Advice on telescopes and astrophotography

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I was lucky enough to recieve a total of £150 of Amazon vouchers for xmas and I have been looking at a new telescope to conect my dslr to. Now when I say new I have only got a cheap celestrion one that although is ok for looking at the moon you only have to blink at it and you then have to spend another 10mins trying to set it up again plus you cant connect a camera to it ! !
As you can imagine amazon has a mine field of scopes so im after some advice on what I need including bits for the slr to connect to it?
Thanks
 
Don't waste money on anything less than a Meade ETX telescope and, if possible, not smaller than 125mm.
It's the very least you'll need for decent photos and connecting to the computer.
I recommend Telescope House in Tunbridge Wells. (I have no connection to them other than as a customer of theirs).
There is a lot of info/guidance on their website.
There have been some fantastic astro photos posted on here fairly recently.
There are astro societies in most towns where you'll pick up all the info you'll need before parting with any money if you don't trust the outlets.
 
Thank you for the reply and some useful info there. There are so many types and i know i haven't got a massive budget but it was just something i was looking into as i have always had a fascination with space and would love to combine it with my love of photography.
 
Astrophotography is a very expensive hobby to get anywhere near decent images. Instead of a telescope you could maybe consider an Astrotrac. I've never used one, but I've seen the results from them and they can be excellent.

Basically anything that you know in photography you need to forget for astro work - It's a different ball game.

There's a couple of decent astro forums that you may like to consider looking at. Do a google search and one of the biggest UK ones is Stargazerslounge. Masses of info on there.

Hope that helps.
 
I am a failed astrophotographer.

My first obstacle was just buying the telescope. The proprietor of the shop had obviously seen it all before, and even
though I was prepared (and expecting) to spend a fair wedge of cash, he was pretty much of the view that I should get a
fairly basic telescope, learn how it all works, find my way around the sky, and then, and only then, attach a camera to it.

So I left with an inexpensive but decent Celstron with the adaptors required for attaching a DSLR. He was a guy into astronomy,
taking pictures of his hobby, rather than somebody who likes taking pictures looking for new subject matter.

The problems were only just starting. Have you noticed the weather in this country? In summer the days are pretty long,
and I work full time with a long commute. This means for about six months of the year going out in the dark for any
duration of time is not that easy. For the other six months it is usually cloudy or raining. Or freezing. So you maybe
have couple of dozen days a year where it is even possible to do this sort of photography. Then there are evenings where we
have other commitments, or just can't be bothered lugging a telescope outside.

Do you live in the middle of nowhere? I do, but I still have neighbours, and setting foot in my back garden sets off their
security lights. I have a bit of space between my house and next door's where I am not bothered by lights... until they go
to the bathroom. Weather, living in the northern hemisphere, and light pollution are all against you.
So, the conditions are right and you go outside with the camera and telescope. But its dark, how do you align this thing in
the dark? Back indoors to read the instructions, more time wasted. Sure you can practice, but with only a few days a year
available, how viable in practice?

Then there are the pictures. Rubbish. Hard to focus, vignetting, generally poor. Much better results achieved using just
a camera, tripod, and big lens. Again practice would help, but as above.

I am sure spending a load of money on a telescope would yield better results, with less hassle, but with so few
opportunities to use it, is it worth the cash? I am also convinced that with photography as a hobby already being a bit of
a money pit, astrophotography would be a deeper one times 10, probably ending up getting a holiday home in the French Alps
or Ardeche.

Which is a very long way of saying, if you live in the UK, have a job, and sometimes do other stuff in the evening, spend
your 150 quid on something else.

Or maybe I quit too easily.
 
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£150 is nowhere near enough to get started in astrophotography, unless you want to limit yourself to photographing the moon.
For anything else, even getting the very basics right is going to skin you. You could probably get a half-decent SkyWatcher brand telescope, with a reasonable aperture (100mm+) for £150. But then you're going to need a very good, sturdy, equatorial mount, which is going to cost more than the telescope itself. Something like this is probably the very least you could get away with, so that's another £250 at least. Then you'll be looking at some kind of motor to drive the mount so it tracks the apparent movement of objects across the night sky; without this you can forget about long exposures. At the very least, you're looking at about £60-100 for a basic motor which will move your mount at the appropriate rate. You're also going to need to align your scope with the pole star, otherwise your motor is useless. For this you'll need to spend about £30-40 on a polar scope (and you'll also need to invest a lot of time and patience learning how to use it correctly). Your dSLR adaptor will be about a tenner. If you want to do planetary imaging on a budget (don't expect incredible, detailed images), you'll probably need to get a 3X Barlow lens, or an eyepiece projection adaptor, so that's another £40-100.

And that's all just an outright beginner's kit, which will get you started and help you learn the principles but it won't have you producing the kind of "WOW" deep sky or planetary images that we think of when we think of astrophotography.

Then you have to learn a whole litany of techniques that are not easy: polar alignment (this is an honest-to-god nightmare, and if you get it wrong, your exposures will not be sharp, and may be utterly unusable), star-hopping, locating objects that you can barely see, focusing the image on your sensor through a telescope, stacking, etc. Factor in the Great British weather, the long hours in the cold and pitch dark necessary to practice your technique, finding good dark sky sites (forget it if you live in a town or city), the fact that astronomy season only lasts about six months of the year, then actually learning all of these skills to a satisfactory level becomes an outrageous frustration.

I'm a keen amateur astronomer, and I've dabbled in astrophotography, producing some images that have pleased me in a "that's quite cool" sort of way, but are far, far, far below the standard I would want before showing anyone else. I don't have the time, or money, needed to get more serious about it.

So, before investing any money in astrophotography, ask yourself how much you're really going to put into it, and how much you expect to get out of it.
 
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I attempted it last night about 11:30pm
Was nice and clear
Had my dads telescope with my 7D (which was a bit heavy with a grip on)
Could see jupiter (we think (4 moons))
But it was a bit windy
So I recommend a very sturdy tripod
And do not try it in the wind
I also had a wired remote
But still got blurred photos. :-(
 
Thanks for all the input guys think it may have changed some ideas that I might have had.
maybe I should change this thread to 'what shall a spend my Amazon vouchers on'
 
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