Wayne.it's a plant..by and large they are sedentary , I'd be patient and go back next year when tis in flower which might .I repeat might help with ID Tis a Rose I'm preddy sure it ain't a dog rose beyond that.well let me pontificate
Roses are cultivated by gardeners.they cross different species they line breed etc etc ad infinitum. This is a monster a huge huge thing. If I recollect correctly the "Autins" launch I1 in 10,000 of the cultivars they grow.............Roses are a huge money thing and therefore become terribly complex to identifiy
So to really ID a rose one needs flower hip and leaves and probably an incredible amount of expertise. Because one would have to ID it beyond a species, it might be a cultivar of a species, or even a hybrid. Plus, of course, that seed that found it's way to your sand dune might show growth characteristics, other than the norm.exposure to salt growth in sand dehydration might all affect how said plant looks. This is bonkers complex. Steve might be on the money but this one is a proper task
Wayne to simplify how many rose varieties are there in blighty.plausibly thousands.how many natives? maybe a handful?
This is blighty this is a teeny tiny microcosom of our flora............................ trees so so many not native even those are manipulated by man.lets go for another member of the rose family...an apple, just how many cultivars of those are there? To me your humble rose is part of a massive big picture of how man and plants work or don't work together and do or don't benefit our ecosystem . It really is sommit folks should stop for a mo and ponder. Bye the way I garden grow shed loads of food for my family bla de bla worked in forestry plant nurseries.so little of what I grow is actually natiive.what does that mean for my beasties?
I'd guess where a rose occurs in the wild is largely irrelevant here plant collectors have been moving and habitualizing plants for eons.
I guess this thread will reactivate around may june next year??
Wayne....................Soz for the waffle it is really important we think on our ecosystems as a whole flora is the building block for fauna...................... there is a depth to the complexity of man's relationship with a rose that my words are to feeble to convey
take care
stu