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Went to a members only event at the British Wildlife Centre. As expected, there were a lot of photographers. At least half of them were selfish ****ers!

Would do anything and everything to get to the front, and then stand there all the time so no one gets a look in.

When I made it to the front, I took my shots, and then let another tog through. No one else did the same.

If this is what they're all like, then next time, I'm getting nasty.

If you are (were) one of these annoying people, then please have a but more consideration as you're not the only tog in the world!

Rant over!

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You are under the assumption that somehow they are wrong and you are right.

Other people will not necessarily have the same values as you, and thus there's two sides to the coin; why should they give up their spot for you? Maybe they waited a long time for it. Maybe you need to get there earlier next time?

So, instead of blaming others ask what you yourself can do differently next time.
 
gnom said:
You are under the assumption that somehow they are wrong and you are right.

Other people will not necessarily have the same values as you, and thus there's two sides to the coin; why should they give up their spot for you? Maybe they waited a long time for it. Maybe you need to get there earlier next time?

So, instead of blaming others ask what you yourself can do differently next time.
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Does that mean you were there? No they weren't there first. They quite obviously pushed their way to the front. Maybe I was wrong for not pushing, but I have manners.....
 
No, I have never heard of it. As always I'm roaming the streets of London getting in peoples faces with my camera.

Again, you're expecting other people to behave according your standards. That's probably not going to happen; so blaming and bickering is probably just a waste of creativity and energy.

Don't let other people ruin your fun.

Now, with that said I can totally relate to what you're saying, and I can see why you'd think it's annoying.
 
andycallaghan said:
Does that mean you were there? No they weren't there first. They quite obviously pushed their way to the front. Maybe I was wrong for not pushing, but I have manners.....
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Lol. Stood for 5 mins at slimbridge today as someone was trying to get a shot of a pidgeon on a gate. The bird didn't want to to be photographed and kept turning away.

Where's the wildlife centre? Anywhere near London by chance?
 
Unfortunately, it seems to be the norm in this country nowadays. Everyone has a 'me, me, me' attitude, and sod everybody else. You see it in all areas of life, and it's a sad indictment of the society we are now living in.
 
andycallaghan said:
Does that mean you were there? No they weren't there first. They quite obviously pushed their way to the front. Maybe I was wrong for not pushing, but I have manners.....
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Good man. I think we need to maintain our standars regardless of how far others wish to lower theirs.
But, it is a waste of time/energy trying to get them to raise their standards, not that you shouldnt try :)

I was in Rome a while back and had to ask the people next to me to "shut up" whilst in the Cistene Chapel (sp?), its a church after all and one should be aware of that and act accordingly, not blast out idle chit chat.
(sorry bit off topic)

Matt
 
:thumbsdown: If I ever see you in a que I'll just barge in front of you and not let anyone else past.

gnom said:
You are under the assumption that somehow they are wrong and you are right.

Other people will not necessarily have the same values as you, and thus there's two sides to the coin; why should they give up their spot for you? Maybe they waited a long time for it. Maybe you need to get there earlier next time?

So, instead of blaming others ask what you yourself can do differently next time.
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Im about 5ft 6, so quite small and nothing ****es me off more, when at a gig, or at a photo event or at the cinema when some lanky b****r stands right in front of me. Its just downright rude and no excuse for it. It would make difference for them to stand behind me, but no... They must be at the front.

At gigs they often get a swift elbow to the Davina's, but I cant always get away with it in other situations.
 
POAH said:
:thumbsdown: If I ever see you in a que I'll just barge in front of you and not let anyone else past.
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Well you would :D

aye it is annoying, some folk are so selfish, togs are famous for standing other togs way, how many times have you been about to take a shot and up pops a tog and stands right in front of you without any concern or though, :thumbsdown:

last year we were at an event, with carrabean dancers, and we couldnt get descent clear shot because a certain tog was up in the middle of them, like he owned the place, :thumbsdown:
 
POAH said:
:thumbsdown: If I ever see you in a que I'll just barge in front of you and not let anyone else past.
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Be my guest. Things like that happen on a daily basis - one of the perks of living in London - but it does not bother me.

You see, it's all about how we choose to perceive the event; you can either get annoyed or just think of something else instead and save you the bad temper.

