The Fabulous Fuji X owners thread

Dave70D said:
Taking notes :)



Making a note by David Ore, on Flickr
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Its interesting that you posted this, I haven't noticed to this effect before but I zoomed on the wall on flickr and is it me or does it have a slight oil painting type feel to it? (more the wall to the left of the lady)

Cant tell if its just the design of the type of wall.
 
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Cagey75 said:
Nothing wrong with that either :) there has to be a reason to switch about, I'm just experimenting, I go through these phases :D The Oly I got is a little beaten up, but it's fine, adds to it's character, really looks like a little film camera. The X-T1 still feels so much nicer and it's no contest when it comes to the evf, the menus are much nicer to navigate too but the Oly menu system is nowhere near as bad as I expected.
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dave.hallett said:
Keeping it simple, something I'm generally not that good at :) Rather missing the ability to deploy the ND filter on this one...


Church Rock by David Hallett, on Flickr
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Very nice indeed sometimes not using a ND or grads can be a positive thing as you have shown here (y)
 
Tom Green said:
Its interesting that you posted this, I haven't noticed to this effect before but I zoomed on the wall on flickr and is it me or does it have a slight oil painting type feel to it?

Cant tell if its just the design of the type of wall.
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I think you're starting to look for things that aren't there Tom, because you heard about some issues with Fuji cameras earlier. I don't see anything weird about the wall, looks a bit of a smoother wall than average perhaps but you only need look around the image. Her jeans ... look like ... jeans .... the metal seat looks like .... metal ... don't over analyse :D
 
JohnN said:
Hey all - I've not really been posting, in big part because I'm in my near seasonal sell all my kit phase (yes my wife does get to take the p*** each year and I still may well get rid of the XT20 because I have the XT1 too now as well) - this year wasn't helped by really not liking what lightroom does with the files coupled with trying my best to like On1 RAW, which is good but just isn't gelling with me.

So I thought back on what people here had said and took another look at Luminar, which at the time was in beta for windows, but as it currently has no asset management and to open a file you actually have to click open I dismissed it out of hand, then I took one image I really liked and thought what the hell, I'll give it a shot and was pleasantly surprised, even not using masks I got roughly what I has in my head. Now don;t get me wrong, I'd not suggest it yet for Windows primarily because as far as I can tel it only exports and doesn;t have a way to save the editted image to adjust later, which for me is a major nono as my first attempt was good, but not there so I had to start again.

Oh, and another revelation for me were LUT files, I'd heard of them for video but hadn't realised the power of them for photo - what a wonderful thing and quite a deep thing too as I found - from the same supplier - no less than five different flavours of the same file for different cameras (I presume), my favour was the one for RED.

Anyway heres the image and I hope you guys like it and that its looks okay - it looks quite different on my uncalibrated monitor :)


Ethan of the Walking Dead by John Norton, on Flickr
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Very nice piece of work !
 
Cagey75 said:
I think you're starting to look for things that aren't there Tom, because you heard about some issues with Fuji cameras earlier. I don't see anything weird about the wall, looks a bit of a smoother wall than average perhaps but you only need look around the image. Her jeans ... look like ... jeans .... the metal seat looks like .... metal ... don't over analyse :D
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Incorrect, I have been looking for evidence of this after reading about it for a while (not just today or this week), and have spotted this very well documented issue here. Haven't actually spotted it in any of my images personally.

I think some Fuji owners are so pro-fuji that they won't accept anything that could be an issue and adopt an 'if you don't look then it's not there' approach. I want to look for it and assess whether it works for me or not (y)
 
Tom Green said:
Its interesting that you posted this, I haven't noticed to this effect before but I zoomed on the wall on flickr and is it me or does it have a slight oil painting type feel to it? (more the wall to the left of the lady)

Cant tell if its just the design of the type of wall.
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Hi Tom, I think it`s the wall as here is another one from a while ago.




Having a read by David Ore, on Flickr
 
Tom Green said:
I think some Fuji owners are so pro-fuji that they won't accept anything that could be an issue and adopt an 'if you don't look then it's not there' approach. I want to look for it and assess whether it works for me or not (y)
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That's a silly thing to say Tom, if I found any such images in my own images I'd be the first to post about them with evidence. And trust me, I do look! I constantly over analyse my images. I have seen some issues here and there, and as far as I'm concerned it is only when you over sharpen Fuji files. Also, I for one am not tied to any make, I've shot Sony, Nikon, Fuji and just bought an Olympus. I didn't know there was a "pro-Fuji" crew! What i don't do is go viewing people's images 100%+ looking for issues, I reserve that kind of anal scrutiny for my own images. Until you find it in your images, why worry on it?
 
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Tom Green said:
Whilst we are on the subject, I saw no issues with this one from Manchester last weekend.

Manchester. by Thomas Green, on Flickr
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Good example of what Fuji do right, great ISO performance. Like I said, I just got an Olympus to try out, and even at lower ISO noise creeps in, much earlier than with a Fuji. But I expected as much, and I'll process those files differently. I use an older X-T1 and it is impressive at noise handling up to 3200, the newer sensors are about a stop better afaik.
 
Cagey75 said:
That's a silly thing to say Tom, if I found any such images in my own images I'd be the first to post about them with evidence. And trust me, I do look! I constantly over analyse my images. I have seen some issues here and there, and as far as I'm concerned it is only when you over sharpen Fuji files. Also, I for one am not tied to any make, I've shot Sony, Nikon, Fuji and just bought an Olympus. I didn't know there was a "pro-Fuji" crew! What i don't do is go viewing people's images 100%+ looking for issues, I reserve that kind of anal scrutiny for my own images. Until you find it in your images, why worry on it?
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Fair enough, I wasn't actually aiming it at you but yes I do feel there are a group of people (not necessarily even on this forum) that would defend anything fuji did. I had read about an issue and I do want to see what it looks like to be honest, if I can't find it in my images then I want to find it in someone else's just out of curiosity really. True on that point.

