2050 climate change commitment

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48596775

Very laudable and we have to do something, even if, for example, having much better insulation should have come along years ago, but shouldn't we get away from the idea we can offset carbon emissions by planting trees?

While x trees might well absorb x tonnes of CO2 they won't absorb that amount from the moment they are planted as small saplings, so the uptake of the CO2 we produce now might not be absorbed for many years and in the meantime the emitted CO2 contributes to climate change.

Planting trees is a good idea but I wonder how many trees would be needed to offset even say 10% of the current emissions.

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I struggle to see the point when china, Russia and the USA couldn't care less
The reduced of air pollution alone looks like a significant upside. In time both the US and Russsia will care, I suspect not until it is costing them money but they will care. Someone has to take a lead and I can't see why it should not be the UK.
 
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If we were more self sufficient with industries then we could possibly lead the way, but as we have already seen over the last decade or so it certainly pays dividends to ignore the environment, intellectual trademarks, employee and human rights etc.
 
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don't get me wrong and well done us for taking some sort of lead in it, im all for it although i think we have it pretty good over here already. I just wish the coal would hurry up and run out so countries are forced to do something!
 
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Somewhere in the climate change debate there is an element of truth but it's so overlaid with speculation that it's pretty hard to see what that truth is. The fact is we've come a long way already. When I was a boy the air in the cities was never clear and there was always a haze in the country skies. Nowadays our air is nearly as clear as on a Swiss mountain.

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I hope that whatever environmental legislation is passed doesn't include any carbon trading type options as these will IMO dilute what actually happens in reality. Any measures should IMO be solid, real and in the UK and pollution shouldn't be allowed to happen because someone has bought credits from someone else or claimed to have planted a tree in Cambodia (or wherever.)

If we're serious about this we have to do it and not just claim that we're doing it in a box ticking farce.

Oh, and also we need someone with a brain that works driving this not some well meaning tree hugger with a pot addled brain who'll spout wonderful on message stuff but make things worse.
 
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Carbon trading is included in the new proposals.
Aviation seems to be missing.
What happens when the trees you have planted to offset your carbon use die? I read a couple of years ago that all the trees planted to offset a festival were dead within a year!
 
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Yes China are apparently doing a lot of work on renewable energy not enough but it’s a start
Unfortunately with trump in charge the USA will never do anything
I do wonder if this is because they care about the global environment, their own local environment or because they know fossil fuels will not only run out one day but also because it makes you reliant on the nations who provide it?
 
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