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To quote the famous drill instructor:
What is your major malfunction, numb-nuts?!
What is your major malfunction, numb-nuts?!
Just out of interest - and please be serious - did anyone else think my initial response was OTT...?
I keep re-reading it and still can't see why he took such offense...
Maybe it's a language problem...especially if he was a Septic...
Just out of interest - and please be serious - did anyone else think my initial response was OTT...?
I keep re-reading it and still can't see why he took such offense...
Maybe it's a language problem...especially if he was a Septic...
Just out of interest - and please be serious - did anyone else think my initial response was OTT...?
I keep re-reading it and still can't see why he took such offense...
Maybe it's a language problem...especially if he was a Septic...
Plus you've sent a message to site staff asking for your account to be closed, which we don't do by the way
Yes I did, nothing wrong in asking for that
As Hacker has already said, you've actually been offered some good advice in this thread.
Have you not read what I have written? I stated many times I recieved good advice I never ever said I did not recieve good advice if so please show me....
If you choose to leave that's your choice. However, if you decide to stick around try adjusting your posting style.
Adjust my posting style to what? So there is a specific way to write on this forum? Just curious.
There are a lot of people here willing to help, but no one responds well to having their advice thrown back in their face :nono:
I don't think there's any smoke & mirrors going on. Weddings can be hard, especially if the weather and location are against you. If you're finding shooting weddings straightforward maybe you should think about starting doing it full timeI thought that the general tone of responses was negative, although not Arkady's in particular. Without wishing to appear controversial, I do get the impression that the reason some professional wedding photographers on here don't like the idea of amateurs asking for advice is because of the unwelcome competition, not necessarily because it's that hard to do.
I recently shot a wedding as a favour to somebody who couldn't afford a professional and, despite some initial reluctance on my part, it went very smoothly. I didn't charge and told them not to have the same expectations that they would have had from a pro, just in case, but it is fair to say that everybody was pleased with the results. I regard myself as a reasonably experienced amateur and found shooting the wedding fairly straightforward.
Perhaps there's some smoke and mirrors going on?
I thought that the general tone of responses was negative, although not Arkady's in particular. Without wishing to appear controversial, I do get the impression that the reason some professional wedding photographers on here don't like the idea of amateurs asking for advice is because of the unwelcome competition, not necessarily because it's that hard to do.
I recently shot a wedding as a favour to somebody who couldn't afford a professional and, despite some initial reluctance on my part, it went very smoothly. I didn't charge and told them not to have the same expectations that they would have had from a pro, just in case, but it is fair to say that everybody was pleased with the results. I regard myself as a reasonably experienced amateur and found shooting the wedding fairly straightforward.
Perhaps there's some smoke and mirrors going on?
I thought that the general tone of responses was negative, although not Arkady's in particular. Without wishing to appear controversial, I do get the impression that the reason some professional wedding photographers on here don't like the idea of amateurs asking for advice is because of the unwelcome competition, not necessarily because it's that hard to do.
I recently shot a wedding as a favour to somebody who couldn't afford a professional and, despite some initial reluctance on my part, it went very smoothly. I didn't charge and told them not to have the same expectations that they would have had from a pro, just in case, but it is fair to say that everybody was pleased with the results. I regard myself as a reasonably experienced amateur and found shooting the wedding fairly straightforward.
Perhaps there's some smoke and mirrors going on?
i think the OP's gone Pte Pyle on us!
" this is my rifle. there are many rifles like it but this one is mine............"
I thought that the general tone of responses was negative, although not Arkady's in particular. Without wishing to appear controversial, I do get the impression that the reason some professional wedding photographers on here don't like the idea of amateurs asking for advice is because of the unwelcome competition, not necessarily because it's that hard to do.
I recently shot a wedding as a favour to somebody who couldn't afford a professional and, despite some initial reluctance on my part, it went very smoothly. I didn't charge and told them not to have the same expectations that they would have had from a pro, just in case, but it is fair to say that everybody was pleased with the results. I regard myself as a reasonably experienced amateur and found shooting the wedding fairly straightforward.
Perhaps there's some smoke and mirrors going on?
already told the OP in my first post in this thread that it was just pointing out the inevitable
guess what? you were right
we could have another "chip-in" & buy him some thicker skin or a sense of humour?
errrr.......nope!
At the risk of being 'rude'
I am disappointed that someone can throw out more of these than my kids had between them, and repeatedly say they are 'off' while boringly keep coming back to chip in more tripe
DD
If you read the previous posts......I apparently cannot have the administrators of the site delete my profile which I asked about yesterday.
I am not the only one here who is throwing out dummies...... now it is all about how dare I say something against blahblahblah
you feel disappointed...good your choice to let yourself sway that way.
So you mean to tell me with all those smart remarks even after my inital post, I am not allwoed to defend myself or respond back? If so i do have strength within myself to respond back and also to admit that i will not be doing the wedding and also to admit that I have taken in the good bad and ugly...which led me to my decision of not shooting .....I am a child to you?
