man I'd have a 5DIII.
 
BillN_33 said:
we all have our aberrations which are difficult to understand
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Seriously though, it is a better camera for me than all the new Nikon offerings. I LOVE my D700 and have owned several of them, but I see nothing I want in any of the Nikon FF models. I had a D3 - too big for me and the others either have too large files or are ergonomically short.
 
The23rdman said:
Seriously though, it is a better camera for me than all the new Nikon offerings. I LOVE my D700 and have owned several of them, but I see nothing I want in any of the Nikon FF models. I had a D3 - too big for me and the others either have too large files or are ergonomically short.
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I agree - I fancy a Canon just because of a few of their lens, particularly the MP-E and 400mm f5.6 …… in the end it really is all about glass
 
BillN_33 said:
I agree - I fancy a Canon just because of a few of their lens, particularly the MP-E and 400mm f5.6 …… in the end it really is all about glass
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The glass is VERY important, yes, but for me both manufacturers have great glass. A camera has to be comfortable to shoot with for me.
 
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