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Hi this might be a silly question but are cameras (canon 550d) allowed into music concerts, ive got a few tickets for the 3js (joe, jagged edge, jon b) concert at birmingham ballrooom next week and would love to take my camera but unsure if im allowed as this is the first concert ive ever been to...
 
as said above check with the organisers as sometimes they might have an offical tog there
 
Adrian :nono:
This has been discussed at length and Acetone is spot on...
Different venues and even different concerts at the same venue will have different restrictions.
Phone cameras and compact cameras MAY be treated differently to DSLRs, do not assume anything.
There may be small print on your ticket (worth a read); but safest bet is to contact the venue.
 
boliston said:
That really is daft when you consider most fans will have a camera built into their phones. I would not give my custom to an organisation that had silly rules on cameras as I take my camera pretty much everywhere I go.
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To be blunt, it's actually your own view that's a little unreasonable. There's a HUGE difference between a camera phone and a DSLR. It's very unlikely that someone with a camera phone will be able to take photos that they are able to sell to the press, whereas the same cannot be said of someone with a DSLR. If you want to take a DSLR to a concert, get a press photo pass.

Bands have a right to prevent people from making money off their image.
 
boliston said:
That really is daft when you consider most fans will have a camera built into their phones. I would not give my custom to an organisation that had silly rules on cameras as I take my camera pretty much everywhere I go.
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Don't then.
 
most say that no camreas with detachable lens. you can nomally use super zoom bridge cameras .

some dont alow any photography it all depends on the venue and also the proformers.

camera phones are not of the same quality as dslrs so are more for private use

Cheers Steve
 
Some venues will pat you down on the way IN to a gig, just to make sure you're not hiding anything. Usually cans or bottles, sharp thingies, and so on, but that could also be cameras...

And then I've been to one gig in particular where they patted everyone down on the way OUT - so just because you managed to get something in, don't get complacent and get caught with it on the way out...
 
onona said:
To be blunt, it's actually your own view that's a little unreasonable. There's a HUGE difference between a camera phone and a DSLR. It's very unlikely that someone with a camera phone will be able to take photos that they are able to sell to the press, whereas the same cannot be said of someone with a DSLR. If you want to take a DSLR to a concert, get a press photo pass.

Bands have a right to prevent people from making money off their image.
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Bands make their money from their music,which we buy,also from tickets sales from the concert.
If band want to stop photographer,making money from their image,how the hell is the music press going to survive :D
 
thanks for the replies i will ring them up tomorrow and check with them, if i cant use my slr then hopefully i can use my s90 compact
 
Ive had a photo pass and been refused entry with my DSLR!
Thankfully the mainman of the headlining band happened to be walking past and spotted me arguing with the security and told him where to go.

Ive never been to a venue where a DSLR is allowed in without a media/press pass.
 
I've been to concerts where they've stated no photography, reminded at the start of no photography and warned people would be thrown out.

Flashes go off from cameras and security moved in and escorted people out the concert aft only approx 15 mins.
 
simonblue said:
Bands make their money from their music,which we buy,also from tickets sales from the concert.
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No they don't make their money from their music, this is a common misconception. With so many people pirating music these days, most bands actually make their money from touring and selling merchandise.
 
onona said:
No they don't make their money from their music, this is a common misconception. With so many people pirating music these days, most bands actually make their money from touring and selling merchandise.
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Most small bands would barely make a living from touring or selling merchandise,and the big band or stars still make a lot of money from their music. :)
 
simonblue said:
Most small bands would barely make a living from touring or selling merchandise,and the big band or stars still make a lot of money from their music. :)
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A couple of years ago, Billboard ran an article on top-grossing artists. Springsteen was top of the pile, but even he only made $200k from music downloads... The big money these days is in touring...
 
Catdaddy said:
A couple of years ago, Billboard ran an article on top-grossing artists. Springsteen was top of the pile, but even he only made $200k from music downloads... The big money these days is in touring...
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...and the Boss never stops touring at three hours+ a gig, legend.

When I were a boy, it used to be the other way round, in that tours were a loss leader to promote album sales.
 
DemiLion said:
Wrong again; at least the police part is.

Keep going, you'll get something right one day.
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So if the "police part" is wrong then I can still assume that for a member of staff at a concert to confiscate a personal possession of a customer would be a criminal offence?

