5d3, 6d or d600 on a start up budget.

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roughly a budget of £2500 ish not too much over, for the time being,
I like the d600 5d3 and 6d, so which should i do
get the 5d3 with kit lens, and the sell the kit lens + my a580, and get the 24-70 f2.8
or get the 6d, plus the 24/70 f2.8
or the d600 and the 24/70 f2.8 plus speedlite
 
Have you handled all three? The 5D is the biggest/heaviest of the lot, and Nikon and Canon are quite different in terms if layout and controls. Also, is there a reason you've not included a D800 in your options?
 
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If starting from scratch I would pick the 5dmk3.
The d800 would also be worth considering, but I would look at what glass you ultimately want to get in the end and what you shoot.

The nikon 24-70 is better than the canon mk1, but the canon mk2 again tops this.
canon offer a great range of primes and long glass but are not cheap for the top models.
Nikon dont have as good a selection, but there cheaper 1.8G primes cant be beat for price/preformance.

I mainly shoot portrait's and street stuff and use a d800, but I've contemplated many times switching for a 5dmk3, just for the glass selection, the 85/1.2, 50/1.2 and 135/2 are unavailable with nikon and produce stunning images.
Where as the d800 sensor is better than the canon in many respects as is there flash system I hear.

I would go and get some hands on time before buying anything and work out what you want in the long term as bodys get refreshed quicker than glass, other wise you might make a decision you regret.
 
The "kit lens" included with Canon full frames is the 24-105mm f4L, it's no slouch! Then get the flashgun you were thinking.

What will you be shooting?
 
If you have loads of money to spend then the 5D MK III every time for me.

No idea why someone starting out would need any of the bodies listed though... you're talking pro kit or at least semi-pro with the 6D and D600, so I'd probably aim for something much cheaper with like a 650D and a selection of good glass.
 
I will not considered the D600, having ad the oil and dust issue he could really put you right off from the start.
I know if your lucky you will get a good one and they are excellent camera but for me is not worth the risk.
As someone mention this hare not starter body but semi pro or pro,The 6D will be the most easy to use from start and good glass will be cheaper.
Canon 6D +17-50F4 + a good 50mm and a flash and you should stay in budget.
I have a D800 and love it , but it is a big camera.
Wireless trigger and gps will be free on the 6D and about £60 for the adapter on the D600, and for the D800 is extremely expensive.:cool:
 
All I would suggest is to try and handle the various camera bodies. One of them will feel better to use and that is the one you should go with imo ... I'd also add the D800 to the list too.
 
I was tied into Canon lenses and recently had to choose between the 5D3 & 6D. In the end I went for the 6D because I simply did not need the extra bells and whistles offered by the £800 more expensive big brother. In terms of IQ, they are equal, and that £800 saving just adds to the lens fund.

However, if I was buying from scratch I would probably have chosen Nikon. The D600 looks like a stunning piece of kit for the money, and outguns many of the 6D's features for a very similar price. I think Canon has the slightly better lens lineup, but Nikon bodies provide more features for the money.

So, 6D plus 24-70 F/2.8 II is my Canon recommendation (due to the 24-70 II being so great) , or Nikon D600 + 24-70 F/2.8 (for the slightly better featured body). 5D3 & D800 do not offer enough extras to justify their prices, especially when that money could be spent on better lenses which would make a bigger difference for most people, and provide better residuals.
 
What do you want to photograph with it. It it's primarily static subjects then the 6d looks great value for money and produces lovely images. If you want to use it for wildlife then the 5D3 is the one to go for.
 
Gaz J said:
What do you want to photograph with it. It it's primarily static subjects then the 6d looks great value for money and produces lovely images. If you want to use it for wildlife then the 5D3 is the one to go for.
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you have to consider that 5D3 has got much better weather sealing, proper customisable AF and can be at least held in hand (landscape orientation) without much problem. 6D feels like a small toy for some reason.
 
The 6D does feel a bit small, but I have monster hands and don't really have any issue holding it. Also do not underestimate the 6D's AF performance. It may only have 11 AF points (one X type), but it has been equal to my old 7D within every situation I have used it so far.
 
Sorry when i said starter its not my first camera, im essentially moving from minolta/sony ive been doing photography as an overall hobby/passion for about 13 odd years give or take my first camera was the minolta x300 dynax 4 and 5. 4 got stolen and the x300 broke down. I still have my 5. So about two years ago I got the sony a580 which was ok as a hobby camera and ive done a few weddings with the camera which I think was ok at but I found it frustrating having to constantly leave it on manual everything to get a half decent image. It struggles in disco lights and can't auto focus the way I'd like it to. Maybe im doing this wrong but I always try to focus on the eye lash of eyeris the camera tents to choose the face but then the eyes arn't pin sharp also and when the subject is moving fast and erratically it just fails completely especially in speed priority I don't think it even tracks the subject at all.
Anyway so I don't like the d800 just cause of the high noise. I want a very flexible camera, aside from weddings and pre weddings I've got booked for the year im trying to win a few more jobs also. I also want the camera to travel with, around Europe and the Seychelles next year. Anyway I just want to gradually build up on a kit I can rely on.
I've already had my hands on the d600 6d 5d3 and d800
love them all but d800 just isn't for me. It's the sensor is to big. I don't need that much detail
 