PS - bet he's gone now - or will this too merit a "I'm gone, but yak yak yak" defensive drivel :shrug:
Oh - and back OT
If you are taking anything more than expenses from people you are acting as a PRO - end of. If you can't cut it, don't have all the gear, back-up, insurance, knowledge, etc. then you either do it for expenses only or learn to do it right and be prepared as a Pro. A half-cocked approach is just as likely to end with you in hot water as it is poorer images than they should be. When you take a decent wedge from people you give them certain expectations, and you're in the crapper if you can't deliver up to those expectations
DD
Thanks for the input and advice..i can for sure take this info and digest with no problem but to me your previous write-up is really foolish and not needed....I stand up for myself...if people cannot understand that.......:bang:
Nsmall, I don't know Arkady from Adam. But all he did was to warn you that you will get some very harsh advice when the subject is about a totally in-experience wedding togger doing a wedding for a freind etc etc,
Don't shoot the messenger springs to mind.
he has quite a few valid points though doesn't he?
I am a she!
Dave, he who has the valid points, is most certainly a he
Just clear things up...........
I am a fashion and beauty photographer and I have been published in the newspaper, I have done a lot of clothing shoots for local designers annd work with modeling agencies to help build models their portfolios. I have a 1200 square foot photo studio with whom I share with another photographer- not saying that having a studio makes you a pro....but for those of you who think I am just a hobyist...this is not the case for me at all.)
For a while I have been looking into doing weddings since last year to be exact( I have done events indoor and outdoor but never weddings ) I want to branch out my talent to doing weddings.The fashion(well most categories) is very up and down and so I thought this would be an opportunity for me to start off in doing weddings.
So I decided to come here and ask questions in regards to how to go about shooting a wedding and waht essentials would be best to have.
You could have saved a whole lot of hassle by giving a better outline of your skill level several pages ago.
You know of him fromthe site and more than you know me whether you have met,went out to lunch or not.
Just clear things up...........
I am a fashion and beauty photographer and I have been published in the newspaper, I have done a lot of clothing shoots for local designers annd work with modeling agencies to help build models their portfolios. I have a 1200 square foot photo studio with whom I share with another photographer- not saying that having a studio makes you a pro....but for those of you who think I am just a hobyist...this is not the case for me at all.)
For a while I have been looking into doing weddings since last year to be exact( I have done events indoor and outdoor but never weddings ) I want to branch out my talent to doing weddings.The fashion(well most categories) is very up and down and so I thought this would be an opportunity for me to start off in doing weddings.
So I decided to come here and ask questions in regards to how to go about shooting a wedding and waht essentials would be best to have.
I know you from the site now just as I know Arkady from the site!
Still justn't change the fact and point in my earlier post. Even if I knew you really well, you have still mis-interpreted Arkady's post, just apologise and move on.
My first thread on here I mistook a joke as a snide remark and reacted a little, but apologised in the end. Although some other git kept poking their nose in and wouldn't let it go.
You could have saved a whole lot of hassle by giving a better outline of your skill level several pages ago.
Justn't?? Made up a new word!
you're rather stupidly allowed yourself to take a lot of flak unnecessarily
That said - I now cannot believe an experienced tog would ask the questions you have done :shake: I don't do fashion shoots, but I know what gear I'd be using to do so if I was to try my hand at it
I don't get you - I really don't :shrug:
DD
One question though, if you are already a professional photographer and you have all this experience why would you not know what lens to use at a wedding? The presence of a lady in a big white dress should hardly worry a professional fashion and events tog.
That's not quite adding up in my head, but having spent all day talking to wedding clients not a lot is right now!
I know you from the site now just as I know Arkady from the site!
Still justn't change the fact and point in my earlier post. Even if I knew you really well, you have still mis-interpreted Arkady's post, just apologise and move on.
My first thread on here I mistook a joke as a snide remark and reacted a little, but apologised in the end. Although some other git kept poking their nose in and wouldn't let it go.
And you do not have to get me either. So is shooting weddings the same as shooting fashion?you're rather stupidly allowed yourself to take a lot of flak unnecessarily
That said - I now cannot believe an experienced tog would ask the questions you have done :shake: I don't do fashion shoots, but I know what gear I'd be using to do so if I was to try my hand at it
I don't get you - I really don't :shrug:
DD
And you do not have to get me either. So is shooting weddings the same as shooting fashion?
And you do not have to get me either. So is shooting weddings the same as shooting fashion?
you're rather stupidly allowed yourself to take a lot of flak unnecessarily
That said - I now cannot believe an experienced tog would ask the questions you have done :shake: I don't do fashion shoots, but I know what gear I'd be using to do so if I was to try my hand at it
I don't get you - I really don't :shrug:
DD