As far as I see it their only legal remedy would be to ask the customer to leave the premises.

(I'd assume that the police might be able to take a card if the owner of the card was in the process of committing a criminal act or had just finished committing one, but not simply for disobeying some arbitrary contractual issue regarding photography, as this would be purely a "civil matter")
 
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boliston said:
So if the "police part" is wrong then I can still assume that for a member of staff at a concert to confiscate a personal possession of a customer would be a criminal offence?

As far as I see it their only legal remedy would be to ask the customer to leave the premises.

(I'd assume that the police might be able to take a card if the owner of the card was in the process of committing a criminal act or had just finished committing one, but not simply for disobeying some arbitrary contractual issue regarding photography, as this would be purely a "civil matter")
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There are a number of circumstances where the police can seize a memory card or film covered by a variety of Acts, what they can't do however is order you to delete the photographs against your will.

You can assume what you like, but blanket statements when it comes to the law will almost always be incorrect.
 
AFAIK, the police can seize a card under certain circumstances, but only a court can order confiscation in the permanent sense. I assume venue security could ask you to surrender the card or the camera, as a condition of entry, but would have to return it when you leave.
 
boliston said:
So if the "police part" is wrong then I can still assume that for a member of staff at a concert to confiscate a personal possession of a customer would be a criminal offence?

As far as I see it their only legal remedy would be to ask the customer to leave the premises.

(I'd assume that the police might be able to take a card if the owner of the card was in the process of committing a criminal act or had just finished committing one, but not simply for disobeying some arbitrary contractual issue regarding photography, as this would be purely a "civil matter")
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This pre supposes that you are allowed into the gig with a DSLR in the first instance, which makes any thing else a moot point.
 
I think it's dependant on the size of the venue I go to smaller venue's (Robin2 Bilston,River Rooms Stourbridge) where we are talking lesser known bands and they are quite happy for you to go along with DSLR's wander along the front of the stage and snap away to your hearts content as long as you dont get in anyone's way
 
CaptainPenguin said:
I think it's dependant on the size of the venue I go to smaller venue's (Robin2 Bilston,River Rooms Stourbridge) where we are talking lesser known bands and they are quite happy for you to go along with DSLR's wander along the front of the stage and snap away to your hearts content as long as you dont get in anyone's way
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... and I think that sums it up well.

It's difficult to make generalisations, but local gigging bands will probably be relatively happy, whilst those that have made vinyl are going to be more protective of their image.

De answer am to enquire in advance; unless you're Neal and want to watch ShowSec rolling on the floor in apoplexy! :D
 
sirkuk said:
I haven't been to a single concert where cameras have been allowed. If you get caught, it's often the case they confiscate your memory card.
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Security guards have no power to confiscate ANY property belonging to a member of the public. They have limited powers of arrest (this needs to be backed up by the police ASAP), but at the end of the day they are not the police and are subject to the same laws as the rest of us. They can of course ask you to leave a concert immediately if you break the rules of the venue.
 
by baying tickets you are agreeing to the terms of the venue, so if there is adaquate signs stating no photography or restricted use of cameras , then you are breaking the rules of the venue as stated earlier in the thread. If in doubt you should contact the venue and ask about photography. prefably before you pay for the ticket.

one venue i know of states no cameras with detachable lens (ie no SLR film or digital and no compact system cameras)


Cheers Steve
 
CaptainPenguin said:
I think it's dependant on the size of the venue I go to smaller venue's (Robin2 Bilston,River Rooms Stourbridge) where we are talking lesser known bands and they are quite happy for you to go along with DSLR's wander along the front of the stage and snap away to your hearts content as long as you dont get in anyone's way
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That's pretty much my experience too. Small gigs aren't normally a problem, although I was refused entry with my 50d at a theatre gig in Woking because "we don't allow big cameras in". I took it back to the car, only to go in and find loads of people with bridge cameras and several with decent quality DSLR's :(
 
I contacted them and was told compact cameras are ok, but no professional cameras (detachable lenses) so il be taking my s90 with me hopefully i can manage to get some good pictures.
 
richn said:
I contacted them and was told compact cameras are ok, but no professional cameras (detachable lenses) so il be taking my s90 with me hopefully i can manage to get some good pictures.
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or not take a camera and just enjoy the music :thumbs:

:)
 
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