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I've been playing with a 7d and love its AF and the automated af point change with portrait vs landscape.

does the 1dIII have the clever bits like that

how does it handle noise (with reference to a 5dII)

how does the IQ compare to my 5dII

how much will the 1.3x crop factor make me want to die (currently using a 28/2.8 for wide angle)

how much money will i be throwing at it?

where do you guys stand on the idea, any thoughts would be apreciated
 
I'd be interested to know too; if I was thinking about moving to full fram, I reckon it'd be between the 1DIII and the 5DII; the former may be 18 months or so older than the other, but what's the difference in useability/performance terms?
 
david1701 said:
I've been playing with a 7d and love its AF and the automated af point change with portrait vs landscape.

does the 1dIII have the clever bits like that
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Can only really answer this one, no it doesnt, the 7D is at least a couple of years newer than a mk3 and the technology has only been introduced in the 7D and Mk4, have never used a 5d II so cant comment on any differences from personal viewpoint
 
Nifkin said:
I'd be interested to know too; if I was thinking about moving to full fram, I reckon it'd be between the 1DIII and the 5DII; the former may be 18 months or so older than the other, but what's the difference in useability/performance terms?
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1D III isnt full frame, its a 1.3 crop body, the 1DS III is full frame and a lot more money.
 
IanC_UK said:
1D III isnt full frame, its a 1.3 crop body, the 1DS III is full frame and a lot more money.
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Um, I know the 1DIII is an APS-H sensor camera, and I also know that the 1Ds III is a full frame and the latest model of the 1Ds line. Sorry I mentioned 'moving to full frame' in my earlier post, but an APS-H is closer to FF after all, but manages to be a bit more agile (for sports or wildlife shooting, etc) than the 1Ds range due to the slightly smaller sensor size. Therefore I was interested to know how the 1DIII and the 5DII compare, as the two options if one wants to move on from an APS-C body, and they can be had for roughly the same price used.
 
aaaah, I like the AF but love my IQ so its a real hard choice. Also its one i want to make before I get a wft as it would be a massive pain to buy the wrong one
 
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Thats at ISO 2500 ! 1d Mk3 and uncropped.
 
aye I work up past 3200 surprisingly often as well as studio work

I'm really really tempted, mifsuds have one in I might email them about a PEX and see how much it will cost me
 
IanC_UK said:
ah right, sorry your post kind of implied moving to a 1d III as full frame :)
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Hey, no probs! I know my first post wasn't very clear. I also appreciate that an FF sensor and an APS-H one aren't the same thing, but I'm guessing that they have more in common IQ-wise than there is when comparing FF to APS-C sensor cameras. I guess the trade off is a bit better IQ (with the 5DII) against better responsiveness (with the 1DIII). And the reason I'm considering a 1DIII over the 7D, say, is because I like the idea of the higher frame rate allied to a larger sensor, as portraiture is one of my interests.

But, saying that, if I do move up, I doubt I'd sell my 50D, so I can keep that for the action stuff, and go for the 5DII for the people photography side of things; seems they could well compliment each other in that respect :thumbs:
 
I bought one(1D3) a few weeks back. The image quality is good and the focusing is great. I also have a 5D MK2 which produces imo better images but will only take certain types of images consistently. It really is as simple as horses for courses sometimes.

If you shoot static subjects or need to print big then the 1d3 is not for you. If you want to capture action and have a camera that is beautifully built the 1d3 is well worth a look.

I would say the 5d2 has a one stop noise advantage plus the extra Resolution. The 1d3 is still however very good at high iso and the files if exposed correctly clean up really well. I believe there is also a custom noise action for the 1d3 which is meant to work very well(flexnr)
 
I'd love a 1d2 because the cost is almost feasible for little me and the body is just pure beautiful. I don't think I've ever seen a camera which I find more sexy than a 1d...
 
wookie6262 said:
I also have a 5D MK2 which produces imo better images but will only take certain types of images consistently.
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Interesting. Can you give us an example of what you mean by only taking certain types of images?
 
Having viewed similar files from both cames I just like the ones from the 5D2 more. That may have alot to do with resolution as I love to look at fine detail. I also shoot at high iso and think the 5d2 just has the edge there particularly when you even up the number of pixels.

