Adobe rgb or srgb in camera?

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Hello,


I did a landscape course recently and the pro said always shoot adobe in the camera as I was shooting srgb, I use photoshop and Lightroom mainly my question is, should I leave it at the adobe or whats your take on it people

Thanks
 
Strange that you should ask as I was Reading something not too long ago regarding this and the article recommended the adobe setting.
I have recently changed to this myself but haven't really had any chance to get out and about to see if it makes any difference.
Believe this setting gives a wider spectrum of colours but I'm sure someone will be along shortly to give us both the definitive answer.
Thanks for asking the question.

V
 
If you have all the necessary software etc to handle Adobe RGB it will probably produce a better picture because it has a wider colour gamut.

If you haven't and you try to use it, your colours will come out a bit flat and on a lot of cameras your filenames w3ill go wonky. ;)
 
Whether you set Adobe RGB or sRGB in camera only matters if you're shooting TiFFS or jpegs. If you're shooting in raw (and you probably should be) then it doesn't matter what colour space you have set in camera as the colour space isn't assigned to the image and you can choose either colour space at the raw editing stage.

sRGB means simple RGB and was the result of a collaboration a few years ago between Microsoft and I think Hewlett Packard IIRC - the idea being to create a colour space which would enable all of us viewing images on different monitors to see pretty much the same thing without necessarily having to calibrate monitors beyond their default settings.

Adobe RGB is a wider colour space in that it can display a wider range of colours, but it isn't a night and day difference and it does require that you properly calibrate your printer and monitor. The real advantage of Adobe RGB is in printing so you need to go the calibration route if you intend to work in this colour space and that can be a trial to say the least- you'll need to calibrate your monitors and printers and get proper profiles for each. . Also if you work in Adobe RGB and wish to publish any images on the web you'll need to convert them to sRGB for them to display properly.

If you use a commercial printer you'll need to find one who actually knows how to get the best out of Adobe RGB and the fact is most are quite happy for you to send them sRGB images.

The bottom line is the pro was probably right if you shoot jpeg or tiffs - but you should be shooting raw anyway. ;) FWIW my cameras are set to sRGB.
 
Yes I shoot in raw so it shouldn't make a difference but if I ever shoot raw + jpg is it smart to say just leave the setting in adobe and obviously it will make a difference if I changed to raw+jpg


Thanks for your help by the way everyone
 
Unless you can carry your workflow all the way through to final print in Adobe RGB then stick with sRGB, especially if shooting to JPEG.

With JPEG you have little enough data per pixel as it is and you really don't need to be wasting those limited bits and bytes on out of gamut colours that will be discarded when you finally decide to switch to the sRGB colour space some point further down the line. Furthermore, unless you are well versed in colour management it will probably give you a smoother ride if you stick with sRGB. Use Adobe RGB if you have a good reason to, sRGB if you don't. Not many people do. sRGB is the standard for all display on monitors. Most printers will also expect sRGB. Why try to make life any harder than necessary?
 
I didn't start this thread but I'm glad someone did.

Looks like I'll be going back to SRGB after the advice on here. Pointless making life difficult.

Never had this problem with the old film cameras I used so many years ago :-)

Thankyou all.

V
 
I initially started out using Argb (in camera & in photoshop) based on a few "pro" articles I read, I decided a while ago though that it offers little or no adavantage to me personally as all the rest of my workflow requires Srgb (monitor viewing, home and online printing). Pretty much all print companies request Srgb and unless you have a high end home printer and high end home monitor you can't take advantage of the wider gamut range. I always shoot RAW and keep the files so if things ever change I can always re-process but for the time being Argb just doesn't make sense to me

Simon
 
I read a guide the other day that recommended Adobe but reading this has made me change back to sRGB. I never realised it had all these 'problems'.
 
Adobe RGB gives the best results when using Adobe software.
 
unless your monitor and printer can acutally output adobe RGB there is no point in using it.
 
There are several colour profiles available to use all with a slightly difference colour gamut including:
Adobe RGB
Apple RGB
Colormatch RGB
PRoPhoto RGB
sRGB

Then there are individuals ones to suit your printer and paper, so as has already been said you need to use one throughout your entire workflow from capture to final output. If your shooting raw then any and all are available as the profile is applied by your software.

If shooting jpeg then your choices are limited to just the two, Adobe or sRGB.

Now very few monitors can show the full Adobe profile so if your outputting for the web you really have to stick to sRGB.

If your final results are going to be in print, you'll need to ensure that your printer or lab have the facility to work with Adobe RGB, and you'll need to invest in a Adobe compatible monitor for yourself.

Aperture: Color and gamma settings for print and web said:
Labs and Internet-based services using the RA-4 wet process, such as in a Fuji Frontier minilab, almost universally expect you to use a 2.2 gamma in the sRGB IEC1966-2.1 color space. That's true for services such as Pictage, Smugmug, and Shutterfly.
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The default sRGB from a Canon EOS camera is sRGB IEC1966-2.1
 
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Whether you set Adobe RGB or sRGB in camera only matters if you're shooting TiFFS or jpegs. If you're shooting in raw (and you probably should be) then it doesn't matter what colour space you have set in camera as the colour space isn't assigned to the image and you can choose either colour space at the raw editing stage.

sRGB means simple RGB and was the result of a collaboration a few years ago between Microsoft and I think Hewlett Packard IIRC - the idea being to create a colour space which would enable all of us viewing images on different monitors to see pretty much the same thing without necessarily having to calibrate monitors beyond their default settings.

Adobe RGB is a wider colour space in that it can display a wider range of colours, but it isn't a night and day difference and it does require that you properly calibrate your printer and monitor. The real advantage of Adobe RGB is in printing so you need to go the calibration route if you intend to work in this colour space and that can be a trial to say the least- you'll need to calibrate your monitors and printers and get proper profiles for each. . Also if you work in Adobe RGB and wish to publish any images on the web you'll need to convert them to sRGB for them to display properly.

If you use a commercial printer you'll need to find one who actually knows how to get the best out of Adobe RGB and the fact is most are quite happy for you to send them sRGB images.

The bottom line is the pro was probably right if you shoot jpeg or tiffs - but you should be shooting raw anyway. ;) FWIW my cameras are set to sRGB.
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Best post I've seen for ages; clear, concise and easy to understand..... :)
 
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