@hoppyUK,Tony Northrop on the EOS-R vs Canon 5D4 "...the 5D4 is a much better overall camera." That's it in a nutshell, unless there is some specific feature on the EOS-R that you need. @ 2.00m
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1XXwUBhb0w
Been there and wound up with a 5D4 (brilliant camera IMO).Hi Everyone.
This mainly aimed at Canon users but I was thinking a getting Mk4 but also tempted with the EOS R.... has any one had experience using both camera bodies if so what are your thoughts.
Been there and wound up with a 5D4 (brilliant camera IMO).
The canon mirrorless is a system which appears to be in its infancy. My gut feeling (and nothing more) is that mirrorless has some way to go before it is a viable option to Canon DSLR systems.
As for experience with both, mine is limited to an ef lens mounted on a dealer EOS R. It is an odd sensation using a 70-200 on a rather diminutive R body.
Without wishing to start an argument, perfection means something different to different people.The way I see it, camera manufacturers are still working to perfect the full frame mirrorless camera system, whereas they've pretty much got there with DSLRs such as the Canon 5D4 and the Nikon 850. If I were to upgrade at the moment it would be to a 5D4, as it would just mean changing the camera body rather than my whole lens system as well. I'd watch and wait to see how mirrorless full frame goes, and leave the test piloting and guinea pigging to others.
This approach worked well enough for me when autofocus SLRs were launched, and when DSLRs first came out too. If money is no object then it can be fun to try the latest kit, if not, then I find it's best to wait until there becomes a definite disadvantage to not making the change.
Without wishing to start an argument, perfection means something different to different people.
What's perfect for me may not suit you and vice versa.
I also think far too much emphasis is placed on autofocus these days.
We recently had a talk at our club from a chap extolling the virtues of Lumix compact cameras for street photography.
He made a big thing about the touch focus ability of the Lumix, but all the while I kept thinking "Just use manual focus!"
Having recently purchased a 5D IV, I have no intention of switching cameras, however favourable the reviews of new models.
The EOS R and 5D IV appear to have very similar, if not the same, sensors, so you are unlikely to see any discernable difference on similar sized prints.
We each want/need different things, so this is just my finidngs, but in my case ive taken 17 shots with my 5d4 since last May, and close to 3,000 with my Canon M50. Im giving up on FF DSLR this year by the looks of it.. My gut feeling (and nothing more) is that mirrorless has some way to go before it is a viable option to Canon DSLR systems.
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Perhaps I did not word my response well.We each want/need different things, so this is just my finidngs, but in my case ive taken 17 shots with my 5d4 since last May, and close to 3,000 with my Canon M50. Im giving up on FF DSLR this year by the looks of it.
We get it! Sony are hot atm ... does every thread on here have to end up as pretty much a Sony one though? they're the iphone of photography right now in my eyes
We get it! Sony are hot atm ... does every thread on here have to end up as pretty much a Sony one though? they're the iphone of photography right now in my eyes
Quite. We need more balanced views, with a bit of M4/3-bashing thrown in
I have owned a 5D-4 but replaced it with a 1DX-2 and I also have an EOS-R.
For my purposes I prefer the EOS-R to the 5D-4. They both deliver equally high image quality but there are features about mirrorless that I very much prefer.
There's no such thing as the perfect camera and there are some minor aspects of each which I prefer over the other.
IF you decide to buy the EOS-R, get Canon's EF lens Adapter with Control Ring - It will potentially transform your way of shooting.
As always, which camera suits you best depends on the subjects you shoot.
I went 1dx2 to 5d4. What a mistake.
I'll have a 1dx2 again before the summer is out though.
Have you ever tried an EOS R with a 300mm 2.8 fitted? nightmare.
Surely, That lens is a nightmare to handhold on pretty much any body.
Mirrorless come in sizes from P&S size to bigger than DSLRsActually the 300mm mk2 is surprisingly easy to use hand held on a 5D4 with grip.
Sure it's heavy but it balances well unlike with a P&S (aka, mirrorless).
I didn't know that.Mirrorless come in sizes from P&S size to bigger than DSLRs
I didn't know that.
I was under the impression from the reviews that the EOS R was basically a mirrorless 6d2. There will no doubt shortly be a 5d4 equivalent.
If it had a similar sized shell and control lay out I would be a happy bunny.
I'll hopefully be looking at buying a complete system early next year, both bodies and lenses. As I've only got a snapshot bridge at the moment it'll be a clean slate for me. I was the owner of a couple of 5d3 bodies and a nice selection of white lenses but have lost touch with recent developments so enjoying all these comparison thread to help me catch up. As I say I've got 12 months for that so lots of time. The way it looks to me is long lenses and wildlife = DSLR, short lenses and landscape = ML. My genre is wildlife and landscape so maybe one of each then it's going to be interesting watching developments in the coming year.