I have actually been quite happy with my results on fuji thus far.
 
Tom Green said:
Fair enough, I wasn't actually aiming it at you but yes I do feel there are a group of people (not necessarily even on this forum) that would defend anything fuji did. I had read about an issue and I do want to see what it looks like to be honest, if I can't find it in my images then I want to find it in someone else's just out of curiosity really. True on that point.

I have actually been quite happy with my results on fuji thus far.
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I know, but I just prefer to talk on my own experience :) I switched to Fuji from Nikon FF about 1.5 years back, and the same talk about artifacts etc was ongoing back then. I rarely ever experienced it [but I have at times, and found it to be a LR/sharpening issue with Fuji files] , so I'm not being defensive over Fuji or anything, just like to help newer Fuji users realise that it really isn't near as big an issues as some make out. And until you run into it, no point even worrying ;)

I never go above 40 on sharpening, and I use masking [Alt+the masking slider] to narrow sharpening down to where I want it. I find that LR is pretty good at knowing what you're trying to achieve, it'll find the lines you are wanting to sharpen and ignore your nice shallow DOF backdrop when you push the slider up.
 
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Tom Green said:
Fair enough, I wasn't actually aiming it at you but yes I do feel there are a group of people (not necessarily even on this forum) that would defend anything fuji did. I had read about an issue and I do want to see what it looks like to be honest, if I can't find it in my images then I want to find it in someone else's just out of curiosity really. True on that point.

I have actually been quite happy with my results on fuji thus far.
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If you always use LR6, have a play with the sharpen and then you will find out how far you can go. Or do what I do, never use the sharpen as I use Topaz Detail, but not on all my shots :)
 
Phiggys said:
Very nice indeed sometimes not using a ND or grads can be a positive thing as you have shown here (y)
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Cheers Phil, very kind! I do use an ND occasionally (but not reflexively!) but I prefer using multiple exposures when needed, rather than ND grads. I understand the arguments for grad filters, especially if you're a "get it right in the camera" person, but my approach is much more "capture the data you need and put it all together later".
 
I'm with Tom on the wall - it does look a bit odd. Having looked at the other picture though, I agree it's probably just the wall :)
 
Cagey75 said:
Good example of what Fuji do right, great ISO performance. Like I said, I just got an Olympus to try out, and even at lower ISO noise creeps in, much earlier than with a Fuji. But I expected as much, and I'll process those files differently. I use an older X-T1 and it is impressive at noise handling up to 3200, the newer sensors are about a stop better afaik.
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Had the same issue with Olympus M4/3 and noise. I'd come from Nikon FX stuff (think you have too?) and you get used to low iso long exposures being clean as a whistle. I took my Olympus to Dubai and took quite a few long exposures and was surprised to see so much noise at base ISO. It's odd looking back on my bemusement as the noise is perfectly normal, it's just that recent big sensors have made it almost invisible. Anyway, worth noting that the noise was very easy to deal with in LR and completely invisible on largish prints. No particular point to my rambling other than to note that it's surprising how irrelevant 'issues' can be when you actually come to use or print images at normal sizes.
 
Cagey75 said:
Non issue then ... unless Dave wants to return to the spot and take pics with a phone, a compact, a Sony ....
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Haha, your ok using the fuji will do for me. The wall in the gardens are very smooth, but I am happy with the photos. If I was to blow up any photo taken with any camera then I would ALWAYS find a fault in the photo. It would be nice if folk move on from it now, as for me it is old news and getting boring :)
This is not a dig at anyone here either :)
 
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Dave70D said:
Haha, your ok using the fuji will do for me. The wall in the gardens are very smooth, but I am happy with the photos. If I was to blow up any photo taken with any camera then I would ALWAYS find a fault in the photo. It would be nice if folk move on from it now, as for me it is old news and getting boring :)
This is not a dig at anyone here either :)
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Sorry, I didn't mean to dig back up, I was just explaining why I'd not posted in so long

PS I didn't take it personally :)
 
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JohnN said:
Sorry, I didn't mean to dig back up, I was just explaining why I'd not posted in so long

PS I didn't take it personally :)
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Hi John, it was not you but people in general. If folk have heard about Painty/Waxy photos, then why the hell buy the X camera then moan about it :)
 
I'm not an owner, but a prospective one looking advice (hope that's ok).

I have been looking at options to go from a canon 60D to a mirrorless system. I still have a long way to go and need to get my hands on a Fuji yet, but I have nearly ruled out all the other options as I have had a chance to get hands on with them and read numerous comparisons. Any reviews on the Fuji X systems are very complimentary about the handling and button/ dial layout.

Anyway, my choice at the moment is between X-T10 (used) and X-T20. I have read various comments (all taken with a pinch of salt) about both these cameras. My main aim is to get a camera mainly as a walkabout with the odd landscape or sports photos. Even the X-T10 seems leaps ahead of the 60D in terms of dynamic range, low light capabilities etc.

So my choice is to get a X-T10 now and save myself £300+ with the option to upgrade later on, or just go straight for the X-T20.

Wondering what if any big differences I would notice (as a hobbiest photographer) in the two?

Thanks
 
All incremental upgrades really... Bump in resolution, faster processor, higher fps, and of course the touch screen.

As an xt10 owner I havent been tempted enough to upgrade, though if I was starting from scratch I'd probably go for the xt20, if only for the resolution, and the acros film sim.

That said, the spare £300 could be a nice bit of glass... ;)
 
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