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Infinite said:
Sorry when i said starter its not my first camera, im essentially moving from minolta/sony ive been doing photography as an overall hobby/passion for about 13 odd years give or take my first camera was the minolta x300 dynax 4 and 5. 4 got stolen and the x300 broke down. I still have my 5. So about two years ago I got the sony a580 which was ok as a hobby camera and ive done a few weddings with the camera which I think was ok at but I found it frustrating having to constantly leave it on manual everything to get a half decent image. It struggles in disco lights and can't auto focus the way I'd like it to. Maybe im doing this wrong but I always try to focus on the eye lash of eyeris the camera tents to choose the face but then the eyes arn't pin sharp also and when the subject is moving fast and erratically it just fails completely especially in speed priority I don't think it even tracks the subject at all.
Anyway so I don't like the d800 just cause of the high noise. I want a very flexible camera, aside from weddings and pre weddings I've got booked for the year im trying to win a few more jobs also. I also want the camera to travel with, around Europe and the Seychelles next year. Anyway I just want to gradually build up on a kit I can rely on.
I've already had my hands on the d600 6d 5d3 and d800
love them all but d800 just isn't for me. It's the sensor is to big. I don't need that much detail
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In that case you don't want a camera with a kit lens i.e the 5D MK III, you want the 6D with probably either the Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8, or the Canon 24-70mm f/2.8

The bonus of the 6D is it's very light so travelling with it will be easier too than the 5D MK III

I have both and prefer the 5D MK III but at £2k + the cost of decent glass (between £900 and about £1.5k depending if you go Tamron or Canon) it's out of your price bracket. You can however pick up the 6D & the Canon 24-70mm L within your budget.

Edit - just realised you said you'd sell the Sony to add to the budget... might want to hang on to it so you have a back up camera and lens incase the 6D for example packed in half way through a wedding. I've had this twice, once with a 7D and once with the 5D MK III... believe me you wouldn't want to be in that situation with a back up camera... I had one and it literally saved the day!)
 
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There is no noise issue on the 800 and even less so if you down sample, which probably you will be doing all the time anyway, considering the resolution. It's a good camera. The 600 I would not recommend, it is a great camera but the dust/oil issues made it unusable for me. The 5d is a good camera and if you don't need the utmost in sensor performance (resolution to dynamic range ratio) then it might be the camera for you.
 
I don't do the weddings on my own I normally have back up camera's from the team but I do like working with two camera's
The lens ranges I plan on getting step by step
Are 70-200 and 200 -500
28-300
And a few primes the thing I don't like about the d800 is im not a massive fan of using flash even in low light so tend to rely alot on the iso, and yea I am worried about the weight of the gear, but that I can always work out later, I am sort of leaning towards the 5d3 but the 6d I wouldn't need to sell my 580 I guess, ive held and played with all 4 cameras I must say I don't massively like the handling of the d600 but at the price and the features its hard to brush of especially that depth of field is nice. The only thing that puts me of the 6d is the auto focus in movie and normal and I don't like diving into the menu to change the iso and I didn't feel it was much better then my 580 if anything i though it seemed better at solid colours it wasn't too good on transparent colours. But im sure there are ways to play with the settings. The only the I really like about the 5d3 is that auto focus
And about 10 odd years ago I had my x300 pack up on at a wedding but I didn't realise it until after because it was the film days and the shutter was only half opening and it sounded fine until you process the film. Lucky I wasn't the main photographer there I was just backup
 
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AchimT said:
There is no noise issue on the 800 and even less so if you down sample, which probably you will be doing all the time anyway, considering the resolution. It's a good camera. The 600 I would not recommend, it is a great camera but the dust/oil issues made it unusable for me. The 5d is a good camera and if you don't need the utmost in sensor performance (resolution to dynamic range ratio) then it might be the camera for you.
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+1 no noise on the D800 and it's a great camera and you feel like you have spend your money well when you handle it.
I ad the D600 and beside the oil issue ,he didn't felt like a £1500 camera in my hand .
 
What about a good, warranted used FF body - something like a 5d2, D3, D700 - to save money and put it towards good glass.
 
I purchased the 600 in February and it had the problem massively. On the Internet I have not read from anyone who had his problem solved by Nikon service, so I personally have seen no evidence that the problem has been solved.
 
Infinite said:
I don't do the weddings on my own I normally have back up camera's from the team but I do like working with two camera's
The lens ranges I plan on getting step by step
Are 70-200 and 200 -500
28-300
And a few primes the thing I don't like about the d800 is im not a massive fan of using flash even in low light so tend to rely alot on the iso, and yea I am worried about the weight of the gear, but that I can always work out later, I am sort of leaning towards the 5d3 but the 6d I wouldn't need to sell my 580 I guess, ive held and played with all 4 cameras I must say I don't massively like the handling of the d600 but at the price and the features its hard to brush of especially that depth of field is nice. The only thing that puts me of the 6d is the auto focus in movie and normal and I don't like diving into the menu to change the iso and I didn't feel it was much better then my 580 if anything i though it seemed better at solid colours it wasn't too good on transparent colours. But im sure there are ways to play with the settings. The only the I really like about the 5d3 is that auto focus
And about 10 odd years ago I had my x300 pack up on at a wedding but I didn't realise it until after because it was the film days and the shutter was only half opening and it sounded fine until you process the film. Lucky I wasn't the main photographer there I was just backup
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You don't have to go in to the menu's to change the ISO on a 6D, it's done exactly the same way as all Canon DSLR's I've used, i.e the button on the right shoulder
 
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