I'm just trying to convey that the world does not necessarily see things as you do; and by saying your way of thinking and acting is better - well, that's just narrow minded.
 
gnom said:
Be my guest. Things like that happen on a daily basis - one of the perks of living in London - but it does not bother me.
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Being small is a pain when it come to 6ft built like brick **** houses stands in front of you

gnom said:
You see, it's all about how we choose to perceive the event;
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What like the shot you could have got :bang:
 
Just Dave said:
Being small is a pain when it come to 6ft built like brick **** houses stands in front of you
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I understand what you mean, and perhaps I'm biased; being a 6'2, 16 stone ex-MMA fighter I tend to get left alone.

Just Dave said:
What like the shot you could have got :bang:
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What if you'd said, "Excuse me, would you mind letting me through so I can take a few pictures?" - chances are that you probably would have gotten that shot you wanted.
 
I went to Focus last year and left after an hour, even though I drove 80 miles to get there and queued for 20 minutes to get it.

Why...

Because it was full of ignorent people that barged and pushed me, and the final straw was when stood at a stand waiting patiently to get a demo of sensor cleaning and buy some products and a bloke pushed in front of me. I had been waiting my turn for about 15 minutes. That day that person learnt how much he'd peed me off and got politely but loudly told there was a queue and he wasn't at the front of it, I was.

Sorry Gnom there is absolutely no excuse for rudeness and lack of manners.
 
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The OP would never make it as a press photographer!
 
When you have to get the picture - you get the picture! :)
 
nope, never had it happen.

Just Dave said:
aye it is annoying, some folk are so selfish, togs are famous for standing other togs way, how many times have you been about to take a shot and up pops a tog and stands right in front of you without any concern or though, :thumbsdown:

last year we were at an event, with carrabean dancers, and we couldnt get descent clear shot because a certain tog was up in the middle of them, like he owned the place, :thumbsdown:
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andycallaghan said:
I don't want to. But I will make it as a kind and respected human......
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Interesting; I'm sure whoever got in your way is also seen as kind and respectful by the people who know him/her.

Sorry for taking this into a philosophical discussion about morals and ethics. :)
 
awp said:
because while he stood wimping in the background - we'd get our pictures and go home! :)
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But they didn't "get their pictures and go home". They just stood there taking hundreds of photos!

After they knew (or at least thought) they got their shot, they should have made way for "fellow" photographers.

Anyway, I think my rant is over. I feel angry for them being dicks, but feel happy that I did the respectful thing.
 
POAH said:
how do you know that?
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because I see it every other day!

andycallaghan said:
But they didn't "get their pictures and go home". They just stood there taking hundreds of photos!

After they knew (or at least thought) they got their shot, they should have made way for "fellow" photographers.

Anyway, I think my rant is over. I feel angry for them being dicks, but feel happy that I did the respectful thing.
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...and did you get the picture you wanted? If so what is your problem?
 
awp said:
because I see it every other day!



...and did you get the picture you wanted? If so what is your problem?
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Yes I did get some. But only the amount I required.
Not hundreds "just because I could"!

Maybe I just feel sorry for the other togs who didn't manage to get their shots because of the "selfish" ones.
 
If you got the picture you wanted - what is the problem?
 
awp said:
If you got the picture you wanted - what is the problem?
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As above.....

Maybe I just feel sorry for the other togs who didn't manage to get their shots because of the "selfish" ones.

Or am I not allowed to think about anyone other than myself?! Is that how photography works in your world?

Anyway, I'm gonna get this thread locked as I can see it going downhill......
 
You need to chill and just look after no 1.
 
If I was around at any shoot Andy I would want you in front of me ,manners are a very rare thing nowadays and it may be old fashioned but good for you for standing up for and displaying them
 
andycallaghan said:
they should have made way for "fellow" photographers.
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Says who? Are they not allowed to stand wherever they want, for however long they want? Did you ask them to move so you could get through?

You are implicitly saying that you expect people to act in a way that's beneficial to you. But you have to remember, most of the time people only have their own self-interests in mind - as you've just demonstrated by getting annoyed over the fact that you didn't get what you wanted.

I agree that common decency suggests letting everybody have a piece of the pie, but that's just not going to happen.
 
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