In terms of my comment on consistently what I was getting at was.
If I was shooting a moving subject I would get a few really good keepers with the 5D2 but far more with the 1D3. Both cameras take great images its just a little more work if you shoot moving objects with a 5D2 and you won't get consistently as many keepers.

The same could go for landscapes and portraits with the 1D3. If you don't have the time or skill to enable precision in framing and exposure the 5D2 is more forgiving. I think it has slightly more dynamic range from what I read(not had a chance to test that) and it definately has more pixels to crop. Not the approach anyone might recommend but still handy to be able to shoot more and recompose later.
 
wookie6262 said:
Having viewed similar files from both cames I just like the ones from the 5D2 more. That may have alot to do with resolution as I love to look at fine detail. I also shoot at high iso and think the 5d2 just has the edge there particularly when you even up the number of pixels.

In terms of my comment on consistently what I was getting at was.
If I was shooting a moving subject I would get a few really good keepers with the 5D2 but far more with the 1D3. Both cameras take great images its just a little more work if you shoot moving objects with a 5D2 and you won't get consistently as many keepers.

The same could go for landscapes and portraits with the 1D3. If you don't have the time or skill to enable precision in framing and exposure the 5D2 is more forgiving. I think it has slightly more dynamic range from what I read(not had a chance to test that) and it definately has more pixels to crop. Not the approach anyone might recommend but still handy to be able to shoot more and recompose later.
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OK; would you say that the 50D would be a better bet for action photography that the 5DII, due to it's faster fps and smaller file sizes? I'm just wondering, as the idea of a 50D/5DII combo is beginning to appeal to me as a way of satisfying a wide range of options (wildlife, sport, portraiture, landscape, etc). As I mentioned in my earlier post, I had looked at the 1D3 as a onestop-shop in this regard, but from what you're saying, it may not be the best of both.

EDIT: sorry, I guess I'm hijacking :nuts: Didn't mean to; but maybe the OP might want to consider the alternative route of keeping his 5DII and getting another body for action stuff also :thumbs:
 
david1701 said:
I've been playing with a 7d and love its AF and the automated af point change with portrait vs landscape.

does the 1dIII have the clever bits like that
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No :(

how does it handle noise (with reference to a 5dII)
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Not as well :(

how does the IQ compare to my 5dII
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Not as well :(

how much will the 1.3x crop factor make me want to die (currently using a 28/2.8 for wide angle)
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You will want to die :(

how much money will i be throwing at it?
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Probably more than the £1299 they were selling B-Stock cameras for at Focus... :( http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=210261

That's not many smiley smilies :( ID3 is a long-lens speed-machine, and pretty fantastic at that it is too. But it can't compete with a 5D2 if you're really into your IQ and it's the worst of the lot for wide-angles as it won't take EF-S lenses (unless you bodge a 10-22 - sounds like a handy idea that though ;) ).

If it means trading your 5D2, get to try one first.
 
HoppyUK said:
it's the worst of the lot for wide-angles as it won't take EF-S lenses (unless you bodge a 10-22 - sounds like a handy idea that though ;) ).
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Y'know, that had never occurred to me; very very good point :thumbs:
 
To completely disagree with HoppyUK :D

I've been playing with a 7d and love its AF and the automated af point change with portrait vs landscape.

does the 1dIII have the clever bits like that

<<<No auto AF point change from portrait to landscape - you need a 1DIV for that. 1DIII AF will be faster and more accurate>>>

how does it handle noise (with reference to a 5dII)
<<<Much better>>>

how does the IQ compare to my 5dII
<<<Less resolution obviously, but I've blown up it's 10.1mp images to massive posters, and I have a couple of corporate boxes at Twickenham covered with floor-to-ceiling wall linings of my rugby pics and they look fab. For anything fast moving, the 1DIII will give you superb results.>>>

how much will the 1.3x crop factor make me want to die (currently using a 28/2.8 for wide angle)
<<<It obviously wont be as wide, so sell that lens and buy a wider one>>>

how much money will i be throwing at it?
<<<£1500 for a good used one these days>>>
 
HoppyUK said:
it's the worst of the lot for wide-angles as it won't take EF-S lenses (unless you bodge a 10-22 - sounds like a handy idea that though ;) ).
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Not really. It takes Tokina DX lenses really well, and gets as wide as 14-15mm (16mm FF equiv) with 12-24mm. There is no need to butcher anything either. IQ is excellent too.

P.S. I love that youtube link.
 
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